Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 21:47, Bruce Dawson wrote: Does anyone have statistics on which politico sites runs what software? It might be interesting. You might even get a few beers (or run out of the bar). --Bruce In a desperate attempt to head off a political flamewar I'm clearly responsible for setting off, I'm going to answer Bruce's question, at least partially. I obtained data for the major and minor party candidates whose names or party's names I knew or could easily find out. Apologies if I left off your favorite candidate or party--no partisanship was intended. Each entry in the table below represents the most recent query by the Netcraft survey (www.netcraft.com) for the FQDN beginning with www. Domain OS Server -- -- -- badnarik.org LinuxApache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) georgewbush.comWindows Server 2003 Microsoft-IIS/6.0 johnkerry.com LinuxApache/1.3.27 (Unix) peroutka2004.com FreeBSD Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) votenader.org LinuxApache constitutionparty.com NT4/Windows 98 Microsoft-IIS/4.0 democrats.org LinuxApache/1.3.31 (Unix) gop.comWindows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 gp.org LinuxApache/1.3.26 (Unix) Debian lp.org FreeBSD Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) reformparty.orgLinuxApache/1.3.31 (Unix) Summary --- Apache runs 73% of these sites; IIS runs 27%. Considering the small sample size, that's pretty consistent with Netcraft's overall statistics, which show Apache running slightly less than 70% of the 55+ million sites surveyed, with IIS at about 20% and everybody else (Sun, NCSA, etc.) splitting the remainder. -- Roger ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
In a message dated: 04 Oct 2004 21:47:23 EDT Bruce Dawson said: On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 15:36, Roger H. Goun wrote: ... No comment, other than to suggest you run a whois search on nhfordean.com. ... I think Roger is trying to say that the nhfordean.com site runs on Linux. (As do a number of other political sites.) Funny how that doesn't get mentioned in the news. Oh, was that the point? After seeing: Registrant: Brentwood Country Animal Hospital, P.C. 88 Ole Gordon Rd. Brentwood, New Hampshire 03833 United States in the whois results, I thought it some kind of joke about his 'animal scream' or something :) I'm not quite sure how I was supposed to infer the site ran on Linux from the whois database, other than that Roger was the contact listed. But what nhfordean.com had to do with the conversation at hand escaped me. It seemed as relevent as mod's comment, which was as apropos for this list as this entire thread. Which was the point I was attempting to make in the first place :) Does anyone have statistics on which politico sites runs what software? It might be interesting. You might even get a few beers (or run out of the bar). The all-knowing google, using this search: http://www.google.com/search?q=politician+web+sites+linux+vs.+windows reveals: http://www.richardallan.org.uk/index.php?p=206 which of course points to Netcraft. Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
The whole system needs to be scrapped and built up again. In fact, we should start with the currency. http://www.norfed.org/ Power to the people. ;-) -Original Message- From: Derek Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 10:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 09:17:54PM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: On Oct 4, 2004, at 20:53, Derek Martin wrote: By all appearances, he's nothing but a power-hungry war-mongering lunatic with an IQ of 67 ... Secret societies don't need to be sinister, but secrecy + power have always seemed a little bit that way to me... Wait, is he an idiot or an evil mastermind? Outside of Dr. Evil you usually have to be brilliant, if evil, to orchestrate a world-wide secret conspiracy. Who said GW is orchestrating anything? ;-) More likely, his much smarter buddies in SB are pulling his strings... (Note the lack of a smiley.) Politics and power should be accessible for public scrutiny in any government that wants to label itself democracy IMO. Except we're a Republic, weakened by direct-election of senators and an income tax, currently for sale to corporate interests so that politicians can pay for media advertising to manipulate the votes of an uneducated populous. I know... but the politicians never say that, because they want you to think you have more power than you do to influence things. It makes the population happier, and easier to control. There's a reason that political science programs teach Machiavelli... Anyway, this is not the place for these discussions, so I'll bow out now. :) -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank the spammers. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
Doc Searls covered this in a Linux Journal article last year: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7239 Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com On Oct 4, 2004, at 9:47 PM, Bruce Dawson wrote: On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 15:36, Roger H. Goun wrote: ... No comment, other than to suggest you run a whois search on nhfordean.com. ... I think Roger is trying to say that the nhfordean.com site runs on Linux. (As do a number of other political sites.) Funny how that doesn't get mentioned in the news. Does anyone have statistics on which politico sites runs what software? It might be interesting. You might even get a few beers (or run out of the bar). --Bruce ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 09:27, Paul Lussier wrote: In a message dated: 04 Oct 2004 21:47:23 EDT Bruce Dawson said: On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 15:36, Roger H. Goun wrote: ... No comment, other than to suggest you run a whois search on nhfordean.com. ... I think Roger is trying to say that the nhfordean.com site runs on Linux. (As do a number of other political sites.) Funny how that doesn't get mentioned in the news. Oh, was that the point? After seeing: Registrant: Brentwood Country Animal Hospital, P.C. 88 Ole Gordon Rd. Brentwood, New Hampshire 03833 United States in the whois results, I thought it some kind of joke about his 'animal scream' or something :) I'm not quite sure how I was supposed to infer the site ran on Linux from the whois database, other than that Roger was the contact listed. But what nhfordean.com had to do with the conversation at hand escaped me. It seemed as relevent as mod's comment, which was as apropos for this list as this entire thread. Which was the point I was attempting to make in the first place :) Actually, I was trying to say that I didn't support Kerry in the Primary. But I like Bruce's interpretation better. :-) -- R. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
Kudos to the admin at votenader for being the only one sensible enough
to turn off the servertokens. ('ServerTokens ProductOnly' in
httpd.conf)
Jeers to Apache for leaving it on by default...
Food for thought - Nader's privacy oriented - here privacy paranoia
helps security; does it scale to the nation?
-Bill
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Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
I might have thought about helping out if their minions hadnt have tried to convince my roomie that his vote didnt count becouse he was wasn't voting demt OR rep.. On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:20:30 -0400, Roger H. Goun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The John Kerry campaign office in Nashua is in desperate need of a toner cartridge for an HP LaserJet 5si MX printer. HP Part Number: C3909A Lexmark Part Number: 140109A If you have one you'd be willing to donate, please let me know. If you're not in the Nashua area, I'll find a way to get it from you. Thanks! -- Roger ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
I don't like interfering with the natural order of things, but... this thread's a little off topic -- as much as I like a good political debate between friends, can I suggest that it be done over beers instead of on the LUG list? -- Rob Lembree Advanced Technology Group SavaJe Technologies, Inc.
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
I was thinking last time there was a topic amok - are there any MUA's that have something like the old usenet 'killfile' functionality? Sure, you could go setup a filter, but back in the day good Usenet clients had a quick 'kill this thread' feature that could be set to expire in n days so your killfile didn't clutter up with long-forgotten threads. That would be handy for lots of mailing lists. -Bill On Oct 5, 2004, at 15:00, Rob Lembree wrote: I don't like interfering with the natural order of things, but... this thread's a little off topic -- as much as I like a good political debate between friends, can I suggest that it be done over beers instead of on the LUG list? Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking last time there was a topic amok - are there any MUA's that have something like the old usenet 'killfile' functionality? Gnus (running in X?Emacs) supports this, but then again Gnus thinks that mail and news are pretty much the same thing. This is a very handy feature. Time to *plonk* this thread... --kevin -- I do NOT have a sense of humor! It says so in my 1000-line .sig! --Kibo ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
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Toner cartridge for Kerry office
The John Kerry campaign office in Nashua is in desperate need of a toner cartridge for an HP LaserJet 5si MX printer. HP Part Number: C3909A Lexmark Part Number: 140109A If you have one you'd be willing to donate, please let me know. If you're not in the Nashua area, I'll find a way to get it from you. Thanks! -- Roger ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
I used to have a batch of toners for that printer that were notorious for jamming/clogging the printer. Too bad I threw them all out, or I'd gladly send them over ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger H. Goun Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Toner cartridge for Kerry office The John Kerry campaign office in Nashua is in desperate need of a toner cartridge for an HP LaserJet 5si MX printer. HP Part Number: C3909A Lexmark Part Number: 140109A If you have one you'd be willing to donate, please let me know. If you're not in the Nashua area, I'll find a way to get it from you. Thanks! -- Roger ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 13:54, Paul Lussier wrote: In a message dated: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:20:30 EDT Roger H. Goun said: The John Kerry campaign office in Nashua is in desperate need of a toner cartridge for an HP LaserJet 5si MX printer. Are you sure it's an HP? If you ask again, I bet they'll say it's a Cannon, or perhaps an Epson ;) Of course, if you ask again, you'll likely get a response of 'We tried the Epson before we tried the HP! And if we had it to do over again, we'd buy the same way, but we'd do it completely differently!' Yeah, I'm sure it's an HP. I installed it for them. Several times. The first time as a network printer. Laughed when I saw it was BOOTP only and couldn't get an IP address from the Linksys router. Gave it a static IP. Couldn't ping it from some of the PCs. Laughed when I found another daisy-chained Linksys router with the same factory-default settings. (They'd been wondering why machines sometimes lost connectivity when somebody else plugged in a laptop. Could be worse--they could have been Wi-Fi access points with factory default settings.) Cleaned up that mess and spent some time trying to get HP's gawdawful IPP client software working on their Win98, XP, and 2K boxes. Gave up after innumerable client crashes. Plugged a parallel cable into the nearest PC, which happened to be Win98, and tried to set it up as an SMB printer instead. Laughed when it asked for a Win98 CD. Cried when I couldn't find Win98 PCL drivers on HP's Web site. Drove an hour home, dug around until I found a Win98 CD, and talked a staffer through a VNC install over the phone. Read the VNC documentation trying to remember how to start a listen-only viewer session on a Linux box. Poked a hole in my firewall. Took control of the PC, copied required drivers to a Web server and snarfed them onto the PC. Installed drivers. Works great! :-) And why exactly can't they run down the street and buy one from Staples? Doubt they have budget for that. Everything was donated, including the printer. (What a surprise!) The good news is somebody came up with a toner cartridge for them. Not being a Kerry fan, please excuse me while I sit here not feeling bad for them. No comment, other than to suggest you run a whois search on nhfordean.com. (Of course, it it was W's office, I wouldn't feel sorry for them either, but that's only because they wouldn't have this problem. They would have a well planned strategery for dealing with these inevitabilitisms which frequently occur inopportunedly :) Yup. -- R. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 01:54:24PM -0400, Paul Lussier wrote: Not being a Kerry fan, please excuse me while I sit here not feeling bad for them. (Of course, it it was W's office, I wouldn't feel sorry for them either, but that's only because they wouldn't have this problem. They would have a well planned strategery for dealing with these inevitabilitisms which frequently occur inopportunedly :) I'm not a Kerry fan either, and generally I'm no fan of Democrats... But it saddens me to think that intelligent people can find ways to justify supporting GWB. By all appearances, he's nothing but a power-hungry war-mongering lunatic with an IQ of 67, who has no regard whatever for the international community, or even his own people. And it makes me a little nervous that Bush and Kerry both have publicly admitted to being members of the Skull and Bones, an elitist secret society which recruits its members at Yale University. This is not conspiracy theorist fantasy; it's been reported by the major news media outlets: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml Secret societies don't need to be sinister, but secrecy + power have always seemed a little bit that way to me... Politics and power should be accessible for public scrutiny in any government that wants to label itself democracy IMO. -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank the spammers. pgpgE82sxosyC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:53:32AM +0900, Derek Martin wrote: I'm not a Kerry fan either, and generally I'm no fan of Democrats... But it saddens me to think that intelligent people can find ways to justify supporting GWB. By all appearances, he's nothing but a power-hungry war-mongering lunatic with an IQ of 67, who has no regard whatever for the international community, or even his own people. And it makes me a little nervous that Bush and Kerry both have publicly admitted to being members of the Skull and Bones, an elitist secret society which recruits its members at Yale University. This is not conspiracy theorist fantasy; it's been reported by the major news media outlets: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml Since skull and bones members have to leave the room anytime the society gets mentioned, what will happen if somebody bring this up to the candidates during the town meeting - questions from the audience style debate thats coming up? ;-) -- Linux/Open Source. Now all your base belongs to you, for free. Idealism: Realism applied over a longer time period Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
On Oct 4, 2004, at 20:53, Derek Martin wrote: By all appearances, he's nothing but a power-hungry war-mongering lunatic with an IQ of 67 ... Secret societies don't need to be sinister, but secrecy + power have always seemed a little bit that way to me... Wait, is he an idiot or an evil mastermind? Outside of Dr. Evil you usually have to be brilliant, if evil, to orchestrate a world-wide secret conspiracy. Politics and power should be accessible for public scrutiny in any government that wants to label itself democracy IMO. Except we're a Republic, weakened by direct-election of senators and an income tax, currently for sale to corporate interests so that politicians can pay for media advertising to manipulate the votes of an uneducated populous. -Bill Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
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Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
In a message dated: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:53:32 +0900 Derek Martin said: On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 01:54:24PM -0400, Paul Lussier wrote: Not being a Kerry fan, please excuse me while I sit here not feeling bad for them. (Of course, it it was W's office, I wouldn't feel sorry for them either, but that's only because they wouldn't have this problem. They would have a well planned strategery for dealing with these inevitabilitisms which frequently occur inopportunedly :) I'm not a Kerry fan either, and generally I'm no fan of Democrats... But it saddens me to think that intelligent people can find ways to justify supporting GWB. By all appearances, he's nothing but a power-hungry war-mongering lunatic with an IQ of 67, who has no regard whatever for the international community, or even his own people. I'm amused by the thought that you believe I was justifying my support for anyone by what I stated in any of my e-mails. Does no one recognize parody or sarcasm anymore? And it makes me a little nervous that Bush and Kerry both have publicly admitted to being members of the Skull and Bones, an elitist secret society which recruits its members at Yale University. Should this worry me any more or less than the fact that every U.S. President has been a member of the Free Masons? This is not conspiracy theorist fantasy; it's been reported by the major news media outlets: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml Lots of things have been reported by the major media news outlets lately, many of which have turned out to be fraudulent, deceptive, or outright lies. Excuse while I doubt the veracity or dependability of these supposed 'sources beyond reproach' Secret societies don't need to be sinister, but secrecy + power have always seemed a little bit that way to me... Politics and power should be accessible for public scrutiny in any government that wants to label itself democracy IMO. Yeah, except the U.S. of A. is *not* a democracy, and what should be seldom is. Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808 BB07 9239 53F1 28EE It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
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Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 15:36, Roger H. Goun wrote: ... No comment, other than to suggest you run a whois search on nhfordean.com. ... I think Roger is trying to say that the nhfordean.com site runs on Linux. (As do a number of other political sites.) Funny how that doesn't get mentioned in the news. Does anyone have statistics on which politico sites runs what software? It might be interesting. You might even get a few beers (or run out of the bar). --Bruce signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Toner cartridge for Kerry office
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