Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-21 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 06:23:30PM -0400, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
 
 Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Well that's what I was really looking for, or something MySQL backed so they
  can make an ODBC call to print out holiday labels.  Strangely enough,
  I think we'd find more use for that than easily looking up e-mail
  addresses.
 
   The Scene:  December in the Komarinski Household.
   
   Family member #1:  I'm trying to lookup our cousin's Christmas
   wishlist, but I'm having some trouble with the ODBC bindings for
   Ruby.  Specifically, when I execute SELECT * FROM wishlist
   WHERE gift IS NULL; I get inconsistant results.
 
Naw.  We already have that and it works really well.

http://phpgiftreg.sourceforge.net/

 If your family can't even spell ODBC, then you're probably all the
 last remaining vestages of a family that made its fortune selling
 buggy-whips.  (-:

We're a pretty large family, so my wife and I send out 150-200 cards a year.
Doing a mail merge for the labels would be a lot easier.  As it turns out,
at least two of my relatives are sharing copies of an access database
for doing this, so centralizing it would be a good thing.

May as well start on this now, so I have 7 months to get it all figured out.

-Mark


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-21 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Apr 21, 2005, at 09:29, Mark Komarinski wrote:
We're a pretty large family, so my wife and I send out 150-200 cards a 
year.
Doing a mail merge for the labels would be a lot easier.
Now all we need is a program to generate randomly-variant handwriting 
output on an inkjet printer so it doesn't actually look like we're 
geeks who think hand addressing Christmas cards is a waste of time. 
(non-geeks consider it a sign that you care)

-Bill
-
Bill McGonigle, Owner   Work: 603.448.4440
BFC Computing, LLC  Home: 603.448.1668
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Mobile: 603.252.2606
http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833
AIM: wpmcgonigleSkype: bill_mcgonigle
For fastest support contact, please follow:
http://bfccomputing.com/support_contact.html
___
gnhlug-discuss mailing list
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-21 Thread Tom Buskey
On 4/21/05, Bill Sconce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:29:21 -0400
 Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  How about a Yahoo account w/ a shared passwd?
  This information isn't available for search.
 
 But information entrusted to Yahoo is available for _sale_.
 (Wouldn't Mark's brother appreciate that even less?)

I don't think so:  http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/ab/details.html

 Information Collection and Use Practices

* In addition to registration information, Yahoo! allows you to
enter address and contact information into Yahoo! Address Book that is
stored on your behalf.
* Yahoo! does not use any information stored in your Yahoo!
Address Book for any marketing or commercial purpose.


Now, there may be/are other issues with using Yahoo! for this.

Yahoo! is a quick  dirty solution of course.  Solve 90% of the
problem with 10% of the work :-)
___
gnhlug-discuss mailing list
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-21 Thread Kevin D. Clark

Tom Buskey writes:

 I don't think so:  http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/ab/details.html

Like nearly every other privacy policy on the web, such policies are
SUBJECT TO REVISION AT ANY TIME:

: This page describes current Yahoo! practices with respect to this
: particular service. This information may change as Yahoo! revises this
: service by adding or removing features or using different service
: providers.

and at http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/ it says 

: Changes to this Privacy Policy
: 
: * Yahoo! may update this policy. We will notify you about
: significant changes in the way we treat personal information by
: sending a notice to the primary email address specified in your Yahoo!
: account or by placing a prominent notice on our site.  

Some people will be confortable with this; others will not.

--kevin
-- 
GnuPG ID: B280F24E And the madness of the crowd
alumni.unh.edu!kdc Is an epileptic fit
   -- Tom Waits
___
gnhlug-discuss mailing list
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-21 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Apr 21, 2005, at 10:56, Tom Buskey wrote:
* Yahoo! does not use any information stored in your Yahoo!
Address Book for any marketing or commercial purpose.
They could have said, Yahoo! does not share any information stored in 
your Yahoo! Address Book with any third party, but they didn't.

-Bill
-
Bill McGonigle, Owner   Work: 603.448.4440
BFC Computing, LLC  Home: 603.448.1668
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Mobile: 603.252.2606
http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833
AIM: wpmcgonigleSkype: bill_mcgonigle
For fastest support contact, please follow:
http://bfccomputing.com/support_contact.html
___
gnhlug-discuss mailing list
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-21 Thread Paul Lussier
Bill Sconce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 But information entrusted to Yahoo is available for _sale_.
 (Wouldn't Mark's brother appreciate that even less?)

Yeah, but if Mark can a good price for his brother, who are we to argue?
-- 

Seeya,
Paul
___
gnhlug-discuss mailing list
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-21 Thread Paul Lussier
Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Now all we need is a program to generate randomly-variant handwriting
 output on an inkjet printer so it doesn't actually look like we're
 geeks who think hand addressing Christmas cards is a waste of
 time. (non-geeks consider it a sign that you care)

So, you're saying we're not going to use this to send *each other*
Christmas cards, I guess.  Because, well, we *are* geeks, and we would
look at hand addressed envelopes as a lack of automation ;)
-- 

Seeya,
Paul
___
gnhlug-discuss mailing list
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss


Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-20 Thread Mark Komarinski
I'm looking for some sort of contact management so that family members can
easily look up information (birthdates, phone numbers, mailing address, etc.).

Being web-based and passing the Mom test would both be plusses, along with
some sort of access control so it doesn't get caught by google and find my
brother's home address there.  He wouldn't appreciate it.

What are you using?

-Mark


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-20 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:47 -0400, Mark Komarinski wrote:
 along with
 some sort of access control so it doesn't get caught by google and find my
 brother's home address there.  He wouldn't appreciate it.

Wouldn't a simple robots.txt file prevent this kind of thing?

-- 
Give a man a match, and you keep him warm for an evening.
Light him on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.

Cole Tuininga
Lead Developer
Code Energy, Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP Key ID: 0x43E5755D


___
gnhlug-discuss mailing list
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-20 Thread Tom Buskey
How about a Yahoo account w/ a shared passwd?
This information isn't available for search.
Of course you'd have an issue with controlling edits/etc..

Yahoo can also be sync'd with a Palm (on a PC).



On 4/20/05, Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking for some sort of contact management so that family members can
 easily look up information (birthdates, phone numbers, mailing address, etc.).
 
 Being web-based and passing the Mom test would both be plusses, along with
 some sort of access control so it doesn't get caught by google and find my
 brother's home address there.  He wouldn't appreciate it.
 
 What are you using?
 
 -Mark
 
 

___
gnhlug-discuss mailing list
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-20 Thread Paul Lussier
Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How about a Yahoo account w/ a shared passwd?
 This information isn't available for search.
 Of course you'd have an issue with controlling edits/etc..

 Yahoo can also be sync'd with a Palm (on a PC).

For that matter, how about an htpasswd protected Wiki?
That way people can make changes on their own.

Of course, a cooler idea would be a password protected LDAP server
with a decent web-frontend allowing family members to edit their data.
Then they could just point their e-mail app at the LDAP server and not
have to worry about remembering e-mail addresses.

-- 

Seeya,
Paul
___
gnhlug-discuss mailing list
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-20 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 03:40:26PM -0400, Paul Lussier wrote:
 Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  How about a Yahoo account w/ a shared passwd?
  This information isn't available for search.
  Of course you'd have an issue with controlling edits/etc..
 
  Yahoo can also be sync'd with a Palm (on a PC).
 
 For that matter, how about an htpasswd protected Wiki?
 That way people can make changes on their own.
 
 Of course, a cooler idea would be a password protected LDAP server
 with a decent web-frontend allowing family members to edit their data.
 Then they could just point their e-mail app at the LDAP server and not
 have to worry about remembering e-mail addresses.

Well that's what I was really looking for, or something MySQL backed so they
can make an ODBC call to print out holiday labels.  Strangely enough,
I think we'd find more use for that than easily looking up e-mail
addresses.

-Mark


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Re: Family-friendly contact manager

2005-04-20 Thread Kevin D. Clark

Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well that's what I was really looking for, or something MySQL backed so they
 can make an ODBC call to print out holiday labels.  Strangely enough,
 I think we'd find more use for that than easily looking up e-mail
 addresses.

  The Scene:  December in the Komarinski Household.
  
  Family member #1:  I'm trying to lookup our cousin's Christmas
  wishlist, but I'm having some trouble with the ODBC bindings for
  Ruby.  Specifically, when I execute SELECT * FROM wishlist
  WHERE gift IS NULL; I get inconsistant results.
  
  Mark:  Oh, that's a feature of MySQL that you can use to find empty
  rows.  Here's an explanation...
  
  [...]



If your family can't even spell ODBC, then you're probably all the
last remaining vestages of a family that made its fortune selling
buggy-whips.  (-:

--kevin (who can't spell SQL either)
-- 
GnuPG ID: B280F24E And the madness of the crowd
alumni.unh.edu!kdc Is an epileptic fit
   -- Tom Waits
___
gnhlug-discuss mailing list
gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss