Re: melodrama at CentOS?

2009-07-31 Thread Jerry Feldman
Lance and the CentOS team have provided a very valuable service to the
entire Linux community throughout its existence by making an enterprise
(specifically RHEL) Linux available to those who need it, but can't
afford the pay for the full enterprise package. I would hope that Lance
does reconcile with his team.

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Re: OT: green vehicles (was: Power management)

2009-07-31 Thread Robert E. Anderson
I wanted to say nearly the same thing.  Only I know a few more details being 
Alan's neighbor. 

One that he has owned a number of bikes, and already knows how to ride.  

Two that my '05 DRZ400s gets around 60mpg AND would be fun on his backyard 
track.

Three, what's so bad about rain?  Think of it as a totally green bike and gear 
wash.  

I'm sure that you could buy a DR650 + a nice waterproof suit for a third the 
cost of a Prius.  And it's A LOT more fun!  Just remember to ride safe, 
because there is more risk involved when meeting Volvo drivers. ;)

On Wed July 29 2009 10:27:32 Tom Buskey wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Star nhs...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Alan Johnsona...@datdec.com wrote:
   On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Bill McGonigleb...@bfccomputing.com
 
  wrote:
   On 07/25/2009 08:44 AM, Alan Johnson wrote:
   But again, if I'm buying new?  Yes, Prius, Prius, Prius.
  
   Isn't the nickel mining an environmental and thermodynamic disaster?
  
   Even taking that into account,
   http://www.greenercars.org/highlights_greenest.htm lists the Prius as
   the second most green vehicle.
 
  If you really want to go green, get a motorcycle or scooter...  for
  decades they've been cheaper and better for the environment.  My
  mid-grade cruiser get's about 60 mpg and can be fixed in my drive-way.
   It's lighter than any hybrid car, is far far cheaper to manufacture,
  is lighter and has less foot-print on the road leading to
  exponentially less damage to concrete and asphalt surfaces (thus less
  need to re-pave), and considering people spend more time solo in any
  car it just makes sense.

 My dual purpose '99 DR350 gets about 50 mph.  My '82 CB900F gets 28 MPH,
 but I beat sportscars 0-60.  But you're right on all counts.  Some cities
 (London) exempt motorcycles from downtown driving fees.

 A scooter will give you a more upright seating with some wind protection 
 more storage.

 Okay, so it's not a good winter-choice, but hey!  we're talking about

  the environment here!!!

 As someone who has done ice racing and off road riding in 1 foot of snow in
 January, I'll have to agree.  If the roads are wet, it's ice and you don't
 want to be on the road.  Well, maybe in a sidecar.  I see one around
 Chelmsford alot.

 Riding a motorcycle instead of a car is like using Linux instead of
 Windows.  There are many similarities between the cultures.

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Re: OT: green vehicles (was: Power management)

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Scott
  All this talk about fuel efficiency has convinced me I should do
something to help fight global warming.  So I'm going to start leaving
my refrigerator door open for a few minutes every day.

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Re: OT: green vehicles (was: Power management)

2009-07-31 Thread John Abreau
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Ben Scottdragonh...@gmail.com wrote:
  All this talk about fuel efficiency has convinced me I should do
 something to help fight global warming.  So I'm going to start leaving
 my refrigerator door open for a few minutes every day.



I guess you're just a Thermodynamic Scofflaw!  :-)



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Re: OT: green vehicles

2009-07-31 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
John Abreau j...@blu.org writes:

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Ben Scottdragonh...@gmail.com wrote:
   All this talk about fuel efficiency has convinced me I should do
  something to help fight global warming.  So I'm going to start leaving
  my refrigerator door open for a few minutes every day.
 
 I guess you're just a Thermodynamic Scofflaw!  :-)

YOU TOO can be CONSERVED FROM ENTROPY! http://zapatopi.net/kelvin/

I'll figure out how this is related to Linux in a minute ;)

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Re: OT: green vehicles

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
 I'll figure out how this is related to Linux in a minute ;)

  It's okay, somebody put OT in the subject line.  That means you
can post about whatever you want.  It's the same principle that says
you can park wherever you want as long as you put your hazard flashers
on.

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Re: OT: green vehicles

2009-07-31 Thread Thomas Charron
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Joshua Judson
Rosenroz...@geekspace.com wrote:
 I'll figure out how this is related to Linux in a minute ;)

  Oh that's easy...

  Everybody now...

  'But can I run Linux on it?  It'd get even BETTER gas milage!'

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