Toll Booths (Was: Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th)

2005-10-27 Thread Travis Roy
(However, they will ticket 
you if you go too fast through the toll booth).


That's the one thing I don't like about the Fastpass/EZ-Pass system up 
here.


Has anyone been to Atlanta? The EZ-Pass style toll system is what it 
should be like anywhere they have an auto-payment type system. You can 
go 80mph through the toll plaza. They have two larger lanes on the left 
side of the highway and you can zip through like it wasn't even there. 
Your little transponder beeps and all is well.


EZ-Pass seems silly when you still have to wait in like 5-6 cars deep. 
Sure it moves faster, but when the cash (now also ez-pass) lanes only 
have on person, and the coin lanes have 2-3, it seems silly.


Then yo go through NY and they have GATES on the EZ-Pass lanes that you 
have to actually stop and wait for the gate to raise up... what's the point!

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Toll Booths (Was: Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th)

2005-10-27 Thread Bill Freeman
Travis Roy writes:
...
 > Then yo go through NY and they have GATES on the EZ-Pass lanes that you 
 > have to actually stop and wait for the gate to raise up... what's the point!

The "point" is for them to be able to reduce their staffing (fire
token sellers/toll collectors).  What?  You thought that this stuff was
for the customer's convenience?  Innocence of youth, I guess.

Bill
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Re: Toll Booths (Was: Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th)

2005-10-27 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thursday 27 October 2005 8:16 am, Travis Roy wrote:

> Has anyone been to Atlanta? The EZ-Pass style toll system is what it
> should be like anywhere they have an auto-payment type system. You can
> go 80mph through the toll plaza. They have two larger lanes on the left
> side of the highway and you can zip through like it wasn't even there.
> Your little transponder beeps and all is well.
I am unaware of any tools in Atlanta, but some of the toll systems south of 
NY are now higher speed. 
The Mass Pike at Allston has 2 open-style lanes in either direction but they 
still enforce the 15 MPH speeds as NY does with their 5MPH.

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Re: Toll Booths (Was: Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th)

2005-10-27 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thursday 27 October 2005 9:26 am, Bill Freeman wrote:

>   The "point" is for them to be able to reduce their staffing (fire
> token sellers/toll collectors).  What?  You thought that this stuff was
> for the customer's convenience?  Innocence of youth, I guess.
Certainly not. It all comes down to more revenue, lower cost.

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Re: Toll Booths (Was: Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th)

2005-10-27 Thread Neil Schelly
> Has anyone been to Atlanta? The EZ-Pass style toll system is what it
> should be like anywhere they have an auto-payment type system. You can go
> 80mph through the toll plaza. They have two larger lanes on the left side
> of the highway and you can zip through like it wasn't even there. Your
> little transponder beeps and all is well.

This seems to be the direction MA is headed anyway - I know at least a few
places have these more separated FastLane paths now.  They aren't quite
safe at 80MPH, but I don't expect they can redo the entire tolling system
for that in a day.  At least I hope that's why they're doing it this way
on some of the newer tolls.

> EZ-Pass seems silly when you still have to wait in like 5-6 cars deep.
> Sure it moves faster, but when the cash (now also ez-pass) lanes only have
> on person, and the coin lanes have 2-3, it seems silly.

My qualm here is that they are turning FastLane-only booths to
FastLane/Cash booths outside of the city at least.  That effectively makes
another cash booth and takes away a FastLane booth.  The cash booths are
getting quicker and the FastLane booths are getting slower.

I love the idea of making FastLane booths out of all the cash booths, but
the whole point of FastLane is the dedicated FastLane booths.  The lines
are getting longer there and shorter in the cash booths because it's
cheaper to turn a FastLane booth into a FastLane/cash booth than to turn a
cash booth into a hybrid.

Eh well... they'll get there eventually.

> Then yo go through NY and they have GATES on the EZ-Pass lanes that you
> have to actually stop and wait for the gate to raise up... what's the
> point!

And that's why NY/NJ drivers shouldn't be allowed on the Mass Pike.  They
all stop in the toll booths, even with everyone else going the usual
15-25MPH.
-N


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Re: Toll Booths (Was: Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th)

2005-10-27 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thursday 27 October 2005 9:41 am, Neil Schelly wrote:
> My qualm here is that they are turning FastLane-only booths to
> FastLane/Cash booths outside of the city at least.  That effectively
> makes another cash booth and takes away a FastLane booth.  The cash
> booths are getting quicker and the FastLane booths are getting slower.
I don't think this is true. In nearly all the cases I have seen, they are 
taking existing cash-only booths and making them cash and Fast Lane.
I have not see one case where they have reduced existing Fast Lane booths to 
dual use.
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Re: Toll Booths (Was: Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th)

2005-10-27 Thread Neil Schelly
> I don't think this is true. In nearly all the cases I have seen, they are
> taking existing cash-only booths and making them cash and Fast Lane.
> I have not see one case where they have reduced existing Fast Lane booths
> to
> dual use.

Exits 9 and 10 are often down to only one dedicated FastLane booth, when
they have always had 2 before.  One of the dedicated ones in each case has
switched to usually being a hybrid.  I imagine this is less often the case
in the city if that's where you're talking about.
-Neil
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