Re: Nokia N900
On 05/12/2010 06:13 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: Cold tests were performed when both Pocket PC and GPS receiver were powered off (if GPS receiver has a separate power source, the GPS receiver was unplugged) for a period of between 8 to 12 hours requiring a cold start. Warm tests Warm tests were performed when both Pocket PC and GPS receiver were powered off (if GPS receiver has a separate power source, the GPS receiver was unplugged) for a period of 30 minutes Hot tests Hot tests were performed when both Pocket PC and GPS receiver were powered off (if GPS receiver has a separate power source, the GPS receiver was unplugged) for a period of 15 minutes You missed the colder-than-cold test: - Factory is where the receiver has no knowledge whatsoever of Almanac data in turn to locate the satellites and retrieve Ephemeris data, and for a full Almanac to be downloaded can take approx 12.5 mins, hence most companies suggest a factory start of 15 minutes. - So we already know the N810 has to be worse than it should be, due to multiple reports even on this list of 15 minute TsTFF. Also, I apparently cold test my dedicated GPS 1-2 times per day. It's always read to be a GPS before I'm ready to be a driver. Perhaps that says more about how long it takes me to start driving than about how fast my GPS is. That said, I'll try to test it. I'll assume the N810 needs a factory start by this point and then start doing some cold timings. Assuming it doesn't take so long that I have to terminate the test. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Nokia N900
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:19 AM, David Rysdam da...@rysdam.org wrote: That said, I'll try to test it. I'll assume the N810 needs a factory start by this point and then start doing some cold timings. Assuming it doesn't take so long that I have to terminate the test. Install the AGPS update. I think that without it you are doing a cold start every time. Adding that update made a world of difference. ...most of the time. Ty -- Tyson D Sawyer A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. - Daniel Webster ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Fwd: Purchase order # CII0675
Does anyone else get these sort of spams? I seem to get them all the time lately. They are obviously geared toward technology companies...I'm not quite sure how the scam is supposed to work. Its interesting to me that they provide local contact info. warren - Forwarded Message - From: Alexis Brooks inside-cables...@earthlink.net To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:35:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Purchase order # CII0675 Attention: Sales Department Here is a Request from Cable Inside Inc, Located Billerica, MA. Cable Inside, Inc is a wholesale distributor of Tel/Data Control Cable, Logistics, Mgmt. and also printer repairs. We are currently upgrading our desktop computers/printers and need to order from you computer supplies and parts so we would like you to provide a quote for the following items. Hewlett Packard Request: 1. Original HP C6578DN Tricolor Inkjet Cartridge 2. Original HP Q7583A Color Sphere magenta laser toner cartridge Memory Processor Request: 1. 2GB Kit 333MHZ DDR3 PC2700 (Any Brand). 2. BX80546PG3400E- 3.40E GHz 800 MHz 90 nm C0 1 MB 478 pin PPGA. Kindly Provide a PDF quote with pricing , availability either by email or fax and we would get back to you with our upon acceptance and approval of quotes. I will be faxing a hardcopy of Purchase order # CII0675 for shipping of the order. Payment Terms: Cashier's check on Delivery (COD) We look forward to doing business with you. Thanks. Alexis Brooks Cable Inside, Inc Address: 85 Rangeway Road, Floor #1 Billerica MA 01862- FEDERAL TAX ID #: 32-0006394 DUNS NUMBER: 04-664-9278 Email:cablesinside...@hotmail.com Fax Number: 206-426-1606 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam? (was: Purchase order # CII0675)
Actually I have seen this before...They are using a legit company and posing as employees of the organization. I saw one like this a while ago where they actually cloned a businesses website on a slightly different domain. Clever clever.. Or I am missing out on a huge opportunity... Warren Luebkeman Partner, COO 888.357.9195 www.resara.com - Original Message - From: Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net To: Warren Luebkeman war...@resara.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:28:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam? (was: Purchase order # CII0675) What fun! Let us know what you find out. And you're apparently not the first: http://radialmonster.com/blog/archives/2009/07/06/332/ ??? http://www.inside-cable.net/broadstimulusDEB1009.pdf http://www.inside-cable.net/index.htm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?
Warren Luebkeman war...@resara.com writes: Actually I have seen this before...They are using a legit company and posing as employees of the organization. I saw one like this a while ago where they actually cloned a businesses website on a slightly different domain. Clever clever.. Or I am missing out on a huge opportunity... Is this the one where they execute a man-in-the-middle attack on the economy? e.g.: they pose as a contractor and establish a contract with a client, while posing as the client to establish a contract with the contractor; the job gets done, and the money gets paid... just into the scammer's account rather than the contractor's. I guess you'd be seeing the `pose as the client' side of the scam, here; someone else is presumably seeing the other side, or at least would be if you responded affirmatively to the inquiry as a supplier. Actually..., you know all of those `cheap printer supplies!' spams? Maybe that's the other side of this, and you're actually seeing both sides run in parallel on the same pool of potential victims. - Original Message - From: Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net To: Warren Luebkeman war...@resara.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:28:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam? (was: Purchase order # CII0675) What fun! Let us know what you find out. And you're apparently not the first: http://radialmonster.com/blog/archives/2009/07/06/332/ ??? http://www.inside-cable.net/broadstimulusDEB1009.pdf http://www.inside-cable.net/index.htm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ -- Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?
Is this the one where they execute a man-in-the-middle attack on the economy? Hello, Kindest warm greetings and felicitations; you have not previously been knowing me but I was the personal assistant of Ben Bernanke and I need your help in extracting a large sum of money from the Broadband Stimulus Fund, an undertaking for which you will be generously remunerated ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?
On 05/13/2010 05:21 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: There's a variant of that attack. Sometimes the attacker changes the prices reported, pockets the difference, and passes along the rest. There's even a special term for that kind of attack: reseller I've also seen this as a ploy to use an advanced fee fraud. Scammer: I have [stuff I want to buy from | work I need done by] you. Victim: OK. I can do it. Pay me $PRICE Scammer: Here is ($PRICE+$3000). Please take what you need and wire me the difference. Victim then is expected to move quickly and wire the difference before the forged check has been determined to be fraudulent. I've seen this scam tried on me twice now. It starts out sounding legit and quickly becomes obvious. Especially if you ever get the cashier's check which is pretty clearly fake. Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Nokia N900
On Wed, 2010-05-12 at 13:46 -0400, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: Stephen Ryan step...@sryanfamily.info writes: My N810 takes 15 minutes+ to lock on to the GPS satellites, and usually takes a lot longer than that (a couple of hours, which is the same thing as useless IMO). I don't bother to use it because of that. On the few occasions I've managed to actually get a connection[...] But is that with or without having the almanac and ephemeris data loaded? The thing to note, here, is that GPS receivers that go longer between use-periods actually take longer to get a fix: the ephemeris (fine-grained) data is valid for something on the order of an hour, and takes ~30 seconds to download if you are able to maintain the downlink continuously. The almanac (course-grained) data is valid for ~months, and takes 12+ minutes to download in full. Straight from the factory, or after months of disuse, a GPS receiver will need to download both the almanac and ephemeris in full; that basically amounts to `falling back to a brute-force approach', and would easily account for `15+ minutes or even hours' of time to first fix (TTFF). Note that, because there's no *uplink*, the way that you resolve having missed any part of the transmission... is just to wait for it to repeat If you go for a while without using the thing, and then try to start it in a sufficiently far-off location (`it'd be great if my GPS worked now, I guess I might as well try it'), then that's probably even worse. What I do with my FreeRunner is that I have it configured to turn its GPS on whenever it's plugge into an external power-source, so it'll download updated data from the satellites all while I'm asleep (and both of us are recharging), and whenever I have it plugged-in in my car. I suspect that the car-based units have misleadingly quick TTFF because they're also able to use this trick. This is why I'm dubious of these `N810's GPS receiver is slow' claims-- because coupling them with `... so I never use it' is actually a vicious cycle. If that *is* actually the issue, then the fact that the N900 can be Internet-connected all the time, though, could lessen the other `N-series GPS' failings to the point where use-Hz increases and eliminates the `slow TTFF due to expired data' problem. Heck, if the `also being a phone' part means that it gets plugged into a wall-charger more frequently, that could also contribute to a solution--never mind being able to download assists from outside the scope of GPS per se. Assuming that this is your problem, of course Thank you, that was quite clear and helpful. The N900 might well be better, as most of the current development efforts appear to be directed towards it. It does explain why I've never gotten a satellite fix in less than 15 minutes, and I suppose might even mostly explain the multi-hour battery-ran-out-before-it-got-a-fix scenario (which has happened twice). Sadly, my use for a GPS is once-a-season, not once-a-day, so I guess it remains an idle curiosity. -- Stephen Ryan step...@sryanfamily.info ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
