DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...

2013-11-18 Thread Tyson Sawyer
What is the "open source action" that she refers to and can be found
in the description of the segment?  Is the meaning of "open source"
being changed by some groups?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zMOzxdniwM

Ty

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Re: DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...

2013-11-18 Thread David Rysdam
Tyson Sawyer  writes:
> What is the "open source action" that she refers to and can be found
> in the description of the segment?  Is the meaning of "open source"
> being changed by some groups?

She might be garbling a little. In the intelligence community, "open
source" means "we didn't have Mata Hari anything, we found it from
websites, books, newspapers", etc. Open sources.

So she could be trying to say: "We know from open sources that at least
one group is trying to DoS us" meaning something like "There is a group
out there with the stated, public mission to try to DoS us" or "A recent
newspaper investigation found a hacking group that blah blah blah" etc.
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Re: DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...

2013-11-18 Thread Tyson Sawyer
Thanks!  ...I was hoping it was something like that.

Ty


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:39 PM, David Rysdam  wrote:
> Tyson Sawyer  writes:
>> What is the "open source action" that she refers to and can be found
>> in the description of the segment?  Is the meaning of "open source"
>> being changed by some groups?
>
> She might be garbling a little. In the intelligence community, "open
> source" means "we didn't have Mata Hari anything, we found it from
> websites, books, newspapers", etc. Open sources.
>
> So she could be trying to say: "We know from open sources that at least
> one group is trying to DoS us" meaning something like "There is a group
> out there with the stated, public mission to try to DoS us" or "A recent
> newspaper investigation found a hacking group that blah blah blah" etc.



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Re: DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...

2013-11-18 Thread Mark Komarinski

On 11/18/2013 12:39 PM, David Rysdam wrote:
> Tyson Sawyer  writes:
>> What is the "open source action" that she refers to and can be found
>> in the description of the segment?  Is the meaning of "open source"
>> being changed by some groups?
> She might be garbling a little. In the intelligence community, "open
> source" means "we didn't have Mata Hari anything, we found it from
> websites, books, newspapers", etc. Open sources.
>
> So she could be trying to say: "We know from open sources that at least
> one group is trying to DoS us" meaning something like "There is a group
> out there with the stated, public mission to try to DoS us" or "A recent
> newspaper investigation found a hacking group that blah blah blah" etc.
>

Yeah, that's my take.  Though it wouldn't surprise me if there was 
(D)DoS software that's GPL-licensed.
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Re: DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...

2013-11-18 Thread Bill Ricker
David is correct, "open sources" has been a concept in the intel community
in contrast to "covert sources", "classified sources"  for longer than
we've had computers. It originally meant "reading the foreign newspapers".

Among its magical properties of openly-sourced intel is that "we don't have
to hide that/how we know this (anymore)".

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Re: DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...

2013-11-18 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 01:30:46PM -0500, Mark Komarinski wrote:
> Though it wouldn't surprise me if there was (D)DoS software that's
> GPL-licensed.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/loic/

Fun!

-b

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Re: DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...

2013-11-18 Thread Tyson Sawyer
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Bill Ricker  wrote:
> David is correct, "open sources" has been a concept in the intel community

...but "open sources" means something very different to me than "(an)
open source action".  I can see how I interpret it from a different
context.

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Re: DoS attacks on Healthcare.gov...

2013-11-18 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
David Rysdam  writes:
>
> Tyson Sawyer  writes:
> > What is the "open source action" that she refers to and can be found
> > in the description of the segment?  Is the meaning of "open source"
> > being changed by some groups?
>
> She might be garbling a little. In the intelligence community, "open
> source" means "we didn't have Mata Hari anything, we found it from
> websites, books, newspapers", etc. Open sources.

cf. these fine articles:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=222


http://slashdot.org/story/05/11/21/1140210/open-source-media-vs-open-source-media-inc

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