Lao team

2008-10-28 Thread Anousak Souphavanh
Hi,

Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could re-activate Lao team.
Some of my members have been translating GNOME under Ubuntu but I told
them to hold off and do it from GNOME so the files can be upstream
later on. I check live.gnome and see that our Lao team has been
de-activated thus I would like to ask to re-active and let us
translate the remaining files. Also please tell me the status of my
SVN account, I also need to activate.

Info:
Name: Anousak Anthony Souphavanh
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Team: Lao Gnome
Country: Laos
Link: http://sourceforge.net/laofoss

Many thanks for help.

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New team for [Lao] ([lo])" as the subject

2008-10-28 Thread Lao Ubuntu Team
My name is Outhai SAIOUDOM. i'm trying to look for Lao team on Gnome but
There is no team for Lao language is listed in GNOME I18n site and I would
like to request for new team,
I have a small team working with translating Ubuntu, some friends at
National University of Laos and some volunteers.

My Email is : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The url is a part of Lao Open Source ( Lao Ubuntu ) initiative at:
http://www.laoubuntu.com


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Re: How do I get Tasque added to Damned Lies?

2008-10-28 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Thanks!

Gil Forcada wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Already added :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> El dt 21 de 10 de 2008 a les 08:29 -0700, en/na Sandy Armstrong va
> escriure:
>   
>> Hi Wonderful Folks,
>>
>> How do I get Tasque [1][2] added to Damned Lies?  Seems like it should
>> maybe be in the gnome-extras category?  This would really help out our
>> translators.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sandy
>>
>> [1] http://live.gnome.org/Tasque
>> [2] http://svn.gnome.org/svn/tasque/trunk
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Re: msgctxt conversion for 2.26 ?

2008-10-28 Thread Petr Kovar
"Kenneth Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:26:09 +0100:

> 2008/10/28 Petr Kovar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

(...)

> > That's nice, but still, the problem is current from the moment the first
> > string migrates. And that was done some months ago. So many translators
> > got a problem now. But the most interesting part is what the
> > MsgctxtMigration page says:
> >
> > "Warning:
> > This is only a proposal at this time, and not approved for project-wide
> > application. This should not be applied before being officially turned
> > into a GNOME Goal."
> >
> > Oh really? Does anybody look at that? Does anybody give a damn about
> > that? Just wondering... ;-)
> 
> Yes I remember you objected back then and still someone decided to
> test the transition, but now however, we _are_ discussing the
> possibility to make it an official GNOME goal! Any input in _that_
> subject ;)

Well, then I misunderstood the thread. So please, could this what I
might call, say, a discreditable situation be make an official GNOME goal
finally? Because the migration is already happening for some time, and the
warning notice seems like a confirmation that the current i18n team work
is, with all due respect, weak, irresolute, and generally gives
inconvincible results. Thus please, any senior member, do something with
that. Thanks.

Regards,
Petr Kovar
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Re: msgctxt conversion for 2.26 ?

2008-10-28 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2008/10/28 Petr Kovar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi!
>
> "Kenneth Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:34:54 +0100:
>
>> 2008/10/27 Matthias Clasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > This was discussed at several points in the past, most recently in
>> > August. Is http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/MsgctxtMigration something
>> > that we should target for Gnome 2.26 ?
>>
>> I definitely think so, the sooner we get rid of the "|" source of
>> errors the better. Besides, if I remember correctly the only objection
>> to fast integration of this, was that some popular translation tools
>> didn't yet support it.
>
> Correct. It was (and unfortunately still is) Poedit, to be specific.
> Thus, as I believe, a well known and widely used l10n tool among the GNOME
> translators.
>
>> Deciding on it now will give the developers on
>> those projects a good 4 months to implement it, make a new release and
>> have this new version find its way into the repos of the different
>> distributions, that is not an abundance of time, but it should be
>> do-able.
>
> That's nice, but still, the problem is current from the moment the first
> string migrates. And that was done some months ago. So many translators got
> a problem now. But the most interesting part is what the MsgctxtMigration
> page says:
>
> "Warning:
> This is only a proposal at this time, and not approved for project-wide
> application. This should not be applied before being officially turned into
> a GNOME Goal."
>
> Oh really? Does anybody look at that? Does anybody give a damn about that?
> Just wondering... ;-)

Yes I remember you objected back then and still someone decided to
test the transition, but now however, we _are_ discussing the
possibility to make it an official GNOME goal! Any input in _that_
subject ;)

Regards Kenneth Nielsen
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[Bug 363398] can not display Lao character

2008-10-28 Thread l10n (bugzilla.gnome.org)
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--- Comment #4 from Claude Paroz  2008-10-28 21:13 UTC ---
Thanks Theppitak for the feedback.


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Re: msgctxt conversion for 2.26 ?

2008-10-28 Thread Daniel Macks
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 01:49:47PM -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 08:16 +0100, Claude Paroz wrote:
> > Le lundi 27 octobre 2008 ?? 17:11 -0400, Daniel Macks a ??crit :
> > > Can configure.{ac,in} do a version-check for the new gettext when
> > > packages start requiring it? I don't know enough of gettext's autoconf
> > > macros so I don't know if this is an actual feature-request or just a
> > > friendly reminder:) But anyway, gtkhtml-3.24.0 already uses msgctxt
> > > but there's no indication that a new gettext version is required. On
> > > my machine with gettext-0.14.5, I got a cryptic build crash rather
> > > than a clear ./configure "checking for gettext>=FOO... no" failure.
> > 
> > I don't know if intltool checks for a specific gettext version. CC'd to
> > dobey as he should be able to answer.
> 
> It just checks for gnu gettext. All it calls is AC_PATH_PROG(PROGRAM,
> program) to find the tools, and then calls some of the commands with
> --version to check that they are actually GNU tools. If your error is
> "checking for gettext >= FOO... no" then I would guess the app itself
> is checking for the tools separately, and that is failing. The
> intltool.m4 doesn't have "FOO" in it anywhere.

Sorry, you mis-interpretted most of my comment. "FOO" is just a
placeholder for "whaver minimum version of gettext is needed to
support whatever new gettext feature (for example, msgctxt) is used".
And that's not what the error *is*, it's what the error *should be* if
we want to be helpful to people who are compiling the sources.

dan

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Re: msgctxt conversion for 2.26 ?

2008-10-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 08:16 +0100, Claude Paroz wrote:
> Le lundi 27 octobre 2008 à 17:11 -0400, Daniel Macks a écrit :
> > Can configure.{ac,in} do a version-check for the new gettext when
> > packages start requiring it? I don't know enough of gettext's autoconf
> > macros so I don't know if this is an actual feature-request or just a
> > friendly reminder:) But anyway, gtkhtml-3.24.0 already uses msgctxt
> > but there's no indication that a new gettext version is required. On
> > my machine with gettext-0.14.5, I got a cryptic build crash rather
> > than a clear ./configure "checking for gettext>=FOO... no" failure.
> 
> I don't know if intltool checks for a specific gettext version. CC'd to
> dobey as he should be able to answer.

It just checks for gnu gettext. All it calls is AC_PATH_PROG(PROGRAM,
program) to find the tools, and then calls some of the commands with
--version to check that they are actually GNU tools. If your error is
"checking for gettext >= FOO... no" then I would guess the app itself
is checking for the tools separately, and that is failing. The
intltool.m4 doesn't have "FOO" in it anywhere.

-- Rodney


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Re: msgctxt conversion for 2.26 ?

2008-10-28 Thread Petr Kovar
Hi!

"Kenneth Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:34:54 +0100:

> 2008/10/27 Matthias Clasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > This was discussed at several points in the past, most recently in
> > August. Is http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/MsgctxtMigration something
> > that we should target for Gnome 2.26 ?
> 
> I definitely think so, the sooner we get rid of the "|" source of
> errors the better. Besides, if I remember correctly the only objection
> to fast integration of this, was that some popular translation tools
> didn't yet support it. 

Correct. It was (and unfortunately still is) Poedit, to be specific.
Thus, as I believe, a well known and widely used l10n tool among the GNOME
translators.

> Deciding on it now will give the developers on
> those projects a good 4 months to implement it, make a new release and
> have this new version find its way into the repos of the different
> distributions, that is not an abundance of time, but it should be
> do-able.

That's nice, but still, the problem is current from the moment the first
string migrates. And that was done some months ago. So many translators got
a problem now. But the most interesting part is what the MsgctxtMigration
page says:

"Warning:
This is only a proposal at this time, and not approved for project-wide
application. This should not be applied before being officially turned into
a GNOME Goal."

Oh really? Does anybody look at that? Does anybody give a damn about that?
Just wondering... ;-)

Best,
Petr Kovar
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Re: msgctxt conversion for 2.26 ?

2008-10-28 Thread Claude Paroz
Le lundi 27 octobre 2008 à 17:11 -0400, Daniel Macks a écrit :
> Can configure.{ac,in} do a version-check for the new gettext when
> packages start requiring it? I don't know enough of gettext's autoconf
> macros so I don't know if this is an actual feature-request or just a
> friendly reminder:) But anyway, gtkhtml-3.24.0 already uses msgctxt
> but there's no indication that a new gettext version is required. On
> my machine with gettext-0.14.5, I got a cryptic build crash rather
> than a clear ./configure "checking for gettext>=FOO... no" failure.

I don't know if intltool checks for a specific gettext version. CC'd to
dobey as he should be able to answer.

Claude

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