Re: control-center string freeze break

[Piotr Drąg]

2016-03-10 16:37 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mustieles García :
> You're right, I've reviewed this:
> https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/HandlingStringFreezes and I was
> wrong. I thougt a modification of an already existant string was not
> considered a break, but it is, sorry for the mistake.
>
> Is the case in where the string exists in the code, but it has not been
> marked as translatable when it's not considered as a break.
>
> In this case, I give the first approval from i18n ;)
>

And here is the second one from i18n.

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Re: control-center string freeze break

[Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)]

Hi Daniel,

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Daniel Mustieles García
 wrote:
> You're right, I've reviewed this:
> https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/HandlingStringFreezes and I was
> wrong. I thougt a modification of an already existant string was not
> considered a break, but it is, sorry for the mistake.
>
> Is the case in where the string exists in the code, but it has not been
> marked as translatable when it's not considered as a break.
>
> In this case, I give the first approval from i18n ;)

Cool, thanks so much. :)


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Re: control-center string freeze break

[Daniel Mustieles García]

You're right, I've reviewed this:
https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/HandlingStringFreezes and I was
wrong. I thougt a modification of an already existant string was not
considered a break, but it is, sorry for the mistake.

Is the case in where the string exists in the code, but it has not been
marked as translatable when it's not considered as a break.

In this case, I give the first approval from i18n ;)

2016-03-10 16:30 GMT+01:00 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :

> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Daniel Mustieles García
>  wrote:
> > I'ts in the POT file:
> >
> > #: ../panels/privacy/privacy.ui.h:43
> > msgid ""
> > "Location services allow applications to determine your geographical "
> > "position. Accuracy is increased by enabling WiFi and GPS."
>
> But that's the one that is being removed/replaced, not the one that is
> being added.
>
> >  Also, the patch replaces an existing string with another one, not just
> adds
> > a new one ;-)
>
> Hmm. and that's not counting as break? That would be very strange to me.
>
> > 2016-03-10 16:02 GMT+01:00 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the quick reply.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Mustieles García
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Technically this is not a string-freeze break, because the string
> >> > exists,
> >> > but thanks for notifying it.
> >>
> >> Are you sure? I don't see it in the POT file or anywhere else in the
> code.
> >>
> >> > Therefore, no approval needed from i18n
> >> >
> >> > Cheers!
> >> >
> >> > 2016-03-10 15:50 GMT+01:00 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)  >:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >> Just like Shell, gnome-control-center's new location API can use some
> >> >> fixes and unfortunately we'll need a string break for that.
> >> >>
> >> >> Replacing the string
> >> >>
> >> >> "Location services allow applications to determine your geographical
> >> >> position. Accuracy is increased by enabling WiFi and GPS."
> >> >>
> >> >> with
> >> >>
> >> >> "Location services allow applications to know your location. Using
> >> >> Wi-Fi and mobile broadband increases accuracy."
> >> >>
> >> >> Patches here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763259
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> >> >> 
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> >> 
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>
>
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Re: control-center string freeze break

[Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)]

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Daniel Mustieles García
 wrote:
> I'ts in the POT file:
>
> #: ../panels/privacy/privacy.ui.h:43
> msgid ""
> "Location services allow applications to determine your geographical "
> "position. Accuracy is increased by enabling WiFi and GPS."

But that's the one that is being removed/replaced, not the one that is
being added.

>  Also, the patch replaces an existing string with another one, not just adds
> a new one ;-)

Hmm. and that's not counting as break? That would be very strange to me.

> 2016-03-10 16:02 GMT+01:00 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for the quick reply.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Mustieles García
>>  wrote:
>> > Technically this is not a string-freeze break, because the string
>> > exists,
>> > but thanks for notifying it.
>>
>> Are you sure? I don't see it in the POT file or anywhere else in the code.
>>
>> > Therefore, no approval needed from i18n
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> > 2016-03-10 15:50 GMT+01:00 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Just like Shell, gnome-control-center's new location API can use some
>> >> fixes and unfortunately we'll need a string break for that.
>> >>
>> >> Replacing the string
>> >>
>> >> "Location services allow applications to determine your geographical
>> >> position. Accuracy is increased by enabling WiFi and GPS."
>> >>
>> >> with
>> >>
>> >> "Location services allow applications to know your location. Using
>> >> Wi-Fi and mobile broadband increases accuracy."
>> >>
>> >> Patches here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763259
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
>> >> 
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
>> 
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>
>



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Re: control-center string freeze break

[Daniel Mustieles García]

I'ts in the POT file:

#: ../panels/privacy/privacy.ui.h:43
msgid ""
"Location services allow applications to determine your geographical "
"position. Accuracy is increased by enabling WiFi and GPS."

 Also, the patch replaces an existing string with another one, not just
adds a new one ;-)

2016-03-10 16:02 GMT+01:00 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the quick reply.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Mustieles García
>  wrote:
> > Technically this is not a string-freeze break, because the string exists,
> > but thanks for notifying it.
>
> Are you sure? I don't see it in the POT file or anywhere else in the code.
>
> > Therefore, no approval needed from i18n
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > 2016-03-10 15:50 GMT+01:00 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Just like Shell, gnome-control-center's new location API can use some
> >> fixes and unfortunately we'll need a string break for that.
> >>
> >> Replacing the string
> >>
> >> "Location services allow applications to determine your geographical
> >> position. Accuracy is increased by enabling WiFi and GPS."
> >>
> >> with
> >>
> >> "Location services allow applications to know your location. Using
> >> Wi-Fi and mobile broadband increases accuracy."
> >>
> >> Patches here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763259
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> >> 
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> >
>
>
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>
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Re: control-center string freeze break

[Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)]

Hi,

Thanks for the quick reply.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Mustieles García
 wrote:
> Technically this is not a string-freeze break, because the string exists,
> but thanks for notifying it.

Are you sure? I don't see it in the POT file or anywhere else in the code.

> Therefore, no approval needed from i18n
>
> Cheers!
>
> 2016-03-10 15:50 GMT+01:00 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just like Shell, gnome-control-center's new location API can use some
>> fixes and unfortunately we'll need a string break for that.
>>
>> Replacing the string
>>
>> "Location services allow applications to determine your geographical
>> position. Accuracy is increased by enabling WiFi and GPS."
>>
>> with
>>
>> "Location services allow applications to know your location. Using
>> Wi-Fi and mobile broadband increases accuracy."
>>
>> Patches here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763259
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
>> 
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Re: control-center string freeze break

[Daniel Mustieles García]

Technically this is not a string-freeze break, because the string exists,
but thanks for notifying it.

Therefore, no approval needed from i18n

Cheers!

2016-03-10 15:50 GMT+01:00 Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) :

> Hi all,
>
> Just like Shell, gnome-control-center's new location API can use some
> fixes and unfortunately we'll need a string break for that.
>
> Replacing the string
>
> "Location services allow applications to determine your geographical
> position. Accuracy is increased by enabling WiFi and GPS."
>
> with
>
> "Location services allow applications to know your location. Using
> Wi-Fi and mobile broadband increases accuracy."
>
> Patches here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763259
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> 
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Re: control center string freeze break request

[Claude Paroz]

Le samedi 19 mars 2011 à 14:49 -0400, Phil Bull a écrit :
 Hi guys,
 
 On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 19:27 +0100, Wouter Bolsterlee wrote:
  El sáb, 19-03-2011 a las 19:14 +0100, Gabor Kelemen escribió:
   2011-03-19 03:10 keltezéssel, Ray Strode írta:
Select a display language for subsequent logins
   Sounds good to me, i18n approval 1/2.
  
  This string seems important for people who do not understand English
  well, so perhaps something simpler than subsequent can be used
  instead? ‘Select a display language for future logins’ maybe?
 
 Recommendation for string wording from the docs team:
 
 Select a display language (change will be applied next time you log
 in)
 
 The manner in which the changes are applied is secondary to the purpose
 of the option, so the two bits of information are separated with
 parentheses. The wording is unambiguous simple English.

i18n approval 2/2 considering the doc team recommended string is chosen.

Claude

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Re: control center string freeze break request

[Gabor Kelemen]

2011-03-19 03:10 keltezéssel, Ray Strode írta:

Hi,

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Andre Klapperak...@gmx.net  wrote:

On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 16:15 -0400, Johannes Schmid wrote:

-property name=label
translatable=yesSelect a display language/property
+property name=label
translatable=yesSelect a display language for next login/property
to make things a lot clearer.  Is this okay?

Hmm, I see your point but wouldn't we rather do
Display language (takes effect on next login)?

Agreeing with Johannes, as for next login implies for next login
only to me, and I assume that's not what you want...

Okay, how about

Select a display language for subsequent logins



Sounds good to me, i18n approval 1/2.

Regards
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Re: control center string freeze break request

[Wouter Bolsterlee]

El sáb, 19-03-2011 a las 19:14 +0100, Gabor Kelemen escribió:
 2011-03-19 03:10 keltezéssel, Ray Strode írta:
  Select a display language for subsequent logins
 Sounds good to me, i18n approval 1/2.

This string seems important for people who do not understand English
well, so perhaps something simpler than subsequent can be used
instead? ‘Select a display language for future logins’ maybe?

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Re: control center string freeze break request

[Phil Bull]

Hi guys,

On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 19:27 +0100, Wouter Bolsterlee wrote:
 El sáb, 19-03-2011 a las 19:14 +0100, Gabor Kelemen escribió:
  2011-03-19 03:10 keltezéssel, Ray Strode írta:
   Select a display language for subsequent logins
  Sounds good to me, i18n approval 1/2.
 
 This string seems important for people who do not understand English
 well, so perhaps something simpler than subsequent can be used
 instead? ‘Select a display language for future logins’ maybe?

Recommendation for string wording from the docs team:

Select a display language (change will be applied next time you log
in)

The manner in which the changes are applied is secondary to the purpose
of the option, so the two bits of information are separated with
parentheses. The wording is unambiguous simple English.

Thanks,

Phil
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Re: control center string freeze break request

[Johannes Schmid]

Hi!

 The region panel of control center allows the user to change their
 configured locale.  The problem is, the string says:
 
 Select a display language
 
 but the effects don't take effect until next login.  This is pretty
 confusing.  We'd like to something like:
 
 -property name=label
 translatable=yesSelect a display language/property
 +property name=label
 translatable=yesSelect a display language for next login/property
 
 to make things a lot clearer.  Is this okay?

Hmm, I see your point but wouldn't we rather do

Display language (takes effect on next login)?

In general this is ugly from the UI point of view anyway but I guess it
is a technical problem that cannot be solved easily.

Regards,
Johannes

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Re: control center string freeze break request

[Andre Klapper]

On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 16:15 -0400, Johannes Schmid wrote:
  -property name=label
  translatable=yesSelect a display language/property
  +property name=label
  translatable=yesSelect a display language for next login/property
  to make things a lot clearer.  Is this okay?
 
 Hmm, I see your point but wouldn't we rather do
 Display language (takes effect on next login)?

Agreeing with Johannes, as for next login implies for next login
only to me, and I assume that's not what you want...

andre
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Re: control center string freeze break request

[Khaled Hosny]

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:40:41PM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 16:15 -0400, Johannes Schmid wrote:
   -property name=label
   translatable=yesSelect a display language/property
   +property name=label
   translatable=yesSelect a display language for next login/property
   to make things a lot clearer.  Is this okay?
  
  Hmm, I see your point but wouldn't we rather do
  Display language (takes effect on next login)?
 
 Agreeing with Johannes, as for next login implies for next login
 only to me, and I assume that's not what you want...

This how I'd understand it too, so I think a subtitle in the lines of
will take effect next login makes more sense.

Regards,
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Re: control center string freeze break request

[Ray Strode]

Hi,

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 16:15 -0400, Johannes Schmid wrote:
  -                        property name=label
  translatable=yesSelect a display language/property
  +                        property name=label
  translatable=yesSelect a display language for next login/property
  to make things a lot clearer.  Is this okay?

 Hmm, I see your point but wouldn't we rather do
 Display language (takes effect on next login)?

 Agreeing with Johannes, as for next login implies for next login
 only to me, and I assume that's not what you want...

Okay, how about

Select a display language for subsequent logins

?

--Ray
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