Re: Home server hardware for Ubuntu 14.04?
My intro to Openstack was someone in sales from Canonical showing how he used HP microservers and other parts from eBay to teach himself Openstack. Juju was just being introduced and at the time, the minimal recommended stack was 12 nodes. He had the whole setup in his office. 12 HP Microservers running Intel Atom (they have an AMD version too) maxed out to 4 GB RAM each. I think some will go to 8 GB. He added $30 gigabit PCIe x1 card. I think there is a 2 port card out there. 1 gigabit ethernet switch, 1 APC PDU for when IPMI wedges on the HPs. Quiet enough to be in his office. Low power enough to run from the wall outlets. Useful enough that people squawked when he took it down. I've been using headless VirtualBox VMs to run my servers in. It means as long as VirtualBox runs on my host, I don't need to reinstall my servers. My host does VirtualBox and fileserving. Everything else is a VM, including Plex (my media server). I'm planning on moving my VM server to an Openstack cloud. KVM feels like it has less overhead than VirtualBox and like you, I'm doing openstack at work also. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Henry Gessau henry.ges...@acm.org wrote: Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: Henry Gessau henry.ges...@acm.org writes: I want to set up a server at home for a bunch of projects and experiments. I need to use Ubuntu 14.04 server for the OS, and an Intel (not AMD) CPU. Canonical's certified list[1] is not very helpful. I assume 14.04 will install just fine on many systems, but I would prefer to have confirmation from someone/somewhere before buying something. Requirements: - Reasonably quiet. It's going to reside near me in my home office. - Intel VT-x support. - Four cores. More would be nice. - Must support at least 32GB RAM. - Preferably under $800 for chassis + PS + CPU. I assume it would need to be some Core i3/i5 variant. I don't need raw speed, so i7 is probably overkill, and I would prefer to keep the power low. I admit I don't understand the Xeon family at all. I was thinking something along the lines of an HP ProLiant MicroServer, or a Lenovo ThinkServer TS140? But I would be happy to assemble from parts. If you need more than 32 GB RAM, it doesn't look like you want either of those machines: the Levno TS140 appears to max out at 32 GB RAM, and the HP Proliant MicroServers appear to max out at 16 GB. Have you looked at ZaReason http://www.zareason.com/, or maybe System76 http://www.system76.com/? I have experience with one of these: http://zareason.com/shop/Breeze-Server-5880s.html It's very quiet and seems to meet _almost_ all of your requirements... except for the = 32 GB RAM req, which actually seems to be a little exotic for this class of machines. Yeah, after much browsing I have come to the conclusion that most small home servers seem to max out at 16GB. The price class seems to be the factor. I have upgraded both my work laptop and my home desktop to 32GB, and I ain't going back. :) I work and play with OpenStack, where I spin up a bunch of VMs and then deploy them as a cloud, which means further VMs get spun up inside those VMs. It's turtles all the way down and it eats RAM for lunch. (I've also had positive experience with a number of other models from ZaReason, though not anything that meets your requirements) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Home server hardware for Ubuntu 14.04?
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: My intro to Openstack was someone in sales from Canonical showing how he used HP microservers and other parts from eBay to teach himself Openstack. Juju was just being introduced and at the time, the minimal recommended stack was 12 nodes. He had the whole setup in his office. Sounds like Federico ... he's Product Management (which isn't quite Sales) where he handles the non-sexy server features [same as he did at SUSE before], and he's also the upstream maintainer for man(1). He's on the BLU mailing-list, not sure if he listens here too. He did OpenStack from Scratch: Part ii at OSCON this year, previewed on BLU video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPHquM1PEnUfeature=youtu.be I don't see a video of part i, which is the preso you describe. -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Home server hardware for Ubuntu 14.04?
You can deploy openstack to a single machine in a number of ways. I think this one actually makes an LXC for each instance, I just found this http://astokes.org/ubuntu-openstack-installer/ Marco's way on the other hand uses --deploy-to N to direct juju to install the charm to a specific machine. http://marcoceppi.com/2014/06/deploying-openstack-with-just-two-machines/ You can also see from his video that he's a BSG fan :) What I like to do is create a MAAS of VMs and deploy to that. You can configure IPMI power on/off behavior by configuring the virsh interface. When I develop I do something like this for RAD and machine management. Currently when you remove a service from juju it leaves that machine behind and provisions a new one should you deploy again, this can lead to a ummm. surprising AWS bill. So for example when I was customizing jenkins for work here I did this. ppetraki@:jenkins-ci$ cat Makefile .PHONY: deploy clean: rm -rf charms/trusty install: clean mkdir -p charms/trusty cp -a jenkins charms/trusty/jenkins deploy: install juju destroy-environment $(shell juju env) --force -y juju bootstrap --constraints mem=4G juju deploy --to 0 local:jenkins --config=jenkins.yaml \ --repository=charms/ juju expose jenkins Which deploys jenkins to the bootstrap node, which is always node zero. I make some changes locally, and the makefile pushes the latest version to my local repo, zaps the old environment, which destroys everything, and start a fresh deployment. Hack, rinse, and repeat. I'm a big advocate of sizing stuff in the cloud so for example you could see how your media server performs on various sized AWS machines and then use that as a guide to how much capacity you really need on your metal. Peter On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: My intro to Openstack was someone in sales from Canonical showing how he used HP microservers and other parts from eBay to teach himself Openstack. Juju was just being introduced and at the time, the minimal recommended stack was 12 nodes. He had the whole setup in his office. 12 HP Microservers running Intel Atom (they have an AMD version too) maxed out to 4 GB RAM each. I think some will go to 8 GB. He added $30 gigabit PCIe x1 card. I think there is a 2 port card out there. 1 gigabit ethernet switch, 1 APC PDU for when IPMI wedges on the HPs. Quiet enough to be in his office. Low power enough to run from the wall outlets. Useful enough that people squawked when he took it down. I've been using headless VirtualBox VMs to run my servers in. It means as long as VirtualBox runs on my host, I don't need to reinstall my servers. My host does VirtualBox and fileserving. Everything else is a VM, including Plex (my media server). I'm planning on moving my VM server to an Openstack cloud. KVM feels like it has less overhead than VirtualBox and like you, I'm doing openstack at work also. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Henry Gessau henry.ges...@acm.org wrote: Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: Henry Gessau henry.ges...@acm.org writes: I want to set up a server at home for a bunch of projects and experiments. I need to use Ubuntu 14.04 server for the OS, and an Intel (not AMD) CPU. Canonical's certified list[1] is not very helpful. I assume 14.04 will install just fine on many systems, but I would prefer to have confirmation from someone/somewhere before buying something. Requirements: - Reasonably quiet. It's going to reside near me in my home office. - Intel VT-x support. - Four cores. More would be nice. - Must support at least 32GB RAM. - Preferably under $800 for chassis + PS + CPU. I assume it would need to be some Core i3/i5 variant. I don't need raw speed, so i7 is probably overkill, and I would prefer to keep the power low. I admit I don't understand the Xeon family at all. I was thinking something along the lines of an HP ProLiant MicroServer, or a Lenovo ThinkServer TS140? But I would be happy to assemble from parts. If you need more than 32 GB RAM, it doesn't look like you want either of those machines: the Levno TS140 appears to max out at 32 GB RAM, and the HP Proliant MicroServers appear to max out at 16 GB. Have you looked at ZaReason http://www.zareason.com/, or maybe System76 http://www.system76.com/? I have experience with one of these: http://zareason.com/shop/Breeze-Server-5880s.html It's very quiet and seems to meet _almost_ all of your requirements... except for the = 32 GB RAM req, which actually seems to be a little exotic for this class of machines. Yeah, after much browsing I have come to the conclusion that most small home servers seem to max out at 16GB. The price class seems to be the factor. I have upgraded both my work laptop and my home desktop to 32GB, and I ain't going back. :) I work and play with OpenStack, where I spin up a bunch of VMs and
Re: Home server hardware for Ubuntu 14.04?
Yes, it was Federico. I saw the warmup he did at BLU. It was very good IMO. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: My intro to Openstack was someone in sales from Canonical showing how he used HP microservers and other parts from eBay to teach himself Openstack. Juju was just being introduced and at the time, the minimal recommended stack was 12 nodes. He had the whole setup in his office. Sounds like Federico ... he's Product Management (which isn't quite Sales) where he handles the non-sexy server features [same as he did at SUSE before], and he's also the upstream maintainer for man(1). He's on the BLU mailing-list, not sure if he listens here too. He did OpenStack from Scratch: Part ii at OSCON this year, previewed on BLU video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPHquM1PEnUfeature=youtu.be I don't see a video of part i, which is the preso you describe. -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Home server hardware for Ubuntu 14.04?
I've been using packstack on CentOS. You can deploy on just one machine and then add compute nodes easily. If you're doing more then a few or want to do HA or multiple controller nodes or customize, it's not the right way. But it works well for small setups like some of us have at home. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Peter Petrakis peter.petra...@gmail.com wrote: You can deploy openstack to a single machine in a number of ways. I think this one actually makes an LXC for each instance, I just found this http://astokes.org/ubuntu-openstack-installer/ Marco's way on the other hand uses --deploy-to N to direct juju to install the charm to a specific machine. http://marcoceppi.com/2014/06/deploying-openstack-with-just-two-machines/ You can also see from his video that he's a BSG fan :) What I like to do is create a MAAS of VMs and deploy to that. You can configure IPMI power on/off behavior by configuring the virsh interface. When I develop I do something like this for RAD and machine management. Currently when you remove a service from juju it leaves that machine behind and provisions a new one should you deploy again, this can lead to a ummm. surprising AWS bill. So for example when I was customizing jenkins for work here I did this. ppetraki@:jenkins-ci$ cat Makefile .PHONY: deploy clean: rm -rf charms/trusty install: clean mkdir -p charms/trusty cp -a jenkins charms/trusty/jenkins deploy: install juju destroy-environment $(shell juju env) --force -y juju bootstrap --constraints mem=4G juju deploy --to 0 local:jenkins --config=jenkins.yaml \ --repository=charms/ juju expose jenkins Which deploys jenkins to the bootstrap node, which is always node zero. I make some changes locally, and the makefile pushes the latest version to my local repo, zaps the old environment, which destroys everything, and start a fresh deployment. Hack, rinse, and repeat. I'm a big advocate of sizing stuff in the cloud so for example you could see how your media server performs on various sized AWS machines and then use that as a guide to how much capacity you really need on your metal. Peter On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Tom Buskey t...@buskey.name wrote: My intro to Openstack was someone in sales from Canonical showing how he used HP microservers and other parts from eBay to teach himself Openstack. Juju was just being introduced and at the time, the minimal recommended stack was 12 nodes. He had the whole setup in his office. 12 HP Microservers running Intel Atom (they have an AMD version too) maxed out to 4 GB RAM each. I think some will go to 8 GB. He added $30 gigabit PCIe x1 card. I think there is a 2 port card out there. 1 gigabit ethernet switch, 1 APC PDU for when IPMI wedges on the HPs. Quiet enough to be in his office. Low power enough to run from the wall outlets. Useful enough that people squawked when he took it down. I've been using headless VirtualBox VMs to run my servers in. It means as long as VirtualBox runs on my host, I don't need to reinstall my servers. My host does VirtualBox and fileserving. Everything else is a VM, including Plex (my media server). I'm planning on moving my VM server to an Openstack cloud. KVM feels like it has less overhead than VirtualBox and like you, I'm doing openstack at work also. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Henry Gessau henry.ges...@acm.org wrote: Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: Henry Gessau henry.ges...@acm.org writes: I want to set up a server at home for a bunch of projects and experiments. I need to use Ubuntu 14.04 server for the OS, and an Intel (not AMD) CPU. Canonical's certified list[1] is not very helpful. I assume 14.04 will install just fine on many systems, but I would prefer to have confirmation from someone/somewhere before buying something. Requirements: - Reasonably quiet. It's going to reside near me in my home office. - Intel VT-x support. - Four cores. More would be nice. - Must support at least 32GB RAM. - Preferably under $800 for chassis + PS + CPU. I assume it would need to be some Core i3/i5 variant. I don't need raw speed, so i7 is probably overkill, and I would prefer to keep the power low. I admit I don't understand the Xeon family at all. I was thinking something along the lines of an HP ProLiant MicroServer, or a Lenovo ThinkServer TS140? But I would be happy to assemble from parts. If you need more than 32 GB RAM, it doesn't look like you want either of those machines: the Levno TS140 appears to max out at 32 GB RAM, and the HP Proliant MicroServers appear to max out at 16 GB. Have you looked at ZaReason http://www.zareason.com/, or maybe System76 http://www.system76.com/? I have experience with one of these: http://zareason.com/shop/Breeze-Server-5880s.html It's very quiet and seems to meet _almost_ all of your requirements... except
