Re: Bit Torrent

2004-04-19 Thread Bob Keyes


On Sun, 18 Apr 2004, Jerry Feldman wrote:

 On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 16:58:32 +0900
 Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I decided to download Fedora Core 2 test 2 today.  But  I didn't want
  it to take all day, and I didn't want to  deal with finding a fast
  mirror.  So I installed Bit Torrent.

 Interesting. I think that Bit Torrent is an excellent concept. Maybe we
 should plan to present it at a future BLU meeting.

Indeed it is. I'd like to see it integrated into the web browser. I think
that things that tend to cause net log-jams (just as a new kernel release)
should FIRST be put on bittorrent.

Can you imagine what bittorrent could do on a large lan, that had a small
upstream? Say, some large university remote and poor enough to have a
crappy Internet connection.

Something to be aware of: the original bittorrent client got messy if
it ran out of disk space. Bad error handling.
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Re: Bit Torrent

2004-04-19 Thread Bob Keyes


On Sun, 18 Apr 2004, Jerry Feldman wrote:

 On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:49:09 -0400 (EDT)
 Bob Keyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Can you imagine what bittorrent could do on a large lan, that had a
  small upstream? Say, some large university remote and poor enough to
  have a crappy Internet connection.
 
 I think there is a double edged sword. Within a large LAN it makes the
 distribution of a software product more efficient, but once you start
 pushing stuff out of the LAN then you could wind up with a mess.

Not really, here's why: BitTorret balances your upload and download
bandwidth. But this is regardless of whether the peers you are exchanging
data with are on your lan, or across the Internet. Therefore, a great
portion of the upload a given client is doing, is within the local area
and therefore not 'expensive'. The more people on the LAN, the more this
is the case.

It's conceivable you could do this on a more limited basis. For instance,
if you and your neighbor were on the same LAN, say for instance connected
in Ad-Hoc 802.11g mode, and had routes added to each other, and were both
using bittorrent to get the same file, you are essentially aggregating
your net connection AND getting 'credit' for it from bittorrent, in terms
of the upload/download balance.

Now imagine this on a city=wide free wireless network, such as the one
we're building at BAWIA. And with 125MBPS becoming the new top-speed in
802.11, this could mean some real fun (note that I don't actually believe
you'd get 125, but maybe half that...still damned nice) - maybe a minute
to download a whole 650MB CD!

Think of this in amounts of less than a CD, but where there is a large
simulataneous demand, such as for patches..even microsoft's security
updates would be quick.
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Re: Bit Torrent

2004-04-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 16:58:32 +0900
Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I decided to download Fedora Core 2 test 2 today.  But  I didn't want
 it to take all day, and I didn't want to  deal with finding a fast
 mirror.  So I installed Bit Torrent.  
Interesting. I think that Bit Torrent is an excellent concept. Maybe we
should plan to present it at a future BLU meeting. 

Last Wednesday night my class installed both Fedora Core 2 test 2 (from
CD) and SuSE 9.0 Professional (from CD). Both were done on the Dell
computers in the lab at Northeastern. We installed both GNOME and KDE as
well as GCC so we could install software from sources. Both
distributions installed well within the class time. 



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Re: Bit Torrent

2004-04-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:49:09 -0400 (EDT)
Bob Keyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Indeed it is. I'd like to see it integrated into the web browser. I
 think that things that tend to cause net log-jams (just as a new
 kernel release) should FIRST be put on bittorrent.
 
 Can you imagine what bittorrent could do on a large lan, that had a
 small upstream? Say, some large university remote and poor enough to
 have a crappy Internet connection.
 
 Something to be aware of: the original bittorrent client got messy if
 it ran out of disk space. Bad error handling.
I think there is a double edged sword. Within a large LAN it makes the
distribution of a software product more efficient, but once you start
pushing stuff out of the LAN then you could wind up with a mess. 

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