Re: Vala tutorial translatable
Well, I've created a new wiki page for the spanish translation of the Vala tutorial: https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Tutorial/es At this momment it just has an Under construction text, but we will work on it as soon as possible. El 5 de marzo de 2012 10:21, Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com escribió: I agree with you, since wiki has some advantages that a Mallard structure hasn't, but translating a wiki can be harder work, because if there is any modification in the original page, translated pages can be outdated if translators don't track every change in the original page. Also, reviewing this translation can be harder since it must be a «lineal» translation, while a po file can be translated without following any order. This tracking is actually done by DL, showing statistics in the module's page, so it very easy to know if a module has been updated or not. Also, there is no need to include this tutorial in gnome-devel-docs; it could be a module like gtkmm-documentation. Anyway, if there is no way to export this page to a module, we'll create a new wiki page with the translation. Many thanks for your help :) El 4 de marzo de 2012 22:42, Tiffany Antopolski tiffany.antopol...@gmail.com escribió: Keeping the Vala Tutorial on the wiki makes it easier to maintain in general, especially by the people responsible for it's creation and upkeep. The developer docs do link to it, but at this time this tutorial does not really fall under the domain of the documentation team, but rather the people working on the Vala language. Duplicating it in the devel-docs will of course introduce the problem of keeping things in sync, and possible losing the current vital contributors to this important document. I think for now, the best choice really might be to create a new Spanish language wiki page. 2012/3/4 Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com Many thanks Gil. I think the second idea (moving it to a translatable system based in PO files) is the best choice :) El 4 de marzo de 2012 11:46, Gil Forcada gforc...@gnome.org escribió: El dg 04 de 03 de 2012 a les 11:03 +0100, en/na Daniel Mustieles García va escriure: Hi all, Yesterday, a new translator joined Spanish team and asked about the possibility to translate the Vala tutorial [1] hosted in gnome.org. As far as I know, it is not listed in DL as a module (and I dont know if it has been written with gettext support). Anyway, it could be a good idea make it available for translation. What do you think about it? Should I open a bug for this issue? Hi, It's a wiki page, so the more he/she can do about it is creating another page in the wiki (l.g.o/Vala/Tutorial/es ?) and start translating there maybe. You could ask the tutorial author and the docs team about moving that to their growing developer documentation so that he/she could have a proper translation system to translate on. Cheers, Cheers [1] https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Tutorial ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Tiffany Antopolski ___ gnome-doc-list mailing list gnome-doc-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list
Fwd: Vala tutorial translatable
Hi all, I'd like to propose you the posibility of moving the Vala tutorial [1] to a translatable format, based in PO files (maybe a new module, like gtkmm-documentation, or inside gnome-devel-docs?) I've sent the above mail to gnome-i18n mail list, and Gil Forcada has answered me to write you. Please, CC me since I'm not a member of this list. Many thanks [1] https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Tutorial -- Mensaje reenviado -- De: Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com Fecha: 4 de marzo de 2012 11:03 Asunto: Vala tutorial translatable Para: GNOME i18n gnome-i...@gnome.org Hi all, Yesterday, a new translator joined Spanish team and asked about the possibility to translate the Vala tutorial [1] hosted in gnome.org. As far as I know, it is not listed in DL as a module (and I dont know if it has been written with gettext support). Anyway, it could be a good idea make it available for translation. What do you think about it? Should I open a bug for this issue? Cheers [1] https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Tutorial ___ gnome-doc-list mailing list gnome-doc-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list
Re: Vala tutorial translatable
I agree with you, since wiki has some advantages that a Mallard structure hasn't, but translating a wiki can be harder work, because if there is any modification in the original page, translated pages can be outdated if translators don't track every change in the original page. Also, reviewing this translation can be harder since it must be a «lineal» translation, while a po file can be translated without following any order. This tracking is actually done by DL, showing statistics in the module's page, so it very easy to know if a module has been updated or not. Also, there is no need to include this tutorial in gnome-devel-docs; it could be a module like gtkmm-documentation. Anyway, if there is no way to export this page to a module, we'll create a new wiki page with the translation. Many thanks for your help :) El 4 de marzo de 2012 22:42, Tiffany Antopolski tiffany.antopol...@gmail.com escribió: Keeping the Vala Tutorial on the wiki makes it easier to maintain in general, especially by the people responsible for it's creation and upkeep. The developer docs do link to it, but at this time this tutorial does not really fall under the domain of the documentation team, but rather the people working on the Vala language. Duplicating it in the devel-docs will of course introduce the problem of keeping things in sync, and possible losing the current vital contributors to this important document. I think for now, the best choice really might be to create a new Spanish language wiki page. 2012/3/4 Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com Many thanks Gil. I think the second idea (moving it to a translatable system based in PO files) is the best choice :) El 4 de marzo de 2012 11:46, Gil Forcada gforc...@gnome.org escribió: El dg 04 de 03 de 2012 a les 11:03 +0100, en/na Daniel Mustieles García va escriure: Hi all, Yesterday, a new translator joined Spanish team and asked about the possibility to translate the Vala tutorial [1] hosted in gnome.org. As far as I know, it is not listed in DL as a module (and I dont know if it has been written with gettext support). Anyway, it could be a good idea make it available for translation. What do you think about it? Should I open a bug for this issue? Hi, It's a wiki page, so the more he/she can do about it is creating another page in the wiki (l.g.o/Vala/Tutorial/es ?) and start translating there maybe. You could ask the tutorial author and the docs team about moving that to their growing developer documentation so that he/she could have a proper translation system to translate on. Cheers, Cheers [1] https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Tutorial ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Tiffany Antopolski ___ gnome-doc-list mailing list gnome-doc-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list
Re: Vala tutorial translatable
Keeping the Vala Tutorial on the wiki makes it easier to maintain in general, especially by the people responsible for it's creation and upkeep. The developer docs do link to it, but at this time this tutorial does not really fall under the domain of the documentation team, but rather the people working on the Vala language. Duplicating it in the devel-docs will of course introduce the problem of keeping things in sync, and possible losing the current vital contributors to this important document. I think for now, the best choice really might be to create a new Spanish language wiki page. 2012/3/4 Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com Many thanks Gil. I think the second idea (moving it to a translatable system based in PO files) is the best choice :) El 4 de marzo de 2012 11:46, Gil Forcada gforc...@gnome.org escribió: El dg 04 de 03 de 2012 a les 11:03 +0100, en/na Daniel Mustieles García va escriure: Hi all, Yesterday, a new translator joined Spanish team and asked about the possibility to translate the Vala tutorial [1] hosted in gnome.org. As far as I know, it is not listed in DL as a module (and I dont know if it has been written with gettext support). Anyway, it could be a good idea make it available for translation. What do you think about it? Should I open a bug for this issue? Hi, It's a wiki page, so the more he/she can do about it is creating another page in the wiki (l.g.o/Vala/Tutorial/es ?) and start translating there maybe. You could ask the tutorial author and the docs team about moving that to their growing developer documentation so that he/she could have a proper translation system to translate on. Cheers, Cheers [1] https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Tutorial ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Tiffany Antopolski ___ gnome-doc-list mailing list gnome-doc-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list
