Re: Two-party video conferencing

2010-01-08 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 17:54 -0500, Ben Scott wrote:
 Requirements:
 
 R1. Two parties only.  (Not a big table meeting.)

How is 2-party video conferencing different from Ekiga/Skype Internet
phone calls with video?
 

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Re: Two-party video conferencing

2010-01-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com wrote:
 How is 2-party video conferencing different from Ekiga/Skype Internet
 phone calls with video?

  I have no idea.  I've never worked with any kind of live video
telecomm, other than a brief stint with MSN Messenger for another
customer.

  Skype needs a third-party server, right?  So that would be out.

  Ekiga, as you and Tom Buskey kindly suggested, looks like it might
work.  It's not explict in their FAQ, but it sounds to me like it
might be able to work with an entirely internal system.

  Anyone know what's needed to make Ekiga work this way?  I know what
XMPP, SIP, Asterisk, etc., *are*, but I've never had to setup a
working implementation.

  (I know we have consultants on this list.  If someone has a canned
solution ready, send me a proposal off-list.  If the price is good
I'll prolly just outsource the initial setup.)

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Video Conferencing

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Hi All,

Has anyone done any video conference work on Linux? My company purchased
several Polycom systems for offices all over the world. However, only
one of them allows for multiple (4) connections. I was wondering if
there is a video conferencing server for Linux that would allow mulitple
connections to tie more people together. Unfortunately, I know little to
nothing about video conferencing technologies. I have found
Gatekeepers, H.323 proxies, and a few other things, but I don't know
what any of them are, and the docs are scarce. Any pointers?

TIA,
Kenny

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Re: Video Conferencing

2003-08-01 Thread Kevin D. Clark

Kenneth E. Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Has anyone done any video conference work on Linux? My company purchased
 several Polycom systems for offices all over the world. However, only
 one of them allows for multiple (4) connections. I was wondering if
 there is a video conferencing server for Linux that would allow mulitple
 connections to tie more people together. Unfortunately, I know little to
 nothing about video conferencing technologies. I have found
 Gatekeepers, H.323 proxies, and a few other things, but I don't know
 what any of them are, and the docs are scarce. Any pointers?

What you probably want is a H.323 Multiple Call Unit (MCU).

I'd recommend checking out the stuff at http://www.openh323.org/ .

Regards,

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Re: Video Conferencing

2003-08-01 Thread Thomas Charron
 On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 10:25, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
 I'd recommend checking out the stuff at http://www.openh323.org/ .
 A-HA! Thanks, Kevin. I was looking at their site, trying to figure out
 what was what. I'm going to download all of this stuff and see if I can
 get some of it to work.

  To make the long story short, H.323 is the standard that says 'this is
how it's all done'.  It's more then a protocol.  Basically, here's the
'short' version.

  Set up an H.323 Gatekeeper.  This software serves as kind of the
directory service for things like address books, etc.  When 'signing
in', you'd sign in to the gatekeeper.  When you wanted to make a call,
the client would send a message to the gatekeeper saying 'I wanna call
Ken', and the gatekeeper would 'set up' the call and provide the data to
both client so they could connect.

  Mess around with any H.323 compliant clients.  ANY client that is H.323
compliant, including netmeeting, will be able to use the above installed
gatekeeper.

  Now, TECHNICALLY the gatekeeper isnt REQUIRED, however.  I would STONGLY
advise to use one.  It makes administration and use MUCH easier, and
would allow controls to be put in place..

  A REALLY good 'What is H.323' can be found here: 
http://www.iec.org/online/tutorials/h323/index.html

  Note that H.323 isnt the only game out there.  SIP provides virtually
the same.  H.323 is much better in a smaller environment, while SIP is
more, hrm..  'Large User Base' driven.  However, the differences between
H.323 and SIP are more in how they figure out who to call, request
calls, setup things, etc..  In the end, call quality and the such is
much more dependant on the codec and protocol used to carry the call..

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Re: Video Conferencing

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:43, Thomas Charron wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 10:25, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
  I'd recommend checking out the stuff at http://www.openh323.org/ .
  A-HA! Thanks, Kevin. I was looking at their site, trying to figure out
  what was what. I'm going to download all of this stuff and see if I can
  get some of it to work.
 

   Set up an H.323 Gatekeeper.  This software serves as kind of the
 directory service for things like address books, etc.  When 'signing
 in', you'd sign in to the gatekeeper.  When you wanted to make a call,
 the client would send a message to the gatekeeper saying 'I wanna call
 Ken', and the gatekeeper would 'set up' the call and provide the data to
 both client so they could connect.

So the gatekeeper is what does all of the connection handling, so to
speak. Is the MCU part of the gatekeeper? This is where the
documentation is lacking. There seem to be quite a few componants, no
real explaination for what they are and what they do. They assume that
if you're reading the doc, then you already know what you're doing. Bad
assumption in my case ;-)
 
   Mess around with any H.323 compliant clients.  ANY client that is H.323
 compliant, including netmeeting, will be able to use the above installed
 gatekeeper.
 
   Now, TECHNICALLY the gatekeeper isnt REQUIRED, however.  I would STONGLY
 advise to use one.  It makes administration and use MUCH easier, and
 would allow controls to be put in place..
 
   A REALLY good 'What is H.323' can be found here: 
 http://www.iec.org/online/tutorials/h323/index.html

Thanks for the linkage. I'll start reading

   Note that H.323 isnt the only game out there.  SIP provides virtually
 the same.  H.323 is much better in a smaller environment, while SIP is
 more, hrm..  'Large User Base' driven.  However, the differences between
 H.323 and SIP are more in how they figure out who to call, request
 calls, setup things, etc..  In the end, call quality and the such is
 much more dependant on the codec and protocol used to carry the call..

I thought that SIP was more used in the VoIP world. H.323 seems to be
more standard in that most of the commercial equipment uses it, and most
of the software packages (netmeeting, gnomemeeting, etc.) use it as
well, allowing one to connect a small web cam up to a larger
teleconferencing system.

Thanks,
Kenny

 
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Re: Video Conferencing

2003-08-01 Thread Thomas Charron
 So the gatekeeper is what does all of the connection handling, so to
 speak. Is the MCU part of the gatekeeper? This is where the
 documentation is lacking. There seem to be quite a few componants, no
 real explaination for what they are and what they do. They assume that
 if you're reading the doc, then you already know what you're doing. Bad
 assumption in my case ;-)

  The MCU is the conferencing component.  The gatekeeper is kinda like an
LDAP server..  Kinda is VERY Kinda, it's simply a way to give you a
general idea.  It's for handling the translations of 'Kenny' to port xyz
at comp1.g2.b3.mycompany.com.  MCU is kinda like a, umm.  Multiplexer..

  And yea, I never really noticed it, but their docs are non existant..

 I thought that SIP was more used in the VoIP world. H.323 seems to be
 more standard in that most of the commercial equipment uses it, and most
 of the software packages (netmeeting, gnomemeeting, etc.) use it as
 well, allowing one to connect a small web cam up to a larger
 teleconferencing system.

  Yes, SIP has taken off more in the voice side of things.  But in the
end, they're the same thing, just using a different codec.

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