Re: Font consistency (was: Simple but decent web composition software)

2013-06-10 Thread Tom Buskey
I used to work on Excel spreadsheets (version 4) on Macintosh system 7.  I
was able to bring them over to Windows (3.1) as long as the font names
matched.  I had Helvetica, Times and Courier.  I'm not sure Ariel or
Veranda existed yet.


On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.comwrote:

 This point about being able to find fonts that are both close to what I
 use and likely to be on Windows or Apple a really good one. Sometimes
 it's really hard to do that, though..., except, here's a really nice
 tool for the task--that actually organises fonts by *what they look like*
 (so similar-*looking* fonts are clustered together, rather than
  similarly-*named* fonts being grouped together as in most font-selectors):

 FontClustr - Automated Hierarchical Clustering of Fonts
  Based on Their Appearance

 http://tinylittlelife.org/?p=233


 It's written in Python, and the code is available on Github:

 http://tinylittlelife.org/?page_id=255


 James A. Kuzdrall gnh...@intrel.com writes:
 
  On Sunday 09 June 2013 11:03:33 Jerry Feldman wrote:
   I work for IBM, and use Symphony at work, but Symphony is based on
   OpenOffice. I have nothing against using Symphony, OpenOffice, or
   LibreOffice but my posts in HTML just end up looking terrible when I
   post them to Boston User Groups. They look OK in Symphony/OpenOffice or
   LibreOffice writer.
 
  Could it be the fault of the fonts that the HTML browser substitutes
 for
  the ones you use in LibreOffice?  I am using Quanta + 3.4 (only
 because it
  came with SuSE 9.3 and I am not a very good explorer - actually,
  interactively seeing what is produced is very handy).  I make sure the
  alternate font list includes those that are both close to what I use and
  likely to be on Windows or Apple.

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Fwd: Presention software?

2013-06-10 Thread Bill Freeman
Appoligies to Josh.  I think the default reply too has changed for gmail,
but I'm probably just fumble fingered.

Bill

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From: Bill Freeman ke1g...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Presention software?
To: Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com


Just for completeness, I've done some presentations using PDFs made using
the Beamer package for LaTeX.  Sample here:
http://ke1g.org/media/uploads/files/egg_hunt.pdf .

Unless you know TeX/LaTeX (or want desperately to learn it), it is probably
not worth your time.  If you do want to try it, I could find you the source
for that presentation of another as reference.

Bill


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.comwrote:

 Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com writes:
 
  I should have mentioned up front that I'd already actually
  looked at S5 and decided against it. It looks like a good tool
  for doing what it does, but what it does isn't what I want
  (as far as I can tell from the examples). The same goes
  for impress.js.

 ... and reveal.js, which was actually the one I was thinking of
 when I wrote impress.js :)

 (both of them actually seem to do what they do well enough, actually;
  I'm just looking for something that does something else :))


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  I don't want my in-person presentation to revolve around me
  *reading the content of the slides* to my audience; I've always
  hated watching other peoples presentations that are done like
  that--I find myself asking `why are both of us wasting our time
  with me sitting here waiting for you to finish reading the slides
  to me when I could just read them myself?'. It always seems
  like we could save an hour (multiplied by the number of people
  at those presentation!) if we all just read the slides ourselves
  and then convened afterward for *just the QA* portion
 
  I want to put together something more like, I guess, this
  `remedies for frustration' presentation by Martin Pool:
 
 
 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1awg1CHM1w128iOBp_JOxE2DgHfywBeyjDe2bkx1vfVQ/edit?pli=1#slide=id.p
 
  ... or a presentation that Larry Lessig gave but that I can't
  find right now.
 
  The slides are just illustrations for text/speech; rather than
  the text/speech being `narration for the slides'.
 
  But:
 
  * when I give the talk in person, I need notes (outside
of the slides) to guide me through the topics.
I might as well store those *in the presentation*
somehow, even though they'll be *outside the slides*.
 
  * When I post it on my website, I'll the `notes'
or narration will *need* to be included in the
packaged presentation, otherwise the slides won't
make any sense.
 
  Ideally, because of the `slides as illustrations for the speech
  vs. speech as narration for the slides' issue, I'd like to have
  slide-sequences subordinate to notes rather than the other way
  around--because there are some things where I'd really prefer
  to be able to flip through several slides for a single paragraph
  (or even sentence) of speech.
 
  (for example, 3 slides for Powerpoint is Hurting. Communication.)
 
  It looks like some of the Emacs org-mode-based options might
  allow for that (not sure yet); is there *anything* [else?]
  that will actually give me what I want? If not, how close
  can I get?
 
  Alternately: I heard someone say, a while back, that `Tufte
  should realise that, good or bad, Powerpoint has one--so
  it's time to stop hating and start *co-opting*'. But how?
 
 
  Greg Rundlett (freephile) g...@freephile.com writes:
  
   +1 Eric Meyer's s5 is good.
  
   My notes on the subject
   https://freephile.org/wiki/index.php/Presentation
  
   Greg Rundlett

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Re: Presention software?

2013-06-10 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Bill Freeman ke1g...@gmail.com writes:

 Just for completeness, I've done some presentations using PDFs made using the
 Beamer package for LaTeX.  Sample here: http://ke1g.org/media/uploads/files/
 egg_hunt.pdf .

 Unless you know TeX/LaTeX (or want desperately to learn it), it is probably
 not worth your time.  If you do want to try it, I could find you the source
 for that presentation of another as reference.

I took a look at Beamer, actually--not because of or in spite of the TeX
aspect (I know enough TeX to be able to write texinfo, and going further
in probably wouldn't be a big deal), but because I saw that Emacs' org-mode
can be used to make slides via Beamer:

http://orgmode.org/worg/exporters/beamer/tutorial.html


I believe I first noticed that link (among others) in Sacha Chua's
`How to present using Org-mode in Emacs' article:


http://sachachua.com/blog/2013/04/how-to-present-using-org-mode-in-emacs/


 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com
 wrote:

 Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com writes:
 
  I should have mentioned up front that I'd already actually
  looked at S5 and decided against it. It looks like a good tool
  for doing what it does, but what it does isn't what I want
  (as far as I can tell from the examples). The same goes
  for impress.js.

 ... and reveal.js, which was actually the one I was thinking of
 when I wrote impress.js :)

 (both of them actually seem to do what they do well enough, actually;
  I'm just looking for something that does something else :))

 --
 Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr.

  I don't want my in-person presentation to revolve around me
  *reading the content of the slides* to my audience; I've always
  hated watching other peoples presentations that are done like
  that--I find myself asking `why are both of us wasting our time
  with me sitting here waiting for you to finish reading the slides
  to me when I could just read them myself?'. It always seems
  like we could save an hour (multiplied by the number of people
  at those presentation!) if we all just read the slides ourselves
  and then convened afterward for *just the QA* portion
 
  I want to put together something more like, I guess, this
  `remedies for frustration' presentation by Martin Pool:
 
      https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/
 1awg1CHM1w128iOBp_JOxE2DgHfywBeyjDe2bkx1vfVQ/edit?pli=1#slide=id.p
 
  ... or a presentation that Larry Lessig gave but that I can't
  find right now.
 
  The slides are just illustrations for text/speech; rather than
  the text/speech being `narration for the slides'.
 
  But:
 
      * when I give the talk in person, I need notes (outside
        of the slides) to guide me through the topics.
        I might as well store those *in the presentation*
        somehow, even though they'll be *outside the slides*.
 
      * When I post it on my website, I'll the `notes'
        or narration will *need* to be included in the
        packaged presentation, otherwise the slides won't
        make any sense.
 
  Ideally, because of the `slides as illustrations for the speech
  vs. speech as narration for the slides' issue, I'd like to have
  slide-sequences subordinate to notes rather than the other way
  around--because there are some things where I'd really prefer
  to be able to flip through several slides for a single paragraph
  (or even sentence) of speech.
 
  (for example, 3 slides for Powerpoint is Hurting. Communication.)
 
  It looks like some of the Emacs org-mode-based options might
  allow for that (not sure yet); is there *anything* [else?]
  that will actually give me what I want? If not, how close
  can I get?
 
  Alternately: I heard someone say, a while back, that `Tufte
  should realise that, good or bad, Powerpoint has one--so
  it's time to stop hating and start *co-opting*'. But how?
 
 
  Greg Rundlett (freephile) g...@freephile.com writes:
  
   +1 Eric Meyer's s5 is good.
  
   My notes on the subject
   https://freephile.org/wiki/index.php/Presentation
  
   Greg Rundlett

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