Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

2003-08-03 Thread George Perrine
Considering the rest of the thread, this might be off topic but try Rx
Computers in Dover NH, Tel 603.742.0800 for the Latitude keyboard. They have
lots of notebook parts. By the time I got to Ben's last post, I was really
laughing. Great entertainment. I think I will change the GHNLUG to gnhlug
later tonight. That way it will be easier to pick it out of the address
book. George
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- Original Message -
From: Bill Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:15 PM
Subject: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard


 My keyboard is starting to flake out, particularly the left
 ctrl key, which is a hard thing for an emacs kind of guy.  It's a Dell
 Latitude, so probably the place to get a replacement is Dell, but I
 thought that I'd ask if folks have alternate suggestions before
 bighting the big price bullet.  So, is anyone comfortable with some
 source of, say, quality used Dell keyboards?

 Bill

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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

2003-08-02 Thread George Perrine
Considering the rest of the thread, this might be off topic but try Rx
Computers in Dover NH, Tel 603.742.0800 for the Latitude keyboard. They have
lots of notebook parts. By the time I got to Ben's last post, I was really
laughing. Great entertainment. I think I will change the GHNLUG to gnhlug
later tonight. That way it will be easier to pick it out of the address
book. George

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http://www.durasys.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tel 603.742.7363
Computer networks, security, support, service and systems.
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- Original Message -
From: Bill Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:15 PM
Subject: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard


 My keyboard is starting to flake out, particularly the left
 ctrl key, which is a hard thing for an emacs kind of guy.  It's a Dell
 Latitude, so probably the place to get a replacement is Dell, but I
 thought that I'd ask if folks have alternate suggestions before
 bighting the big price bullet.  So, is anyone comfortable with some
 source of, say, quality used Dell keyboards?

 Bill

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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

2003-07-31 Thread Kevin D. Clark

Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have to agree.  I can't fathom why so many techies/coders make such
 comments...  How do you type 
 
   open( LOGFILE, O_RDWR | O_EXCL | O_CREAT | O_NONBLOCK | O_NOCTTY | O_SYNC | 
 O_NOFOLLOW,
   S_IRUSR | S_IWUSR | S_IRGRP | S_IWGRP );
 
 without using CAPSLOCK?  Only painfully, I would think...

open( logfile, o_rdwr | o_excl | o_creat | o_nonblock | o_noctty | o_sync | o_nofollow,
s_irusr | s_iwusr | s_irgrp | s_iwgrp );
C-p C-a M-f 

and then hold down the M-u key for a while.


I'll bet that my way is at least as fast as using the caps-lock key,
especially for Real World programming.

--kevin  (who never uses the caps-lock key, and who would die without
  xmodmap) 

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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

2003-07-31 Thread Tom Buskey
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Steven W. Orr wrote:
| On a slightly similar vein, ...
|
| Is there a way to successfully plug in a Sun keyboard into a PC and
get it
| to work? I have switched my caps-lock and Ctrl keys years ago, but I'd
| really rather do it the proper way. Is it possible, or is the circuitry
| just incompatible? Has anyone done it?
|
|
I've used Sun's adapter to plug a PC keyboard and trackball into a Sun.
~ I had a coworker that did the opposite as you descripe.
My adapter was $75.  His was cheaper IIRC.  I'm sorry I don't remember
the brand/model/etc.
I switch from keyboard to keyboard so often I bit the bullet and got
used to the PC 101 key.  If laptops would just put ESC and ~ in common
places, I'd be set.
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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

2003-07-31 Thread Erik Price


Richard Soule wrote:
Jeff Kinz wrote:

http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/professional.htm
  $350.

First time I've seen a keyboard more expensive than a computer!  :-)


Only $239 for the essential which has the same layout and almost the
same features:
I never realized they had a cheaper version (though I never really 
looked hard either).  That's great!  I would save up and it would be my 
next big purchase -- if they offered USB.  :(  My main machine is an 
iBook, and doesn't have a PS/2 port.  Though maybe there's an 
adaptor this keyboard combined with a laptop stand to bring the 
screen closer to my face would be *perfect*.  Thanks for pointing it out.

Just my perspective... I'm sure other folks will have different ones.


No, you know what? I totally agree with what you just said.  I would 
rather have a decent keyboard (even at such a steep price [$239 is a lot 
to me]), since it's my primary means of communicating to the computer. 
Of course, I'd carry it back and forth to work every day to get the most 
bang for my buck.  Make a shoulder strap for it and everything, so I can 
look like an Elven Decker

Erik

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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Soule
If you want to type VERY fast you should try one of these:

http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/professional.htm

It's what I use at work and I love it.

Caps Lock is next to the A key though...

:-)

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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Soule
Erik Price wrote:
 
 I would save up and it would be my next big purchase -- if they
 offered USB.

http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm

It's a bit more at $299, so I would probably go with some type of
adapter:

http://www.maltron.co.uk/USB-PS2pic.html

http://google-zdnet.com.com/USB_TO_PS2_KEYBOARD___MOUSE_CONVERTER/4014-6595_15-6777881.html?tag=pl

Good luck!

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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

2003-07-31 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:47:10AM -0700, Richard Soule wrote:
 To me there are three different places where you interact with your
 computer directly:
 
 The monitor, the keyboard, and sometimes the mouse.
 
 'Overspending' in these areas is ALWAYS worth the money.
 
 Many people go out and buy that 'dream machine' with the super fast
 processor, the super duper video card, spend $200 extra to get the
 800MHz system bus, etc. But then they hook up a $29 keyboard and a $15
 mouse, or even worse one of those 'natural keyboards' that bends your
 hands into totally unnatural positions.

Ah - Good to hear.  I always looked at those things and said Wha...? 
Natural for who?

...

 To me the keyboard is the MOST important area where you interact with
 your computer, the monitor is second (but very close) and the mouse is a
 distant third.
 
 Least important: Processor speed, ram, DVDs, video cards, etc.

Especially now - with the computing portions being so cheap, it makes
sense to invest more in the the parts you have to actually use, 
the monitor and keyboard.  (Almost all of my wrist/hand pain went away
when I started doing all my programming under Linux/UNIX again. - 
almost no mousing! hmm.   )


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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

2003-07-31 Thread Erik Price


Richard Soule wrote:
Erik Price wrote:

I would save up and it would be my next big purchase -- if they
offered USB.


http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm

It's a bit more at $299, so I would probably go with some type of
adapter:
http://www.maltron.co.uk/USB-PS2pic.html
argh! Now I need to start saving.

Thanks Richard!

Erik

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Re: I need suggestions as to where to get a replacement laptop keyboard

2003-07-30 Thread Travis Roy
oh duh, laptop keyboard..

Don't mind me, I'm retarded (and both you Bens out there can keep your 
mouth shut about that comment) :)

On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 06:15 PM, Bill Freeman wrote:

My keyboard is starting to flake out, particularly the left
ctrl key, which is a hard thing for an emacs kind of guy.  It's a Dell
Latitude, so probably the place to get a replacement is Dell, but I
thought that I'd ask if folks have alternate suggestions before
bighting the big price bullet.  So, is anyone comfortable with some
source of, say, quality used Dell keyboards?
			Bill

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