String additions to 'libgdata.master'
This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: http://l10n.gnome.org. There have been following string additions to module 'libgdata.master': + "This account requires an application-specific password. (%s)" Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it might be worth investigating. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
gnome-shell string freeze request
Hey guys, One of the "holes" in the current gnome-shell ui is a lack of a "Restart" button. There's been a plan to add one for a while along when some other design changes by putting it in the Power Off dialog. (see http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/SystemStopRestart ). Now the gnome-shell and gnome-session changes are staged and ready to go, see: See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641375 If at all possible, it would be good to get this into GNOME 3 (so probably would need to land today) since the lack of a restart button has been somewhat contentious. Unfortunately, the new design has somewhat different strings. The main differences is we now expose a Restart button (but we already had a string for it in the source) and now we use "Power Off" instead of "Shut Down" in a few strings. Can we makes these changes? --Ray ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
Hi, > One of the "holes" in the current gnome-shell ui is a lack of a > "Restart" button. There's been a plan to add one for a while along > when some other design changes by putting it in the Power Off dialog. > (see http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/SystemStopRestart > ). Now the gnome-shell and gnome-session changes are staged and ready > to go, see: > > See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641375 > > If at all possible, it would be good to get this into GNOME 3 (so > probably would need to land today) since the lack of a restart button > has been somewhat contentious. Unfortunately, the new design has > somewhat different strings. The main differences is we now expose a > Restart button (but we already had a string for it in the source) and > now we use "Power Off" instead of "Shut Down" in a few strings. > > Can we makes these changes? I just wanted to add that this string freeze break request is for gnome-shell and is unrelated to the gnome-session one here: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2011-March/msg00193.html --Ray ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
Hi! > > Can we makes these changes? 1 of 2 for i18n without any further comment on the Power Off/Restart issues ;) (Yes, that was hard for me...) Johannes ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 10:22 -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > Hey guys, > > One of the "holes" in the current gnome-shell ui is a lack of a > "Restart" button. There's been a plan to add one for a while along > when some other design changes by putting it in the Power Off dialog. > (see http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/SystemStopRestart > ). Now the gnome-shell and gnome-session changes are staged and ready > to go, see: > > See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641375 > > If at all possible, it would be good to get this into GNOME 3 (so > probably would need to land today) since the lack of a restart button > has been somewhat contentious. Unfortunately, the new design has > somewhat different strings. The main differences is we now expose a > Restart button (but we already had a string for it in the source) and > now we use "Power Off" instead of "Shut Down" in a few strings. > > Can we makes these changes? The wiki isn't loading for me right now, and I'm not entirely clear on the interface here. This is some sort of shutdown dialog? This seems like a substantial UI freeze break during hard code freeze. It's unlikely people in the docs team will even see this live before 3.0. We really need a detailed explanation of what happens when and screenshots of every step. Thanks, Shaun ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
Shaun, This is to add a "Restart" dialog in adition to the "Power Off" option in the upper right hand corner of GNOME Shell. This isn't all that substantial as Restart isn't there today (and should be, hence the freeze request - there has been some criticism of GNOME Shell because of the lack of a restart option). From a docs perspective, if necessary, I'll update the docs myself to get this feature added. Paul On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 10:22 -0400, Ray Strode wrote: >> Hey guys, >> >> One of the "holes" in the current gnome-shell ui is a lack of a >> "Restart" button. There's been a plan to add one for a while along >> when some other design changes by putting it in the Power Off dialog. >> (see http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/SystemStopRestart >> ). Now the gnome-shell and gnome-session changes are staged and ready >> to go, see: >> >> See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641375 >> >> If at all possible, it would be good to get this into GNOME 3 (so >> probably would need to land today) since the lack of a restart button >> has been somewhat contentious. Unfortunately, the new design has >> somewhat different strings. The main differences is we now expose a >> Restart button (but we already had a string for it in the source) and >> now we use "Power Off" instead of "Shut Down" in a few strings. >> >> Can we makes these changes? > > The wiki isn't loading for me right now, and I'm not entirely clear on > the interface here. This is some sort of shutdown dialog? > > This seems like a substantial UI freeze break during hard code freeze. > It's unlikely people in the docs team will even see this live before > 3.0. We really need a detailed explanation of what happens when and > screenshots of every step. > > Thanks, > Shaun > > > ___ > gnome-doc-list mailing list > gnome-doc-l...@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list > ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 10:10 -0500, Paul Cutler wrote: > Shaun, > > This is to add a "Restart" dialog in adition to the "Power Off" option > in the upper right hand corner of GNOME Shell. There isn't currently even a "Power Off" unless you hold down Alt. So I'm still not entirely clear on the exact proposed user interaction. > This isn't all that substantial as Restart isn't there today (and > should be, hence the freeze request - there has been some criticism of > GNOME Shell because of the lack of a restart option). From a docs > perspective, if necessary, I'll update the docs myself to get this > feature added. I didn't reject the proposal. I just asked for more explanation and screenshots. -- Shaun ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
Hi, On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Shaun McCance wrote: > The wiki isn't loading for me right now, and I'm not entirely clear on > the interface here. This is some sort of shutdown dialog? Right, so when you hold down the Alt key you see an item "Power Off..." If you click that item a dialog appears, right now with two buttons (and maybe a list of apps): [ Cancel ][ Shut Down ] The patch changes this to three buttons [ Cancel ] [ Restart ] [ Power Off ] Screenshot here: http://people.gnome.org/~halfline/power-off-dialog.png So the change is mainly just adding a button in the middle. make sense? --Ray ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 11:25 -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Shaun McCance wrote: > > The wiki isn't loading for me right now, and I'm not entirely clear on > > the interface here. This is some sort of shutdown dialog? > Right, so when you hold down the Alt key you see an item "Power Off..." > > If you click that item a dialog appears, right now with two buttons > (and maybe a list > of apps): > > [ Cancel ][ Shut Down ] > > The patch changes this to three buttons > > [ Cancel ] [ Restart ] [ Power Off ] > > Screenshot here: > > http://people.gnome.org/~halfline/power-off-dialog.png > > So the change is mainly just adding a button in the middle. > > make sense? Yes, thank you. Docs team approval. -- Shaun ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
Op Di, 2011-03-22 om 10:22 -0400 skryf Ray Strode: > Hey guys, > > One of the "holes" in the current gnome-shell ui is a lack of a > "Restart" button. There's been a plan to add one for a while along > when some other design changes by putting it in the Power Off dialog. > (see http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/SystemStopRestart > ). Now the gnome-shell and gnome-session changes are staged and ready > to go, see: > > See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641375 > > If at all possible, it would be good to get this into GNOME 3 (so > probably would need to land today) since the lack of a restart button > has been somewhat contentious. Unfortunately, the new design has > somewhat different strings. The main differences is we now expose a > Restart button (but we already had a string for it in the source) and > now we use "Power Off" instead of "Shut Down" in a few strings. > > Can we makes these changes? Do I understand correctly that if you keep "shut down" then no string change is necessary? If that is the case, why the change in terminology? I looked at the mockups at the URL and they all mention "shut down" as far as I see. Friedel -- Recently on my blog: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/better-lies-about-gnome-localisation ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Localizing GNOME 3 marketing messages
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Petr Kovar wrote: > FWIW, the GNOME3.org website has been already made available for > localization to translators some time ago, see the git module: > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome3-web/ > > The DL module page with available translations is here: > > http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome3-web/ Seems like a few languages have translated the gnome3.org website. Are there any plans to also make the website present it's content translated to the users? I can only see it in English. Is the website supposed to be used after the Gnome3 launch? Now it contains text like: „GNOME 3 is scheduled for release in April 2011”... This text is likely to change come April 6th, so, to have it translated by the launch date, we should have strings available beforehand. Any such plans? -- . ..: Lucian ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
Hi! > Do I understand correctly that if you keep "shut down" then no string > change is necessary? If that is the case, why the change in terminology? > I looked at the mockups at the URL and they all mention "shut down" as > far as I see. The main gnome-shell UI displays "Power Off..." (when you press the Alt-key) and I think the dialog should be consistent with that. "Power Off..." is also much less tech-language then "Shutdown". Not even sure if the "Power Off" string is really a string addition, might be already there somewhere. Regards, Johannes ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
Le mardi 22 mars 2011, à 10:49 -0400, Johannes Schmid a écrit : > Hi! > > > > Can we makes these changes? > > 1 of 2 for i18n without any further comment on the Power Off/Restart > issues ;) (Yes, that was hard for me...) 1 of 2 for release team. So current status, if I'm not mistaken: fine for doc team 1 of 2 for i18n team 1 of 2 for release team Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Johannes Schmid wrote: > The main gnome-shell UI displays "Power Off..." (when you press the > Alt-key) and I think the dialog should be consistent with that. "Power > Off..." is also much less tech-language then "Shutdown". I'm not sure but isn't Microsoft using "Shutdown" too? Just that they are spelling it "Shut down" (which may be the correct form, I'm not sure about this). http://help.artaro.eu/images/winvista/vistabasics06.jpg http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcStx3I-DrE2pJqHEodMOds5hHUeisX7adieL_qhKDbtvK7ff6pW http://help.artaro.eu/index.php/windows-7/the-basics-of-windows-7/restart-or-turn-off-your-windows-7-computer.html Do you know about anyone not understanding that term or is it just a hunch? -- . ..: Lucian ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
2011-03-22 15:49 keltezéssel, Johannes Schmid írta: Hi! Can we makes these changes? 1 of 2 for i18n without any further comment on the Power Off/Restart issues ;) (Yes, that was hard for me...) 2/2 for i18n, this is important to put out the flames :). Regards Gabor Kelemen ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
A few control-center patches
Heya, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645527 The first patch will port the sound panel's theme section to use GSettings instead of GConf. This piece of code was somehow forgotten in the process of porting the control-center to GSettings. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645435 The second patch (the one that adds a new string), moves all the logging infrastructure to be shared amongst panels. This makes "gnome-control-center -v" work as expected, and be quiet by default. Cheers ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: string freeze request
2011-03-22 01:25 keltezéssel, Colin Walters írta: Hi, We have some late breaking changes in failure handling: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645251 Can we have a string freeze break approval? These are *hopefully* not visible strings, but we really need better crash handling. Thanks for your consideration. This looks important, so approval 1/2 for i18n. Regards Gabor Kelemen ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 17:23 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le mardi 22 mars 2011, à 10:49 -0400, Johannes Schmid a écrit : > > Hi! > > > > > > Can we makes these changes? > > > > 1 of 2 for i18n without any further comment on the Power Off/Restart > > issues ;) (Yes, that was hard for me...) > > 1 of 2 for release team. ...and 2 of 2 from release team. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper | http://www.openismus.com ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Localizing GNOME 3 marketing messages
Lucian Adrian Grijincu wrote: > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Petr Kovar wrote: > > FWIW, the GNOME3.org website has been already made available for > > localization to translators some time ago, see the git module: > > > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome3-web/ > > > > The DL module page with available translations is here: > > > > http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome3-web/ > > > Seems like a few languages have translated the gnome3.org website. > > > Are there any plans to also make the website present it's content > translated to the users? I can only see it in English. At the moment the translated pages are only available via browser content negociation, it will be fixed, but I still did not have time for this. (if someone is interested there is working code in the library-web module) > Is the website supposed to be used after the Gnome3 launch? > > Now it contains text like: „GNOME 3 is scheduled for release in April 2011”... > This text is likely to change come April 6th, so, to have it > translated by the launch date, we should have strings available > beforehand. > > Any such plans? I don't know; but it's certainly doable; we will have time next week at the release hackfest to be sure everything goes well and translated on release day. Fred ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-shell string freeze request
Vincent Untz wrote: > Le mardi 22 mars 2011, à 10:49 -0400, Johannes Schmid a écrit : > > Hi! > > > > > > Can we makes these changes? > > > > 1 of 2 for i18n without any further comment on the Power Off/Restart > > issues ;) (Yes, that was hard for me...) > > 1 of 2 for release team. > > So current status, if I'm not mistaken: > fine for doc team > 1 of 2 for i18n team > 1 of 2 for release team Seconded for the release team. Fred ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: A few control-center patches
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Heya, > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645527 > The first patch will port the sound panel's theme section to use > GSettings instead of GConf. This piece of code was somehow forgotten in > the process of porting the control-center to GSettings. > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645435 > The second patch (the one that adds a new string), moves all the logging > infrastructure to be shared amongst panels. This makes > "gnome-control-center -v" work as expected, and be quiet by default. Both patches look good to me, so +1 from me. The second one adds a translatable string, but it only shows up in --help output. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
String additions to 'gnome-shell.master'
This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: http://l10n.gnome.org. There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-shell.master': + "Click Power Off to quit these applications and power off the system." + "Power Off" + "Powering off the system." + "The system will power off automatically in %d seconds." Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it might be worth investigating. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: string freeze request
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Gabor Kelemen wrote: > 2011-03-22 01:25 keltezéssel, Colin Walters írta: >> >> Hi, >> >> We have some late breaking changes in failure handling: >> >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645251 >> >> Can we have a string freeze break approval? These are *hopefully* not >> visible strings, but we really need better crash handling. Thanks for >> your consideration. > > This looks important, so approval 1/2 for i18n. > Any further comments on this ? For the release team, I want this to go in, so 1/2. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: string freeze request
Le mardi 22 mars 2011 à 14:36 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Gabor Kelemen wrote: > > 2011-03-22 01:25 keltezéssel, Colin Walters írta: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> We have some late breaking changes in failure handling: > >> > >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645251 > >> > >> Can we have a string freeze break approval? These are *hopefully* not > >> visible strings, but we really need better crash handling. Thanks for > >> your consideration. > > > > This looks important, so approval 1/2 for i18n. > > > > Any further comments on this ? For the release team, I want this to go > in, so 1/2. 2/2 for i18n. Claude ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
String changes in gnome-backgrounds
Hi, We have a few string changes in gnome-backgrounds that I should describe. The commits were: 1. http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/commit/?id=41c743054269a4aa20aab2862258f4bc9e41b698 This removes a few strings and adds one to the nature directory: + <_name>Blue Marble The image is http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/plain/nature/BlueMarbleWest.jpg 2. http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/commit/?id=2df2c346ca79fbc19e4f3437f635a2e213bc0e0d This adds a new string for image: + <_name>Foot Fall http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/plain/nature/FootFall.png 3. http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/commit/?id=bc44163ca200e84835a317f614ca6dc4d516aab0 Adds a new string for image: + <_name>Sundown Dunes http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/plain/nature/SundownDunes.jpg 4. http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/commit/?id=0824a1480a9e0f3cc26ecf90607bc9f9bb19a3b7 Add 6 new strings for images: + <_name>Spaceflare http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/plain/nature/Spaceflare.jpg + <_name>Spaceflare Nova http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/plain/nature/Spaceflare-nova.jpg + <_name>Spaceflare Supernova http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/plain/nature/Spaceflare-supernova.jpg + <_name>Terraform Blue http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/plain/nature/Terraform-blue.jpg + <_name>Terraform Green http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/plain/nature/Terraform-green.jpg + <_name>Terraform Orange http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/plain/nature/Terraform-orange.jpg Please let me know if there are any questions. Thanks, Jon ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
String freeze break for gnome-packagekit
Hi, We have a high visibility bug in gnome-packagekit that results in the WM_CLASS being used as the application name. A name like "gpk-dbus-service" appears in the top bar of GNOME 3 when you try to install software. This makes things look pretty broken. And is high visibility since most people will want to install software at some point. The bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645281 There are other important string fixes in there as well so ensure that the application name makes sense. I think it is really important to fix this for 3.0. May we? Thanks, Jon ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String freeze break for gnome-packagekit
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:26 PM, William Jon McCann wrote: > Hi, > > We have a high visibility bug in gnome-packagekit that results in the > WM_CLASS being used as the application name. A name like > "gpk-dbus-service" appears in the top bar of GNOME 3 when you try to > install software. This makes things look pretty broken. And is high > visibility since most people will want to install software at some > point. > > The bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645281 > > There are other important string fixes in there as well so ensure that > the application name makes sense. > > I think it is really important to fix this for 3.0. May we? Also worth pointing out that the patches will reduce the overall number of translatable strings, since it consistently users 'Software Install' as the application name in all places, instead of several different names. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: A few control-center patches
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 13:58 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > Heya, > > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645527 > > The first patch will port the sound panel's theme section to use > > GSettings instead of GConf. This piece of code was somehow forgotten in > > the process of porting the control-center to GSettings. > > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645435 > > The second patch (the one that adds a new string), moves all the logging > > infrastructure to be shared amongst panels. This makes > > "gnome-control-center -v" work as expected, and be quiet by default. > > Both patches look good to me, so +1 from me. > The second one adds a translatable string, but it only shows up in > --help output. I have a third patch as well, tested by Cosimo and myself: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645541 Could I please get another +1 for the first 2 patches? ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
String additions to 'gnome-session.master'
This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: http://l10n.gnome.org. There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-session.master': + "A problem has occured and the system can't recover.\nPlease log out and try again." + "Oh no! Something has gone wrong." Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it might be worth investigating. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String additions to 'gnome-session.master'
On Mar 22, 2011 9:02 PM, "GNOME Status Pages" wrote: > > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: > http://l10n.gnome.org. > > There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-session.master': > > + "A problem has occured and the system can't recover.\nPlease log out and try again." >+ "Oh no! Something has gone wrong." I don't think that's a serous message. Best regards. > > Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it > might be worth investigating. > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String additions to 'gnome-shell.master'
Op Di, 2011-03-22 om 18:23 + skryf GNOME Status Pages: > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: > http://l10n.gnome.org. > > There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-shell.master': > > + "Click Power Off to quit these applications and power off the system." > + "Power Off" > + "Powering off the system." > + "The system will power off automatically in %d seconds." I'm a bit disappointed happy with how this one was handled. Lucian posed questions still unanswered. We're in hard code freeze and we are breaking string freeze for some advantage posed by alternative wording, for the burden of all translation teams (or the disadvantage of the users where the teams can't update in time). While we are breaking the string freeze, we also missed the opportunity to add plurals to the third string above, as it seems to need. So we'll have to fuzzy this string again at some stage for translators to spend their time again on a very visible string. All the similar strings miss plural support as well: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=644090 Could this terminology change from "Shut down" to "Power off" seriously not wait? Considering that some users might now experience an incomplete translation even though their language teams worked after the freeze, is this kind of thing really worth it? Friedel -- Recently on my blog: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/better-lies-about-gnome-localisation ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Reduced po files on l10n.gnome.org
Hi Claude! Claude Paroz , Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:56:44 +0100: > Hi, this is me again :-) > > If you read Friedel's blog post [1], you should know that we worked > recently on offering reduced po files on l10n.gnome.org, so as strings > that users rarely see in UI may be skipped by some translation teams. > > You will see several pages with new columns for the reduced version of > UI file statistics. > Currently, the only filtering is done on the "gschema.xml.in" presence > in the source of a string. Of course, we will concentrate on finer > filtering (even per-module) as soon as global stats and ui is stabilized > on the site. > I didn't triggered a complete regeneration of statistics, so the > filtering is currently only applied when there are string changes or if > I manually force a module to update. That's why the gain is not so > obvious currently. > > > On the Vertimus page, you may find two different files to translated, > only if you gain anything with a reduced po file. > See http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/nautilus/master/po/km > > Already translated strings or fuzzy strings are never stripped off the > file. > > You can choose to translate the complete file or the reduced one, as you > want. > > Report any bugs you find on Bugzilla and discuss here for design issues. First off, thanks so much for implementing this often requested feature! It'll be surely appreciated especially by smaller teams out there. How about initial comment lines in catalogs, though? When I download a random reduced catalog, I see that those lines with a list of translators, copyright info etc. seem to have been stripped. Is this on purpose? FWIW, I've spotted a similar problem in the current Transifex.net application some time ago, so this might be a heads up for those of you fellow translators who use Tx.net for localizing freedesktop.org modules etc. - beware of losing data that might be important for you or your team: http://trac.transifex.org/ticket/675 Best, Petr Kovar ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String additions to 'gnome-shell.master'
Hi Friedel! F Wolff , Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:53:54 +0200: > > Op Di, 2011-03-22 om 18:23 + skryf GNOME Status Pages: > > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: > > http://l10n.gnome.org. > > > > There have been following string additions to module > > 'gnome-shell.master': > > > > + "Click Power Off to quit these applications and power off the system." > > + "Power Off" > > + "Powering off the system." > > + "The system will power off automatically in %d seconds." > > > I'm a bit disappointed happy with how this one was handled. Lucian > posed questions still unanswered. We're in hard code freeze and we are > breaking string freeze for some advantage posed by alternative wording, > for the burden of all translation teams (or the disadvantage of the > users where the teams can't update in time). > > While we are breaking the string freeze, we also missed the opportunity > to add plurals to the third string above, as it seems to need. So we'll > have to fuzzy this string again at some stage for translators to spend > their time again on a very visible string. All the similar strings miss > plural support as well: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=644090 > > Could this terminology change from "Shut down" to "Power off" seriously > not wait? Considering that some users might now experience an incomplete > translation even though their language teams worked after the freeze, is > this kind of thing really worth it? Surely, you raise valid concerns here. Nonetheless, maybe some of these issues were of very practical nature: Lucian's message didn't include any concerned developer in the recipient list as far as I can see. It's usually advisable to double check that you're sending your message to the relevant people (and include our i18n group in CC). When we intend to talk to developers, we should probably also use desktop-devel-list etc., since it's not very likely that those who request string freeze breaks are following current threads on gnome-i18n. Not in these rush hours anyway. Thanks for filing that bug against gnome-shell, no doubt it's very unfortunate that we missed a chance to support ngettext in that case. Those of us who translate into Slavic languages know very well that it's a PITA afterwards (though there might be a solution for some languages if you try to change word order). Best, Petr Kovar ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String freeze break for gnome-packagekit
Hi!
Matthias Clasen , Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:35:25
-0400:
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:26 PM, William Jon McCann
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We have a high visibility bug in gnome-packagekit that results in the
> > WM_CLASS being used as the application name. A name like
> > "gpk-dbus-service" appears in the top bar of GNOME 3 when you try to
> > install software. This makes things look pretty broken. And is high
> > visibility since most people will want to install software at some
> > point.
> >
> > The bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645281
> >
> > There are other important string fixes in there as well so ensure that
> > the application name makes sense.
> >
> > I think it is really important to fix this for 3.0. May we?
>
> Also worth pointing out that the patches will reduce the overall
> number of translatable strings, since it consistently users 'Software
> Install' as the application name in all places, instead of several
> different names.
So AFAICS those patches referenced in the bug add only one highly visible
string ("Software Install"), since the other one seems to be already used
("Install selected software on the system").
OTOH, there are already 20 complete translations for gnome-packagekit, plus
there have been many string freeze breaks recently, so I guess I'll let
other i18n members decide if they consider this an important issue worth
fixing before the stable release.
Best,
Petr Kovar
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Re: A few control-center patches
Hi! Bastien Nocera , Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:52:37 +: (...) > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645435 > The second patch (the one that adds a new string), moves all the logging > infrastructure to be shared amongst panels. This makes > "gnome-control-center -v" work as expected, and be quiet by default. This isn't highly visible, but then again, it doesn't seem to be a release critical or very important issue either, but please correct me if I'm wrong or missing something. Best, Petr Kovar ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
String additions to 'gnome-packagekit.gnome-3-0'
This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: http://l10n.gnome.org. There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-packagekit.gnome-3-0': + "Software Install" Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it might be worth investigating. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: A few control-center patches
On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 01:37 +0100, Petr Kovar wrote: > Hi! > > Bastien Nocera , Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:52:37 +: > > (...) > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645435 > > The second patch (the one that adds a new string), moves all the logging > > infrastructure to be shared amongst panels. This makes > > "gnome-control-center -v" work as expected, and be quiet by default. > > This isn't highly visible, but then again, it doesn't seem to be a > release critical or very important issue either, but please correct me if > I'm wrong or missing something. The string isn't the big thing. The whole point is to avoid filling the user's ~/.xsession-errors with stuff they won't want to see (debug, rather than errors). ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ down!!!
Hi, I was trying to check my submitted bugs on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ but it seems to be down right now. Could someone check it please. Thanks. -- Regards, Anousak (Anthony) Souphavanh Lao Team ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String additions to 'gnome-shell.master'
Op Wo, 2011-03-23 om 01:09 +0100 skryf Petr Kovar: > Hi Friedel! > > F Wolff , Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:53:54 +0200: > > > > > Op Di, 2011-03-22 om 18:23 + skryf GNOME Status Pages: > > > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: > > > http://l10n.gnome.org. > > > > > > There have been following string additions to module > > > 'gnome-shell.master': > > > > > > + "Click Power Off to quit these applications and power off the system." > > > + "Power Off" > > > + "Powering off the system." > > > + "The system will power off automatically in %d seconds." > > > > > > I'm a bit disappointed happy with how this one was handled. Lucian > > posed questions still unanswered. We're in hard code freeze and we are > > breaking string freeze for some advantage posed by alternative wording, > > for the burden of all translation teams (or the disadvantage of the > > users where the teams can't update in time). > > > > While we are breaking the string freeze, we also missed the opportunity > > to add plurals to the third string above, as it seems to need. So we'll > > have to fuzzy this string again at some stage for translators to spend > > their time again on a very visible string. All the similar strings miss > > plural support as well: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=644090 > > > > Could this terminology change from "Shut down" to "Power off" seriously > > not wait? Considering that some users might now experience an incomplete > > translation even though their language teams worked after the freeze, is > > this kind of thing really worth it? Hi Petr > Surely, you raise valid concerns here. Nonetheless, maybe some of these > issues were of very practical nature: Lucian's message didn't include any > concerned developer in the recipient list as far as I can see. It's usually > advisable to double check that you're sending your message to the relevant > people (and include our i18n group in CC). > > When we intend to talk to developers, we should probably also use > desktop-devel-list etc., since it's not very likely that those who request > string freeze breaks are following current threads on gnome-i18n. Not > in these rush hours anyway. I think the important thing here is that people from the i18n community have to approve string breaks, and they are on this list. So I assume the required people saw that there were unanswered concerns, and yet approved it anyway, which is what makes me unhappy. > Thanks for filing that bug against gnome-shell, no doubt it's very > unfortunate that we missed a chance to support ngettext in that case. Those > of us who translate into Slavic languages know very well that it's a PITA > afterwards (though there might be a solution for some languages if you try > to change word order). Again, I would have loved someone from the GTP coordination team to actually look at the patch and see that there is an issue before giving approval. Of course, I would have also liked the developers who reviewed it to realise that this string freeze break affects a string with a reported bug, but maybe that is asking too much. Friedel -- Recently on my blog: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/better-lies-about-gnome-localisation ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
