Re: Intel says the PC BIOS will be replaced with 'EFI'

2003-02-21 Thread Travis Roy
They're just switching to openfirmware.. Apple and Sun have been using it
for years.

it works, it's easy, it's open, it's customizable.

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Re: Intel says the PC BIOS will be replaced with 'EFI'

2003-02-21 Thread Bayard R. Coolidge
While it's true that the proprietary architecture
vendors such as Sun, DEC, et al, had a large system
service capability mentality, I would think that, at
least for the Itanium2-based systems, be they desktop
or server, it would make sense to expand/enhance the
BIOS capabilities ANYWAY, if for no other reason than
to leverage economies-of-scale.
Bayard

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Re: Intel says the PC BIOS will be replaced with 'EFI'

2003-02-21 Thread Ben Boulanger
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Bayard R. Coolidge wrote:
 While it's true that the proprietary architecture
 vendors such as Sun, DEC, et al, had a large system
 service capability mentality, I would think that, at
 least for the Itanium2-based systems, be they desktop
 or server, it would make sense to expand/enhance the
 BIOS capabilities ANYWAY, if for no other reason than
 to leverage economies-of-scale.

Lets not forget that this BIOS replacement also makes it more graphical, 
user friendly, and customizeable.  While the big manufacturers may not 
want to add the lights out management style stuff, they'll almost 
certainly want a nice BIOS GUI with a DELL watermark.  Think of compaq's 
little partition.  If that stayed past a drive upgrade, it would have been 
decent and probably would have caught on.

Ben


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Re: Intel says the PC BIOS will be replaced with 'EFI'

2003-02-21 Thread Bob Bell
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 11:13:09AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2130826,00.html

I honestly don't think this is huge news.  Intel's use of EFI on
Itanium architecture has been going on for some time.  EFI has it's good
point and bad; ideally, open firmware is a good thing to have, though
the EFI has some funky implementation details, such as a FAT32 partition
with a funky size calculation (1% of disk, 100 MB to 1 GB, I think, but
it's been a while since I looked at this).  Overall, much better than
BIOS, although I've always thought of it as a competitor to the firmware
of Sun, DEC, HP,  IBM servers, not PC BIOS.

Of course, the big news would be if Intel was making a concerted
effort to get rid of PC BIOS and use EFI on IA-32 machines.  Such a task
would probably take a strong push from Intel.  However, that's not the
vibe that a got from the article.  Instead, the article seemed to
indicate that IA-32 implementations had only been prototyped, and
Intel's comment that they aren't in the BIOS business seemed to indicate
to be that they may not been pushing for this too hard -- after all, if
IA-32 PC's are stuck with BIOS, that's one more differentiator for IPF,
right?

BTW, Intel has infomration on EFI at
http://www.intel.com/technology/efi/.

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