Re: ProBIND2 (Re: DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS)

2005-12-15 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 12/14/05, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Turns out there's ProBIND2, and it's SWEET.

   You might mention *why*... :-)

And you might also include a URL.  As Ben mentioned, sure, we could
google for it, or look on freshmeat, but if you can, why not help
others save time when you can.  Another benefit that at least I derive
from having the URL in the e-mail is the ability to instantly bookmark
it to my del.icio.us account with relevant tags.  I've found this to
be immensely useful for all sorts of things.  Not the least of which
is, later when either I have time, or someone asks me about something,
I can usually remember the minimal fact that I bookmarked *something*
to delicious and using the related tags search, quickly find it.

It's usually a lot faster than googling for things or searching e-mail
archives :)
-- 

Seeya,
Paul
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Re: ProBIND2 (Re: DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS)

2005-12-15 Thread Neil Schelly
 On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Travis Roy wrote:
 Not to pick on you in particular, Travis, as much to make a general
 point: you say you have a large number of domains, and I'd be
 curious as to the order of magnitude, just to get the big picture.

For what it's worth, this is great even if you're only managing a few
domains.  It doesn't matter what you consider large.  Including reverse
lookup zones, when I implemented this,  I think I managed 2 views with
about 10 zones in one and about 20 in the other.  That's probably small
game to anyone who's asking a question like you're asking now, but
realistically, it'll scale as much as you want it to.  If the list of
zones gets too big to have in the left column even, you can hide it
specifically because the author expected someone might not want to see a
full list of their zones in the left column.  That's what search is for.

By the way, Paul: http://probind2.sourceforge.net/
-N
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Re: ProBIND2 (Re: DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS)

2005-12-15 Thread Travis Roy


Not to pick on you in particular, Travis, as much to make a general  
point: you say you have a large number of domains, and I'd be  curious 
as to the order of magnitude, just to get the big picture.


just under 900 zone files, including reverse zones.

Managing by hand is a PITA
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Re: ProBIND2 (was: DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS)

2005-12-15 Thread Bill McGonigle


On Dec 15, 2005, at 09:00, Neil Schelly wrote:


It doesn't matter what you consider large.  Including reverse
lookup zones, when I implemented this,  I think I managed 2 views with
about 10 zones in one and about 20 in the other.


Does it grok views?  That is, when adding/changing/deleting an address 
can it (maybe through rules you specify) make those changes through 
multiple views with appropriate addresses for each view?  Now _that_ 
would save me a bunch of time.


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Re: ProBIND2 (was: DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS)

2005-12-15 Thread Neil Schelly
 On Dec 15, 2005, at 09:00, Neil Schelly wrote:

 It doesn't matter what you consider large.  Including reverse
 lookup zones, when I implemented this,  I think I managed 2 views with
 about 10 zones in one and about 20 in the other.

 Does it grok views?  That is, when adding/changing/deleting an address
 can it (maybe through rules you specify) make those changes through
 multiple views with appropriate addresses for each view?  Now _that_
 would save me a bunch of time.

That it doesn't do.  It actually doesn't really have any knowledge of
views to begin with.  In my case, I set it up where the DNS servers were
configured with a named.conf that setup the views with include statements
in each. The includes for each view were external/named.conf and
internal/named.conf which went into the subdirectories where ProBIND2
built it's config files.

Ultimately, it doesn't really support views, but so long as you don't
mind managing the databases separately, it still simplifies matters a good
deal.
-N
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Re: ProBIND2 (Re: DNS: BIND vs. WinDNS)

2005-12-14 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/14/05, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Turns out there's ProBIND2, and it's SWEET.

  You might mention *why*... :-)

  (Yes, I know I could Google for it myself, and research it, and all
that.   But:  Travis has already done (at least a little of) that.  If
he posts his thoughts once, we all benefit from it.  Big benefit
multiplier there.  Plus I find it more useful when opinions come from
a known quantity, rather then some random person on the web.  (Not
everyone here knows Travis, of course, but they at least have his post
history to go by.)  (And, yes, I *am* going for a world record for
most convoluted use of parenthetical remarks.  (Just in case you were
wondering.  (I know you probably weren't.))  (Yes, I'm kidding (about
the world record part).)))

-- Ben M, parentheses Scott
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