Status pages: where are the other modules?
Hi everyone :) I've recently returned to i18n after several months unable to participate, so sorry if this is a dumb q. The new status pages are great: a major improvement in several ways. :) However, where is the status data for the other modules, the ones which aren't necessarily part of the GNOME Desktop? Empathy, mentioned recently on this list, is an example, but I remember there was quite a long list of other modules still requiring translation. Is there a correspondingly cool status page for these external modules? :) from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Where is DOC_LINGUAS?
Hi everyone :) I also can't remember where DOC_LINGUAS is hiding within a module. I do remember we have to add our languages to this file when we add a docs translation, but I can't find it, for example, in gnome-desktop/ desktop-docs or gnome-control-center. LINGUAS is in the /po dir. But DOC_LINGUAS isn't in the /docs or / help dirs. Where is it hiding itself? Please remind me. Thankyou. :) from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Where is DOC_LINGUAS?
Le jeudi 28 juin 2007 à 22:33 +0930, Clytie Siddall a écrit : Hi everyone :) I also can't remember where DOC_LINGUAS is hiding within a module. I do remember we have to add our languages to this file when we add a docs translation, but I can't find it, for example, in gnome-desktop/ desktop-docs or gnome-control-center. LINGUAS is in the /po dir. But DOC_LINGUAS isn't in the /docs or / help dirs. Where is it hiding itself? Please remind me. Thankyou. :) For docs translation, DOC_LINGUAS is a variable in the Makefile.am in the help directory. Claude ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Where is DOC_LINGUAS?
On 28/06/2007, at 10:46 PM, Claude Paroz wrote: Le jeudi 28 juin 2007 à 22:33 +0930, Clytie Siddall a écrit : Hi everyone :) I also can't remember where DOC_LINGUAS is hiding within a module. I do remember we have to add our languages to this file when we add a docs translation, but I can't find it, for example, in gnome-desktop/ desktop-docs or gnome-control-center. LINGUAS is in the /po dir. But DOC_LINGUAS isn't in the /docs or / help dirs. Where is it hiding itself? Please remind me. Thankyou. :) For docs translation, DOC_LINGUAS is a variable in the Makefile.am in the help directory. Thanks, Claude. No wonder I couldn't find a separate file! ;) from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
POTFILES errors on status pages
Hi everyone :) Another status page query. ;) The warning icons on the l10n status pages about files missing or incorrect in POTFILES puzzle me. There's nothing I, as a translator, can do to fix that problem. So should those warnings be displayed on our l10n status pages at all? Is there a reason why they are shown to us? [1] Do you want us to gang up on the developers and throw rotten tomatoes at them until they fix the problem? :D from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN [1] Warning: Extremely Silly Suggestion. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Status pages: where are the other modules?
El jue, 28-06-2007 a las 22:06 +0930, Clytie Siddall escribió: However, where is the status data for the other modules, the ones which aren't necessarily part of the GNOME Desktop? Empathy, mentioned recently on this list, is an example, but I remember there was quite a long list of other modules still requiring translation. Is there a correspondingly cool status page for these external modules? :) http://l10n.gnome.org/releases/ Check what is not a «GNOME release» like: * Extra * Office * Fifth-toe * freedesktop.org Cheers. -- Jorge González González [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: POTFILES errors on status pages
El jue, 28-06-2007 a las 23:30 +0930, Clytie Siddall escribió: The warning icons on the l10n status pages about files missing or incorrect in POTFILES puzzle me. There's nothing I, as a translator, can do to fix that problem. There are several reasons to show warning messages, at least the ones that concern us are: * DOC_LINGUAS list doesn't include this language. * There are some missing files from POTFILES.in For the first, just to know that what it means, quite obvious. For the second one, you (or any other translator) should copy the names of the missing files into the file POTFILES.in, in a tidy way. Easy. So should those warnings be displayed on our l10n status pages at all? Looks like yes. Is there a reason why they are shown to us? Looks like yes. Cheers. -- Jorge González González [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: POTFILES errors on status pages
Hi Clytie, Glad to have you back in GNOME Translation waters, Today at 16:00, Clytie Siddall wrote: Another status page query. ;) The warning icons on the l10n status pages about files missing or incorrect in POTFILES puzzle me. There's nothing I, as a translator, can do to fix that problem. You usually can't do anything about them. So should those warnings be displayed on our l10n status pages at all? Is there a reason why they are shown to us? I think they are worthwhile because they sometimes indicate that a PO file might not be fully updated (even during the string freeze), or that it was not even regenerated for a while (when the stats would be old). [1] Do you want us to gang up on the developers and throw rotten tomatoes at them until they fix the problem? :D That's another of the points: you go to the module page, follow the 'file a bug' link, and file a bug :) Cheers, Danilo ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: POTFILES errors on status pages [OFFTOPIC]
Hey Danilo, can you tell us anything about damned lies, why it just updates once at around 3AM? Cheers. -- Jorge González González [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Status pages: where are the other modules?
Hi Clytie, Today at 14:36, Clytie Siddall wrote: I've recently returned to i18n after several months unable to participate, so sorry if this is a dumb q. The new status pages are great: a major improvement in several ways. :) Thanks: by now, they have also received some important improvements by Claude Paroz as well, who's also been doing major work with keeping branch information up to date. However, where is the status data for the other modules, the ones which aren't necessarily part of the GNOME Desktop? Empathy, mentioned recently on this list, is an example, but I remember there was quite a long list of other modules still requiring translation. If you start at the start page, you can follow the 'Modules' (or in Vietnamese once you translate damned-lies[1]) link from there to get to http://l10n.gnome.org/module Empathy is listed there, but without stats: to see stats, check it up on http://l10n.gnome.org/module/empathy. However, most of those modules are also inside one of the releases: http://l10n.gnome.org/releases/ Empathy, for instance, is inside Gnome Extras: http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/vi/gnome-extras Is there a correspondingly cool status page for these external modules? :) Just start on l10n.gnome.org, and you can discover it all: wherever it's not clear enough, just file a bug, and lets figure out a way to make it better. Cheers, Danilo [1]http://l10n.gnome.org/module/damned-lies ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: I18n for man pages in GNOME
Hi Claude, Helge, On Monday at 22:29, Claude Paroz wrote: Thanks, now it's clearer for me. AFAIK, there is no translation toolchain for man pages in the GNOME translation project, and I didn't find any translated man pages in GNOME SVN. It should be simple for someone with autofoo to provide build system based on gnome-doc-utils to allow translating Docbook-based manpages as well (and one such manpage is present in gnome-doc-utils/xml2po as well). Maybe someone with more experience in GNOME i18n could tell us if this has already been discussed here. Basically, I think this could be done on the same model that is currently used for Docbook help, except adding the extra step of generating man page with the appropriate tool. Exactly :) Cheers, Danilo ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: I18n for man pages in GNOME
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 17:21 +0200, Danilo Šegan wrote: Hi Claude, Helge, On Monday at 22:29, Claude Paroz wrote: Thanks, now it's clearer for me. AFAIK, there is no translation toolchain for man pages in the GNOME translation project, and I didn't find any translated man pages in GNOME SVN. It should be simple for someone with autofoo to provide build system based on gnome-doc-utils to allow translating Docbook-based manpages as well (and one such manpage is present in gnome-doc-utils/xml2po as well). And then submit a patch to gnome-doc-utils, so that we have it all in one place. :) -- Shaun ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: POTFILES errors on status pages [OFFTOPIC]
Hi Jorge, Today at 16:49, Jorge González González wrote: can you tell us anything about damned lies, why it just updates once at around 3AM? I'll need to look it up, and it may take a while until I find some time. You can also try pinging Olav (bkor on IRC) to see if something has broke on the notification side of things (that's his part of code, but I am able to debug it as well, even if it takes more time for me). Cheers, Danilo ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: POTFILES errors on status pages [OFFTOPIC]
El jue, 28-06-2007 a las 20:17 +0200, Danilo Šegan escribió: I'll need to look it up, and it may take a while until I find some time. You can also try pinging Olav (bkor on IRC) to see if something has broke on the notification side of things (that's his part of code, but I am able to debug it as well, even if it takes more time for me). I'll try to do it as well, but last time I «pinged» Olav it took weeks to get my svn account ;) I guess he is quite busy. Cheers. -- Jorge González González [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Status pages: where are the other modules?
Thanks to Claude, Jorge and Danilo for helping me with this. :) On 29/06/2007, at 12:22 AM, Danilo Šegan wrote: The new status pages are great: a major improvement in several ways. :) Thanks: by now, they have also received some important improvements by Claude Paroz as well, who's also been doing major work with keeping branch information up to date. The status pages are definitely hot. I hope other projects start using something like this. However, where is the status data for the other modules, the ones which aren't necessarily part of the GNOME Desktop? Empathy, mentioned recently on this list, is an example, but I remember there was quite a long list of other modules still requiring translation. If you start at the start page, you can follow the 'Modules' (or in Vietnamese once you translate damned-lies[1]) Ooh, we can translate the interface? Cool. :D link from there to get to http://l10n.gnome.org/module Empathy is listed there, but without stats: to see stats, check it up on http://l10n.gnome.org/module/empathy. However, most of those modules are also inside one of the releases: http://l10n.gnome.org/releases/ Empathy, for instance, is inside Gnome Extras: http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/vi/gnome-extras Is there a correspondingly cool status page for these external modules? :) Just start on l10n.gnome.org, and you can discover it all: wherever it's not clear enough, just file a bug, and lets figure out a way to make it better. Somehow, I managed to look _all around_ the main page, but still didn't find it. I think that's probably a bug in my head, not in the layout, though. ;) [1]http://l10n.gnome.org/module/damned-lies starts sharpening pencils from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
