Re: Woot! OOXML nogo!

2007-09-04 Thread Nigel Stewart
> 'All' they have to do is to get rid of the non-open  
> parts of the standard.  At that point, I think most of the objectors  
> stop shouting.

Simple criteria: toOOXML(toODT(document.doc))==document.doc

;-)

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Re: fc6 mythtv 0.20.2 binary location?

2007-09-04 Thread Frank DiPrete
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 11:23 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote:
> On Sep 3, 2007, at 21:20, Ben Scott wrote:
> 
> >   If you're going to be running third-party repositories, I strongly
> > recommend that you use something like "yum-protectbase" or
> > "yum-priorities" to keep that from happening.  Yes, I found this out
> > the hard way, too.  :)
> 
> Ditto.  It's really easy to setup too:
> 
>yum -y install yum-priorities
> 
> These settings seem to work for me:
> 
>[core]
>...
>priority=1
> 
>[updates]
>...
>priority=1
> 
>[extras]
>
>priority=2
> 
>[freshrpms]
>...
>priority=3
> 
>[dries]
>...
>priority=3
> 
> Doing a 'yum upgrade' often requires --noplugins though to finalize  
> all the dependencies.  Not quite sure why.
> 
> And atrpms stays disabled unless I turn it on manually.
> 
> -Bill

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Re: Woot! OOXML nogo!

2007-09-04 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Sep 4, 2007, at 14:22, Christopher Chisholm wrote:

> I guess MS will have to start adding support for ODT ;)

They still have the ECMA endorsement, just not ISO.  That might be  
'good enough' for some jurisdictions.

> Have they gone
> after OpenOffice yet?  It seems odd that they wouldn't try to sue them
> in to the ground.

Buying standards bodies was probably the cheaper rout.  Now they have  
the option of getting some of the 'No, with comments' votes to be  
'Yes''s, IIRC.  'All' they have to do is to get rid of the non-open  
parts of the standard.  At that point, I think most of the objectors  
stop shouting.

It's left as an exercise for the reader to determine whether  
Microsoft is more likely to embrace openness or order a battalion of  
its lawyers to descend on Billerica.

-Bill

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Re: Woot! OOXML nogo!

2007-09-04 Thread Christopher Chisholm
Shawn K. O'Shea wrote:
> Here's another page from the ConsortiumInfo Blog. It explains how the
> vote works and what happens next. There's still some opportunity
> between now and the 100% end of the standards process from MS to
> influence the ultimate outcome.
>
> http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070831151800414
>
> -Shawn
>
> On 9/4/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On 9/4/07, Shawn K. O'Shea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm having trouble getting that page to load. However I've also been
>>> following the OOXML saga at the  ConsortiumInfo.org Standards Blog.
>>> Here's the most recent post about the vote:
>>> http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070904053108577
>>>   
>>   Actually your link has more then mine did, but summarizes the exact
>> same thing  :-)
>>
>> --
>> -- Thomas
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I guess MS will have to start adding support for ODT ;)  Have they gone 
after OpenOffice yet?  It seems odd that they wouldn't try to sue them 
in to the ground.

-chris
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Re: Woot! OOXML nogo!

2007-09-04 Thread Shawn K. O'Shea
Here's another page from the ConsortiumInfo Blog. It explains how the
vote works and what happens next. There's still some opportunity
between now and the 100% end of the standards process from MS to
influence the ultimate outcome.

http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070831151800414

-Shawn

On 9/4/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/4/07, Shawn K. O'Shea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm having trouble getting that page to load. However I've also been
> > following the OOXML saga at the  ConsortiumInfo.org Standards Blog.
> > Here's the most recent post about the vote:
> > http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070904053108577
>
>   Actually your link has more then mine did, but summarizes the exact
> same thing  :-)
>
> --
> -- Thomas
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Re: Woot! OOXML nogo!

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas Charron
On 9/4/07, Shawn K. O'Shea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having trouble getting that page to load. However I've also been
> following the OOXML saga at the  ConsortiumInfo.org Standards Blog.
> Here's the most recent post about the vote:
> http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070904053108577

  Actually your link has more then mine did, but summarizes the exact
same thing  :-)

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Re: Woot! OOXML nogo!

2007-09-04 Thread Shawn K. O'Shea
I'm having trouble getting that page to load. However I've also been
following the OOXML saga at the  ConsortiumInfo.org Standards Blog.
Here's the most recent post about the vote:
http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20070904053108577

-Shawn

On 9/4/07, Thomas Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Iso says 'NO' to OOXML, in case people hadn't read the /. article yet.
>
> http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-18553/iso-records-a-no-vote-on-ooxml
>
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Re: fc6 mythtv 0.20.2 binary location?

2007-09-04 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Sep 3, 2007, at 21:20, Ben Scott wrote:

>   If you're going to be running third-party repositories, I strongly
> recommend that you use something like "yum-protectbase" or
> "yum-priorities" to keep that from happening.  Yes, I found this out
> the hard way, too.  :)

Ditto.  It's really easy to setup too:

   yum -y install yum-priorities

These settings seem to work for me:

   [core]
   ...
   priority=1

   [updates]
   ...
   priority=1

   [extras]
   
   priority=2

   [freshrpms]
   ...
   priority=3

   [dries]
   ...
   priority=3

Doing a 'yum upgrade' often requires --noplugins though to finalize  
all the dependencies.  Not quite sure why.

And atrpms stays disabled unless I turn it on manually.

-Bill

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Re: on hard drive failures (ignore last)

2007-09-04 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Sep 3, 2007, at 16:43, Bill McGonigle wrote:

>   barrier=1

fer'git it - this looks good on paper, and the 'right' people  
recommend it,  but when actually pushing large quantities of files,  
it's flakey:

   Sep  4 02:30:08 dhd kernel: JBD: barrier-based sync failed on md3  
- disabling barriers

(the backup kicks off at 2AM).  I'll go file a kernel bug.

Nothing to see here folks...

-Bill

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Woot! OOXML nogo!

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas Charron
Iso says 'NO' to OOXML, in case people hadn't read the /. article yet.

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-18553/iso-records-a-no-vote-on-ooxml

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Re: Success stories with MythTV and Schedule Direct?

2007-09-04 Thread Frank DiPrete
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 00:08 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:20:35 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: kenta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Me: Well I'm waiting for the pricing to get straigtened out before I sign 
> > up
> > Girlfriend: So how am I going to record 'House'?
> > Me: You can still program it like a VCR, just tell it to record that 
> > timeslot every week. 
> > Girlfriend: Well, when is it going to be fixed?
> > Me: I have to pay money to fix it!  You can just use it like a VCR
> > Girlfiend: 
> > 
> > Hmm, yeah so I'll be signing up soon. Time to upgrade :)
> 
> How do you plan to upgrade your girlfriend?  ...Or were you referring
> to the MythTV suite? ;)


girfriend 2.0 jokes abound ;)

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Re: Success stories with MythTV and Schedule Direct?

2007-09-04 Thread Frank DiPrete

On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 17:58 -0400, Dave Johnson wrote:
> Ted Roche writes:
> > Just checking in to find out if anyone has switched their MythTV setups
> > over to Schedules Direct [1]? ("Schedules Direct is a non-profit
> > organization that provides raw U.S./Canadian tv listing data to Free and
> > Open Source Applications. Those applications then use the data to
> > provide things like PVR functionality, search tools, and private channel
> > grids.")
> 
> Singed up friday, and then went through the painful process of
> upgrading 1 backend and 2 frontends from 0.19 to 0.20.2..
> 
> The prepackaged myth binaries required tons of upgrades as usual
> (Debian sarge to etch plus a few dozen unstable packages) breaking
> lots of minor things like squid, cups, nis, nfs (nfs sure breaks in
> suttle ways when rpc.statd just isn't started for some reason
> post-upgrade)
> 
> Schedules Direct seems to work just fine.  The upgrade of mythtv itself
> wasn't bad but now I have to get used to a different set of bugs...
> 
> Only 3 misterious backend crashes so far :(
> 

Is it possible to just compile the new schedule grabber (svn url found?)
without updating the whole thing? My 0.20 compiled from source is very
stable ...



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Re: Success stories with MythTV and Schedule Direct?

2007-09-04 Thread Travis Roy
You being cheap is not an excuse :)

On Sep 3, 2007, at 9:20 PM, kenta wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Ted Roche wrote:
>> Just checking in to find out if anyone has switched their MythTV  
>> setups
>> over to Schedules Direct [1]? ("Schedules Direct is a non-profit
>
> What's kind of funny is that my myth box has gone from loved to poo:
>
> Me: Well I'm waiting for the pricing to get straigtened out before  
> I sign
> up
> Girlfriend: So how am I going to record 'House'?
> Me: You can still program it like a VCR, just tell it to record that
> timeslot every week.
> Girlfriend: Well, when is it going to be fixed?
> Me: I have to pay money to fix it!  You can just use it like a VCR
> Girlfiend: 
>
> Hmm, yeah so I'll be signing up soon. Time to upgrade :)
>
> -Kenta
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