Re: GNHLUG web site re-organization

2005-10-25 Thread Bill McGonigle
One could argue that if you're doing a re-org you ought to have a plan. 
 And if you have a plan you should probably write it down.  And you 
would need to write it down in some language.  Apache re-write happens 
to be a formal language for writing this kind of stuff down.  And at 
the end you have something you can toss into conf.d that would prevent 
any bookmark breakage.


-Bill


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Re: GNHLUG web site re-organization

2005-10-25 Thread Bill McGonigle


On Oct 25, 2005, at 10:51, Bruce Dawson wrote:


Actually, it might make migration easier if we do this on the new
server. The old site will continue to run, and then we simply flip
DNS to the new server when we're ready.


I agree, that would be easier, but it's not solving the 
Google/bookmarks problem.  Should we chose to solve it.


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GNHLUG web site re-organization

2005-10-24 Thread Benjamin Scott

Hey all,

  Okay, so my claim that I would have the website re-organization done 
tonight was rather overstating my abilities.  Aside for the need for sleep 
and the demands of Real Life and such, I was ignoring the fact that my main 
home PC is currently in some distress due to distro flux.  But that turns out 
to be a blessing is disguise, because perhaps a little bit more planning is in 
order (see below), and keeping people informed is good (transparency (where 
have I heard that before?)), and, well, 'cause trying to do it all in one 
evening would probably have been a Really Bad Idea(TM).


REVIEW

  For those who were not at today's meatspace meta-meeting 
(AutumnalSummit2005), here's the summary:


  The main GNHLUG website is currently implemented using something called 
TWiki.  TWiki has this concept of webs.  They are kind of like directories, 
except they only go one level deep, and there is no root directory.  (Okay, so 
maybe they're more like 5.25-inch floppies with MS-DOS 1.0.)  The individual 
web pages (called topics in TWiki-speak) exist in those webs.


  Currently, all of our original content exists mainly in the Www and 
Organizational webs, with a smattering in Main.  We have two different 
URLs (www.gnhlug.org and wiki.gnhlug.org), which bring you to two different 
webs.  For reasons that have been beat to death, many of us, myself included, 
are convinced that this is the wrong way to go.  We've even badgered those 
who disagree into trying it our way.


THE PLAN

  The plan is to take all our original content and merge it into the Main 
web.  The Main.WebHome page/topic will become the new GNHLUG home page, which 
will appear when you pull up either of the www.gnhlug.org or wiki.gnhlug.org 
URLs.  Public pages, user pages, organizational pages, project pages, it will 
all exist in one, big, happy wiki.


  As far as Joe User is concerned, there should be little that is seen as 
different.  Links within the site will all still work as now.  The regular URL 
(http://www.gnhlug.org) will still bring one to the home page.


  Externally bookmarked URLs will likely break.  I can't think of a nice way 
around this.  To me, this is the biggest downside to this.  However, it should 
all be easily findable again, and I honestly don't think there are that many 
people with bookmarks deep into the GNHLUG site.  Of course, I've been wrong 
plenty of times before.


IMPLEMENTATION

  Most of the work can be done via the standard TWiki web interfaces.  I have 
volunteered to do the grunt work.  It'll mainly be a lot of clicking More, 
then Move Page, and so on.  During the actual process of the moving, if 
anyone else tries to do work on the wiki, they will likely collide with me. 
Fortunately, I think I can get this done in half a day on a weekend some time 
soon.


  Much of the existing navigational will be retained, at least initially. 
That includes the rough hierarchy created by the existing link structure.


  I do intend to make the GetInvolved and Organizational aspects more 
prominent on the home page, mainly by linking to them.


  I'm also going to phase out some of pages that don't contribute anything 
other then a list of links to Linux software.  Instead, I'm going to provide 
links to pages that do a better job then we ever could (e.g., Freshmeat, 
Linux.org, Google, etc.).  Others have already solved those problems; we 
shouldn't try to do it ourselves.  Actual content will not be deleted; just 
the glorified bookmark files.  :)


  Comments?  Questions?  Suggestions?  Pizza?

-- Ben You are in a maze of twisty wiki pages, all alike Scott
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