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Alternatively, you can run Knoppix from the Windows commandline if the ISO is saved on the NTFS. http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/13/1515258from=rss -- Bill[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?
On Monday 10 April 2006 4:29 pm, Richard Soule wrote: Add me to the VMWare crowd. I use it every time I do a demo. My laptop came from Oracle with WinXP on it, I run Linux, WinXP and Win2K Server VMs depending on which demo I want to run. I am planning on running Xen (SuSE 10.0 or 10.1) on my laptop since I wiped out the Windows XP partition. I may possibly load VMWare server temporarily since my NEU class starts in a couple of weeks and I want to be able to run 2 or 3 distros simulataneously. If I can get Xen running with a second distro quickly then I'll opt for that. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?
I'm doing this on two laptops.. One is running Fedora Core 5 x76-64, and occasionally hosts 32bit WinXP-pro VMs using VMware's free beta server. It works well, and has good network options, albeit with some command-line configuration. The other is running WinXP-pro 32bit, and uses Microsoft's Virtual PC and (now a no-cost download) Virtual server. This is easier to use, but restricts you to using windowsXp (or more realistically Server2003/Server2000) as the host. Virtual Server allows linux guests, but Virtual PC does not support Linux well, although there are reports that people have got it to work. Both VM product families work well for me. I think the VirtualPC and VirtualServer interface is slicker, but has less features and slightly worse performance in apples to apples comparisions. Both products have betas that can be downloaded and used for no cost (although the no-cost license may expire in the future) For both, the VMs consume a lot of memory. Both my laptops are maxxed out at 2GB. Disk Space is also important for VMs, if you want to keep historical copies, multiple versions, etc. I picked up a 160GB high performance and silent seagate laptop drive from newegg that I can recommend. I haven't used Xen yet, because at the moment my guest VM needs are primarily related to running MS systems. Charles Farinella said: On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 12:39, Ted Roche wrote: Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client work) and Linux (more client work, home hobby), and I'd like to be able to toggle between the two rather than a slow reboot. VMWare has released it's server software as a free download, http://www.vmware.com/products/server/. I have it on a couple of machines (not laptops) and it works very well. --charlie Anyone doing this? What VM manager are you using? What host OS? Tips? Reviews? Pans? Warnings? Ted You've got answers? I've got questions! Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- Charles Farinella Appropriate Solutions, Inc. (www.AppropriateSolutions.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603.924.6079 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?
On 4/11/06, Darrell Michaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both products have betas that can be downloaded and used for no cost (although the no-cost license may expire in the future) Given that Virtual PC is a Microsoft product now, you can replace may with will for that product. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Laptop OS Virtualization?
Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client work) and Linux (more client work, home hobby), and I'd like to be able to toggle between the two rather than a slow reboot. Anyone doing this? What VM manager are you using? What host OS? Tips? Reviews? Pans? Warnings? Ted You've got answers? I've got questions! Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?
Hey Ted, I am using VMWare running on top of Kubuntu. I have several Microsoft virtual machines running, each with different software installed. The nice thing about it is I can pause a virtual machine and then resume it later, totally circumventing the windows boot process. In my work flow I use the virtual windows for about ten minutes at a time, then pause it. So far, I have no complaints. I am using vmware 5 and Windows XP Professional. Another thing that is nice, is that vmware lets me share part of the linux partition as a mapped drive on Windows. I don't have to connect to the internet with windows at all this way. Helps with security. Kjel On Monday 10 April 2006 12:39 pm, Ted Roche wrote: Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client work) and Linux (more client work, home hobby), and I'd like to be able to toggle between the two rather than a slow reboot. Anyone doing this? What VM manager are you using? What host OS? Tips? Reviews? Pans? Warnings? Ted You've got answers? I've got questions! Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?
I'm running VmWare and have always been happy with it. Over time the workstation version has gotten progressively more powerful. For example I'm currently running VmWare on a Windows X64 (64bit) host laptop. The guest OS is a 64 bit Ubuntu system. With VmWare I can forget about the problems I ran into with ACPI and the unsupported Broadcom wireless chipset in the laptop. When I put Ubuntu into full screen mode I defy most users from being able to tell that Ubuntu is the guest and X64 the host. Of course the system has reasonable horse power - 1 Gig of RAM, ML30 (64 bit) CPU running at 1.6 ghz and a 100 GB hard drive. Plenty of room to install several guest OSs and enough RAM to run a couple of guest OSs concurrently. VmWare allows the guest OS to access the network in several modes (NAT, bridged etc.) and you can access USB devices, the CD drive and audio. -Alex P.S. I'm running VmWare 5.51 P.P.S. The license for VmWare workstation is currently ~$200 which is more than some of the alternatives but less than it was a couple of years back. - Original Message - From: Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GNHLUG User Group gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:39 PM Subject: Laptop OS Virtualization? Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client work) and Linux (more client work, home hobby), and I'd like to be able to toggle between the two rather than a slow reboot. Anyone doing this? What VM manager are you using? What host OS? Tips? Reviews? Pans? Warnings? Ted You've got answers? I've got questions! Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?
On 4/10/06, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client work) and Linux (more client work, home hobby), and I'd like to be able to toggle between the two rather than a slow reboot. Anyone doing this? What VM manager are you using? What host OS? Tips? Reviews? Pans? Warnings? This month's LJ covers Xen, VMWare and other virtualization stuff. If that weren't reason enough to pick up a copy, it also features a new column written by Maddog himself. I feel more famous now, by association. Way to go Maddog! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?
Hey Ted, I am using VMWare running on top of Kubuntu. I have several Microsoft virtual machines running, each with different software installed. The nice thing about it is I can pause a virtual machine and then resume it later, totally circumventing the windows boot process. In my work flow I use the virtual windows for about ten minutes at a time, then pause it. So far, I have no complaints. I am using vmware 5 and Windows XP Professional. Another thing that is nice, is that vmware lets me share part of the linux partition as a mapped drive on Windows. I don't have to connect to the internet with windows at all this way. Helps with security. Kjel On Monday 10 April 2006 12:39 pm, Ted Roche wrote: Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client work) and Linux (more client work, home hobby), and I'd like to be able to toggle between the two rather than a slow reboot. Anyone doing this? What VM manager are you using? What host OS? Tips? Reviews? Pans? Warnings? Ted You've got answers? I've got questions! Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Laptop OS Virtualization?
Add me to the VMWare crowd. I use it every time I do a demo. My laptop came from Oracle with WinXP on it, I run Linux, WinXP and Win2K Server VMs depending on which demo I want to run. Sometimes running the WinXP VM with Oracle EE database, Oracle EE Application Server, Oracle BPEL Server, Oracle XML Publisher, Oracle Forms, Oracle Reports and Oracle Discoverer can be a bit slow. Generally we recommend putting that much software on more than one machine or at least one machine with more power than my laptop: Dell D600 1.6 MHz, 2GB Ram, 80 GB HD with 250GB USB drive to hold all the VMs (some of them are 40+ GB in size). VM 5.5 for me. Rich Ted Roche wrote: Has anyone got multiple OSes running simultaneously on their personal machines? I've got a laptop I dual-boot between WinXPPro (client work) and Linux (more client work, home hobby), and I'd like to be able to toggle between the two rather than a slow reboot. Anyone doing this? What VM manager are you using? What host OS? Tips? Reviews? Pans? Warnings? Ted You've got answers? I've got questions! Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
