Re: "investigator hackers"?

2017-02-15 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen 
On 02/15/2017 02:41 PM, Bill Ricker wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 9:30 AM, David Rysdam  wrote:
>>
>> Our common friend asked me if anything like an "investigator hacker"
>> existed that could look into these things, trace it back, send take-down
>> requests, etc.
> 
> Because we didn't know where to find one, we considered starting such
> a firm ... a friend investigated what it would take to get licensed as
> such.
> 
> According to my recollection of their research, the easiest path to
> licensing as a Private Detective/Investigator in Mass was to work for
> one for N years, so we were considering recruiting a licensed PI as
> managing director. ( IDK what NH rules are. )
>
> I think it's SANS INST that has an Ethical Hacker certification
> that would be useful documentation in such an enterprise.

EC-Council "Certified Ethical Hacker":

https://www.eccouncil.org/programs/certified-ethical-hacker-ceh/

I found out about that because, IIRC, they used to use a `covert channel'
tool that I maintain

The course seems to mostly be a course on penetration-testing (in furtherance of
the "hacker/cracker" confusion), which is probably not the sort of work
that you'd actually want your `Magnum PH' doing.

Didn't work out well for this guy, anyway:

"Investigator Admits Guilt in Hiring of a Hacker"


https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/07/business/dealbook/a-guilty-plea-in-a-hacker-for-hire-case.html

(and there's that "hacker/cracker" confusion again...)

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Re: "investigator hackers"?

2017-02-15 Thread Bill Ricker 
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 9:30 AM, David Rysdam  wrote:
>
> Our common friend asked me if anything like an "investigator hacker"
> existed that could look into these things, trace it back, send take-down
> requests, etc.

Because we didn't know where to find one, we considered starting such
a firm ... a friend investigated what it would take to get licensed as
such.

According to my recollection of their research, the easiest path to
licensing as a Private Detective/Investigator in Mass was to work for
one for N years, so we were considering recruiting a licensed PI as
managing director. ( IDK what NH rules are. )  I think it's SANS INST
that has an Ethical Hacker certification that would be useful
documentation in such an enterprise.

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Re: "investigator hackers"?

2017-02-15 Thread Tom Buskey 
There are services that create entries that you prefer to come up that
crowd out others.

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2013/05/29/187080236/Online-Reputation

An example in the news:
 
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160816/07482735256/former-uc-davis-chancellor-katehi-way-more-obsessed-with-her-online-reputation-than-initially-thought.shtml


I imagine there are other names for this type of thing.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 9:30 AM, David Rysdam  wrote:

> A friend-of-a-friend is having trouble online. Someone is posting fake
> reports on various sites, maybe stalking. I don't know the details, but
> what I heard didn't sound actionable-by-the-police.
>
> Our common friend asked me if anything like an "investigator hacker"
> existed that could look into these things, trace it back, send take-down
> requests, etc.
>
> I don't particularly want to get involved myself, but I did say it
> sounded like a pretty lucrative (although possibly not that effective)
> business plan. Has anyone else heard of something like this?
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"investigator hackers"?

2017-02-15 Thread David Rysdam 
A friend-of-a-friend is having trouble online. Someone is posting fake
reports on various sites, maybe stalking. I don't know the details, but
what I heard didn't sound actionable-by-the-police.

Our common friend asked me if anything like an "investigator hacker"
existed that could look into these things, trace it back, send take-down
requests, etc.

I don't particularly want to get involved myself, but I did say it
sounded like a pretty lucrative (although possibly not that effective)
business plan. Has anyone else heard of something like this?
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