Re: Local inexpensive media destruction?
Joshua Judson Rosen writes: > Ben Scott writes: >> If I had a *lot* of media, I might build a nice, hot fire, and toss >> things in one at a time. Or just do the above over time. > > Sounds like a good time. > > I haven't been to a party like that in a while :) With a little of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn and a little of that: http://copsub.com/ You can be really sure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Local inexpensive media destruction?
Ben Scott writes: > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Dave Johnson > wrote: > > Anyone know of a local/inexpensive media destruction service? > [...] > If I had a *lot* of media, I might build a nice, hot fire, and toss > things in one at a time. Or just do the above over time. Sounds like a good time. I haven't been to a party like that in a while :) -- "Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr." ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Local inexpensive media destruction?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Dave Johnson wrote: > Anyone know of a local/inexpensive media destruction service? How concerned are you with nefarious recovery? For example, the US government has fairly strict standards on what counts as "destruction" for machine media containing classified information. A degaussing magnet meeting the requirements costs around $1000, for example. But for unclassified media, software multiple-pass overwrite is generally considered sufficient. For my own personal use, I do software overwrite if I can. If not, I do something that will prevent recovery to the casual attempt. Specifically: For a hard drive, I disassemble the case, break up the circuit board by hand, remove the platters, and scratch them up a bit with kitchen steel wool. (If I had a drill press, I'd maybe add a hole or three.) For tape, floppy, or other flexible magnetic, I cut up the media in a few places using scissors. Tape I take out of the spools and unravel before cutting. For optical, I break it into pieces by hand. For flash, I'd smash the PCB and/or chips with a hammer and punch. If I had a *lot* of media, I might build a nice, hot fire, and toss things in one at a time. Or just do the above over time. A determined effort might still be able to recover data from the above, but anyone willing to go to that length of trouble could more easily break into my apartment and copy the current media. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Local inexpensive media destruction?
Last time I had to deal with this, I had about a dozen hard drives to destroy. I dismantled them and degaussed the individual platters, then used them as coasters, brought a few home to toss into the recycle bins at my condo and at several friends' homes, etc. I'm confident that this provided enough separation in space and time to ensure it would not be feasible for nefarious types to reconstruct the data that used to be on those platters, even if any of the bits managed to survive degaussing. And while the procedure was probably far more than was really necessary, the effort was fairly minor; as I recall, it took maybe five minutes to dismantle each hard drive, and perhaps another minute or two to degauss its platters. Of course, this procedure wouldn't scale very well to the hundreds of hard drives, floppies, etc. that you must have accumulated in 15+ years. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Matt Minuti wrote: > The magnets inside hard drives are super strong - best fridge magnets > you'll ever have. And the platters make decent first-surface mirrors. > On Dec 22, 2014 5:08 PM, "Tom Buskey" wrote: > >> That seems pretty good. If you have more time then $$, some things are >> pretty easy. >> >> laptop drives shatter when dropped >> regular drives can take a sledge. >> You can disassemble the drive & sand/grind the magnetic coating. >> >> If you're less concerning than total destruction, there's the DBAN DVD to >> write/overwrite. I'd trust it enough with my personal quicken data, but >> not someone else's (whoever my employer is). Afterwards you could sell the >> drives for upwards of $1 ea on ebay :-) >> >> Take the bits to the metal recycling at the dump. >> >> Some shredders can handle DVDs & CDs. >> >> Tapes are a bit harder. >> >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Kevin French wrote: >>> >>> I suspect you've already considered the below but, for us, the price of >>> $10 per drive was acceptable. They did allow me to watch the destruction. >>> >>> NORTHEAST RECORD RETENTION, LLC >>> 101 West River Road >>> Hooksett, NH 03106 >>> www.nerecordretention.com >>> >>> -Kevin >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org [mailto: >>> gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org] On Behalf Of Dave Johnson >>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 14:57 >>> To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >>> Subject: Local inexpensive media destruction? >>> >>> >>> Anyone know of a local/inexpensive media destruction service? >>> >>> >>> As I'm sure many of you do, I have a box with 15+ years of obsolete hard >>> drives, floppy, tapes, CDR, DVDR, flash, etc... in my house. >>> >>> While there has been many trips to e-scrap over the years to get rid of >>> computers, media is always removed before hand. >>> >>> There are plenty of companies that will provide me with destruction >>> services including secure transport or on-site processing, liability >>> insurance, certification, logs of all items, videos of my actual items >>> being shredded, etc.. they all come with equally impressive bills. >>> >>> Simple degausing and/or physical destruction (preferably while I watch >>> because that'd be cool) and the resulting scrap recycled is sufficient. >>> >>> >>> If not, sounds like an opportunity for a data destruction party where >>> someone has/rents a degauser and appropriate shredder. >>> >>> -- >>> Dave >>> ___ >>> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >>> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >>> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >>> >>> ___ >>> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >>> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >>> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >>> >> >> ___ >> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >> >> > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > > -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix Email j...@blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0x920063C6 PGP-Key-Fingerprint A5AD 6BE1 FEFE 8E4F 5C23 C2D0 E885 E17C 9200 63C6 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Local inexpensive media destruction?
The magnets inside hard drives are super strong - best fridge magnets you'll ever have. And the platters make decent first-surface mirrors. On Dec 22, 2014 5:08 PM, "Tom Buskey" wrote: > That seems pretty good. If you have more time then $$, some things are > pretty easy. > > laptop drives shatter when dropped > regular drives can take a sledge. > You can disassemble the drive & sand/grind the magnetic coating. > > If you're less concerning than total destruction, there's the DBAN DVD to > write/overwrite. I'd trust it enough with my personal quicken data, but > not someone else's (whoever my employer is). Afterwards you could sell the > drives for upwards of $1 ea on ebay :-) > > Take the bits to the metal recycling at the dump. > > Some shredders can handle DVDs & CDs. > > Tapes are a bit harder. > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Kevin French wrote: >> >> I suspect you've already considered the below but, for us, the price of >> $10 per drive was acceptable. They did allow me to watch the destruction. >> >> NORTHEAST RECORD RETENTION, LLC >> 101 West River Road >> Hooksett, NH 03106 >> www.nerecordretention.com >> >> -Kevin >> >> -Original Message- >> From: gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org [mailto: >> gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org] On Behalf Of Dave Johnson >> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 14:57 >> To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >> Subject: Local inexpensive media destruction? >> >> >> Anyone know of a local/inexpensive media destruction service? >> >> >> As I'm sure many of you do, I have a box with 15+ years of obsolete hard >> drives, floppy, tapes, CDR, DVDR, flash, etc... in my house. >> >> While there has been many trips to e-scrap over the years to get rid of >> computers, media is always removed before hand. >> >> There are plenty of companies that will provide me with destruction >> services including secure transport or on-site processing, liability >> insurance, certification, logs of all items, videos of my actual items >> being shredded, etc.. they all come with equally impressive bills. >> >> Simple degausing and/or physical destruction (preferably while I watch >> because that'd be cool) and the resulting scrap recycled is sufficient. >> >> >> If not, sounds like an opportunity for a data destruction party where >> someone has/rents a degauser and appropriate shredder. >> >> -- >> Dave >> ___ >> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >> >> ___ >> gnhlug-discuss mailing list >> gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org >> http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ >> > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Local inexpensive media destruction?
That seems pretty good. If you have more time then $$, some things are pretty easy. laptop drives shatter when dropped regular drives can take a sledge. You can disassemble the drive & sand/grind the magnetic coating. If you're less concerning than total destruction, there's the DBAN DVD to write/overwrite. I'd trust it enough with my personal quicken data, but not someone else's (whoever my employer is). Afterwards you could sell the drives for upwards of $1 ea on ebay :-) Take the bits to the metal recycling at the dump. Some shredders can handle DVDs & CDs. Tapes are a bit harder. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Kevin French wrote: > > I suspect you've already considered the below but, for us, the price of > $10 per drive was acceptable. They did allow me to watch the destruction. > > NORTHEAST RECORD RETENTION, LLC > 101 West River Road > Hooksett, NH 03106 > www.nerecordretention.com > > -Kevin > > -Original Message- > From: gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org [mailto: > gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org] On Behalf Of Dave Johnson > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 14:57 > To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > Subject: Local inexpensive media destruction? > > > Anyone know of a local/inexpensive media destruction service? > > > As I'm sure many of you do, I have a box with 15+ years of obsolete hard > drives, floppy, tapes, CDR, DVDR, flash, etc... in my house. > > While there has been many trips to e-scrap over the years to get rid of > computers, media is always removed before hand. > > There are plenty of companies that will provide me with destruction > services including secure transport or on-site processing, liability > insurance, certification, logs of all items, videos of my actual items > being shredded, etc.. they all come with equally impressive bills. > > Simple degausing and/or physical destruction (preferably while I watch > because that'd be cool) and the resulting scrap recycled is sufficient. > > > If not, sounds like an opportunity for a data destruction party where > someone has/rents a degauser and appropriate shredder. > > -- > Dave > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
RE: Local inexpensive media destruction?
I suspect you've already considered the below but, for us, the price of $10 per drive was acceptable. They did allow me to watch the destruction. NORTHEAST RECORD RETENTION, LLC 101 West River Road Hooksett, NH 03106 www.nerecordretention.com -Kevin -Original Message- From: gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org [mailto:gnhlug-discuss-boun...@mail.gnhlug.org] On Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 14:57 To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Subject: Local inexpensive media destruction? Anyone know of a local/inexpensive media destruction service? As I'm sure many of you do, I have a box with 15+ years of obsolete hard drives, floppy, tapes, CDR, DVDR, flash, etc... in my house. While there has been many trips to e-scrap over the years to get rid of computers, media is always removed before hand. There are plenty of companies that will provide me with destruction services including secure transport or on-site processing, liability insurance, certification, logs of all items, videos of my actual items being shredded, etc.. they all come with equally impressive bills. Simple degausing and/or physical destruction (preferably while I watch because that'd be cool) and the resulting scrap recycled is sufficient. If not, sounds like an opportunity for a data destruction party where someone has/rents a degauser and appropriate shredder. -- Dave ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
