Commit Request
Could someone commit these files? http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/nautilus-open-terminal/master/po/my http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/gnome-2-32/po/my http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-power-manager/gnome-2-32/po/my http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/brasero/gnome-2-32/po/my http://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-control-center/gnome-2-32/po/my -- Yours, Thura Hlaing ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Q3 GNOME quarterly report
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Gil Forcada wrote: > My point in this was that for "real" and meaningful statistics we > already have damned-lies, so if you want to see any data regarding a > language, module or release set go there and figure it out. I second that. Number of lines in a "git diff" does not show much in a git commit. .po files keep track of the filename and line number where the English string came from. If the programmer adds a line to the top of a file all the strings in the .po file will have their line number changed. At least you need to filter out changed lines that start with a "#" (a comment) if you plan to use that metric. This makes .po commits huge (lots of useless diffs) even when you're translating just one new string. -- . ..: Lucian ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Q3 GNOME quarterly report
El dc 23 de 11 de 2011 a les 14:20 +0100, en/na Andre Klapper va escriure: > On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 08:19 +0100, Gil Forcada wrote: > > I created a dummy script that counts how many commits has been made[1] > > during a period of time. > > Oh nice! > > > It still misses lots of things: > > - use the correct branch for that period of time > > - per-language metrics > > - documentation commits > > - ... > > > > The rough number just using the master branch from 2011-06-01 to > > 2011-09-01 is: 2132 commits. > > > > Feel free to hack on it. As you can see on the code everything is done > > by the fantastic git log command: > > git log --abbrev-commit --pretty=oneline --since @{2011-06-01} --until > > @{2011-09-01} po | wc -l > > You missed the 3rd quarter by one month. :) From which period to which period goes then? > > > [1] https://gitorious.org/gnome-various/gnome-l10n-metrics > > > I tried similar stuff for my "Projects in need" talk at GUADEC 2010. > My (untidy & probably partially wrong) scripts are available at > http://people.gnome.org/~aklapper/guadec2010/ . I did know that you have been doing quite a few of these. Thanks, I will take a look at it :) > For any commits in /po and those git branches either defined by the > jhbuild 3.4 moduleset or git master if not listed in jhbuild, I get 6182 > commits for Q3/2011 for GNOME Git. I only used the modules on http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/ca/gnome-2-32/ui/ and only for UI (/po) maybe this is the source or my 2132 and yours 6182? > The shell script that I used is attached. I will take a look tomorrow. Thanks! P.D. if you happen to come to Berlin maybe we can arrange a statistics hackfest at my flat :) Cheers, > andre > > > PS: For those generally interested in open source community metrics > there is https://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/Metrics_working_group > though not sure how active it is. > > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Q3 GNOME quarterly report
El dc 23 de 11 de 2011 a les 22:26 +0100, en/na Christian Kirbach va escriure: > Am Mittwoch, den 09.11.2011, 21:26 +0100 schrieb Kenneth Nielsen: > > Den 09-11-2011 20:16, Gil Forcada skrev: > > > El dc 09 de 11 de 2011 a les 16:47 +0100, en/na Kenneth Nielsen va > > > escriure: > > >> Den 09-11-2011 16:14, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy skrev: > > >>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Kenneth Nielsen > > >>> wrote: > > Den 09-11-2011 09:45, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy skrev: > > > > >> commit should roughly equal the following number of strings: > > >> > > >> number_of_updated_strings_per_cycle/(number_of_modules * > > >> number_of_updates_per_module_in_a_cycle) > > >> > > > point was exactly, that the number of commits should make a perfectly > > reasonably metric for _comparisons_ of activity, which can be used for > > the kind of "general terms" measurements that you are talking about. > > Hi > > I tend to strongly disagree here; very little conclusions can be drawn > from looking > at the numbers of commits, even considering the total number of strings > updated > in a 6 month release cycle. > Commits can be anything between adding yourself to the list of > translators > and adding a new, entirely translated file of fivethousand new strings, > I do not > see the benefit of looking at the number of commits. Correct me if I am > wrong. > > Is it not just the plain number of words in strings translated that > matter? > Or less precise, the number of strings translated? > My point in this was that for "real" and meaningful statistics we already have damned-lies, so if you want to see any data regarding a language, module or release set go there and figure it out. But the quarterly reports are meant to be a general overview of the projects, so a general overview of i18n and l10n teams is how many commits have been made. Just take the QA team as an example: they can say that in a given quarter there has been 500 bugs closed and 4000 open. What does that mean for QA team? Mostly nothing because half of the 500 closed could come from a project which was abandoned and half of the 4000 open could be from a project imported. It is just giving numbers for the sake of giving numbers. To feel that something is moving and that there are translators working all year long trying to improve each of them their own language statistics and quality. Cheers, -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Q3 GNOME quarterly report
Am Mittwoch, den 09.11.2011, 21:26 +0100 schrieb Kenneth Nielsen: > Den 09-11-2011 20:16, Gil Forcada skrev: > > El dc 09 de 11 de 2011 a les 16:47 +0100, en/na Kenneth Nielsen va > > escriure: > >> Den 09-11-2011 16:14, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy skrev: > >>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Kenneth Nielsen > >>> wrote: > Den 09-11-2011 09:45, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy skrev: > >> commit should roughly equal the following number of strings: > >> > >> number_of_updated_strings_per_cycle/(number_of_modules * > >> number_of_updates_per_module_in_a_cycle) > >> > point was exactly, that the number of commits should make a perfectly > reasonably metric for _comparisons_ of activity, which can be used for > the kind of "general terms" measurements that you are talking about. Hi I tend to strongly disagree here; very little conclusions can be drawn from looking at the numbers of commits, even considering the total number of strings updated in a 6 month release cycle. Commits can be anything between adding yourself to the list of translators and adding a new, entirely translated file of fivethousand new strings, I do not see the benefit of looking at the number of commits. Correct me if I am wrong. Is it not just the plain number of words in strings translated that matter? Or less precise, the number of strings translated? -- Christian Kirbach ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re:
Hello. Have you tried to communicate with the same team of Ubuntu? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeadowMariTranslation 2011/11/22 Ainur Shakirov > Hello! > > Big thanks that you has transferred coordinators rights for Tatar Team to > me! > > So... I have another wish. I want register Mary language to Gnome > Translators Team. Language code - mhr. Temporally coordinator rights please > give to me, in the future, I will give it a true coordinator of Mary > Translator Team (at the moment team is created). > > Thanks! > > -- > > WBR, > Ainur Shakirov, 21, СENTER Company/Bulgaria Tatarish Project Team > Kukmor/Kazan, Tatarstan, Russia > Mob.tel: +79276772201 > > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n > > -- Regards, Den V. Kaftaev ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Q3 GNOME quarterly report
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 08:19 +0100, Gil Forcada wrote: > I created a dummy script that counts how many commits has been made[1] > during a period of time. Oh nice! > It still misses lots of things: > - use the correct branch for that period of time > - per-language metrics > - documentation commits > - ... > > The rough number just using the master branch from 2011-06-01 to > 2011-09-01 is: 2132 commits. > > Feel free to hack on it. As you can see on the code everything is done > by the fantastic git log command: > git log --abbrev-commit --pretty=oneline --since @{2011-06-01} --until > @{2011-09-01} po | wc -l You missed the 3rd quarter by one month. :) > [1] https://gitorious.org/gnome-various/gnome-l10n-metrics I tried similar stuff for my "Projects in need" talk at GUADEC 2010. My (untidy & probably partially wrong) scripts are available at http://people.gnome.org/~aklapper/guadec2010/ . For any commits in /po and those git branches either defined by the jhbuild 3.4 moduleset or git master if not listed in jhbuild, I get 6182 commits for Q3/2011 for GNOME Git. The shell script that I used is attached. andre PS: For those generally interested in open source community metrics there is https://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/Metrics_working_group though not sure how active it is. -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper | http://www.openismus.com po-commits Description: application/shellscript ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n