Re: Why is sound so complicated?
On 11/20/2007 11:55 AM, Paul Lussier wrote: Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) Why are there so many ways to make Apple Pie? One. Answer that, and you've answered your question as well. I don't see what my wife's apple pie recipe has to do with sound on Linux. 2) Groups aways believe they can 'do it better'. And they're almost always wrong. And in turn, do it differently. And they're still almost always wrong. Different != better. I think you just proved the point :) -Mark ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Why is sound so complicated?
On Nov 20, 2007 11:55 AM, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) Why are there so many ways to make Apple Pie? One. I'm sorry, this was an essay question. :-D 2) Groups aways believe they can 'do it better'. And they're almost always wrong. And in turn, do it differently. And they're still almost always wrong. Different != better. *nod* Choice isn't always a good thing. -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Why is sound so complicated?
Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) Why are there so many ways to make Apple Pie? One. Answer that, and you've answered your question as well. I don't see what my wife's apple pie recipe has to do with sound on Linux. 2) Groups aways believe they can 'do it better'. And they're almost always wrong. And in turn, do it differently. And they're still almost always wrong. Different != better. -- Seeya, Paul ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Why is sound so complicated?
On Nov 17, 2007, at 18:58, sean wrote: I believe in free choice, but this seems overkill and more of a major headache. That's just an indication that the market is ripe for a superset solution, sort of like how CUPS ate everything in its path. (LPRng, I hardly knew 'ya). -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Why is sound so complicated?
On Nov 17, 2007 6:58 PM, sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be obvious, but not to me. Why does sound seem to be so complicated on Linux? Is anyone able to give me an idea why it seems so chaotic? I believe in free choice, but this seems overkill and more of a major headache. Two reasons. 1) Why are there so many ways to make Apple Pie? Answer that, and you've answered your question as well. 2) Groups aways believe they can 'do it better'. And in turn, do it differently. -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Why is sound so complicated?
On Nov 17, 2007 6:58 PM, sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does sound seem to be so complicated on Linux? Sound seems complicated on Linux because sound is complicated on Linux. As for why it is complicated on Linux: What was originally available (OSS, Open Sound System) was deficient in many ways. Multiple, independent efforts attempted to address various issues, but each with different prerequisites and goals. There is no central authority or power which can decree any one thing the standard. None of the alternatives were so overwhelmingly better than everything else that one became a de facto standard. It doesn't help that a strong sense of NIH (Not Invented Here) pervades a lot of software development efforts. Gnome and KDE have their needed daemons to work properly among others. And both GNOME and KDE have decided their old daemons were deficient and replaced them with new daemons. And you forgot JACK, NAS, and SDL. Plus others I'm no doubt forgetting. I believe in free choice, but this seems overkill and more of a major headache. Yes. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Why is sound so complicated?
On Nov 17, 2007 6:58 PM, sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be obvious, but not to me. Why does sound seem to be so complicated on Linux? There seem to be so many pieces to get sound. I have been thinking about this trying to get sound working on LTSP. There is ALSA, OSS, Gnome and KDE have their needed daemons to work properly among others. I think freedesktop is working on MAS. Then other such things as ESD, GStreamer, Phonon, PulseAudio and whatever else there might be skulking about. Is anyone able to give me an idea why it seems so chaotic? I believe in free choice, but this seems overkill and more of a major headache. Linux Journal has an article all about this in this month's issue. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
