Re: date in friulian

[Fabio Tomat]

actually no, we can't use cardinal number for the first day of the month (i
wrote ordinal but was cardinal instead sorry "cardinal_number de mes de año")
like it is used in spanish (I read now that in spanish you can use both
"one" or "the first day of" so I answered my question :) ) and we use the
"at the"(singular/plural) form before that number. So I'm the first one to
face this problem. I try to file a bug as suggested by Rafael Fontenelle

2016-06-29 17:02 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mustieles García <
daniel.mustie...@gmail.com>:

> Ah, ok ok ;-)
>
> In that case, friulian team could do something similar to avoid the
> problem?
>
> 2016-06-29 16:57 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
>
>> the fact is that no spanish translated module used that form, just
>> "ordinal_number de mes de año", I asked if you faced the problem or
>>  not. That's all. :)
>> for example in gnome-shell spanish this string:
>>
>> msgid "%B %d %Y, %H∶%M"
>> is translated as:
>> msgstr "%d de %B de %Y, %H∶%M"
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-06-29 16:43 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mustieles García <
>> daniel.mustie...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Sure, that would be better than the other one.
>>>
>>> But I'd like to know which module shows strings like those, to see how
>>> we translated them. Maybe that could give us a clue about how to do it in
>>> friulian
>>>
>>> 2016-06-29 16:39 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
>>>
 Maybe " el primer día de " ?
 Just searched on the net...

 Il mer giu 29 08:49:39 2016 GMT+0200, Daniel Mustieles García scrive:
 > Where have you seen those strings?
 >
 > The second one doesn't seem to be right... I should check it with the
 > original string, but that's not completely correct in spanish.
 >
 > Thanks!
 >
 > 2016-06-29 7:58 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
 >
 > > I searched around infos, and I found that SPANISH is similar to
 friulian
 > > in this problem:
 > >
 > >
 > > *el 29 de febrero de 1996*
 > >
 > >
 > > *el primero de febrero de 1996*
 > > they use articles (but always in singular form) before the date,
 but it
 > > seems that in po file they use no articles before the day (they
 still use
 > > the "of" before moth and year);
 > > anyway they do not use the different number (ordinal for 1st) and
 cardinal
 > > for the other days in the po file.
 > > Does someone who translate from spanish has already tried to
 resolve this
 > > problem with the date?
 > >
 > >
 > > 2016-06-27 16:36 GMT+02:00 Ask Hjorth Larsen :
 > >
 > >> Hi Fabio (re-added i18n, please reply to lits)
 > >>
 > >> Still, it's an irregularity where the text surrounding a number
 > >> depends on the number.  This exists in gettext only as the standard
 > >> plural form feature.  Fixing it would require multiple such
 > >> mechanisms: One for singular/plural, one for dates, one for
 ordinals,
 > >> ...
 > >>
 > >> It is not straightforward and would have to be added to gettext,
 and
 > >> would propagate to GNOME and other projects in a matter of years -
 as
 > >> far as I can tell.
 > >>
 > >> Best regards
 > >> Ask
 > >>
 > >> 2016-06-27 14:04 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
 > >> > In friulian only the date needs this. Ordinals and cardinals
 numbers
 > >> are just like other languages.
 > >> > So there are 1,2,3,4... And 1st,2nd,3rd...
 > >> > But when we talk about dates the first day of the month is "at
 the
 > >> first of june..." then we have  "at the 2 of..."
 > >> >
 > >> > Il lun giu 27 11:29:00 2016 GMT+0200, Ask Hjorth Larsen scrive:
 > >> >> But this is more complicated because there is only one plural
 > >> mechanism,
 > >> >> and even English needs a separate mechanism to write things
 like 1st,
 > >> 2nd,
 > >> >> 3rd and 4th.
 > >> >>
 > >> >> El 27/06/2016 07:14, "Rafael Fontenelle" <
 rffontene...@gmail.com>
 > >> escribió:
 > >> >>
 > >> >> >
 > >> >> > 2016-06-26 2:50 GMT-03:00 Fabio Tomat :
 > >> >> >
 > >> >> >> Greetings community,
 > >> >> >> with gnome 3.20 I modified the dates in gnome as best as I
 could,
 > >> but the
 > >> >> >> right form of the date is this:
 > >> >> >>
 > >> >> >> al 1ⁿ di jugn dal 2016  literally translated:  at
 the(singular)
 > >> 1ˢᵗ
 > >> >> >> of June of the 2016
 > >> >> >> ai 25 di jugn dal 2016 literally translated:  at
 the(plural) 25
 > >> of
 > >> >> >> June of the 2016
 > >> >> >>
 > >> >> >> I don't know how to implement this.
 > >> >> >> the big problem (in the translated software) is specify if
 it's the
 > >> first
 > >> >> >> day of the month or one of the remaining days.
 > >> >> >>
 > >> >> >> Can 

Re: date in friulian

[Daniel Mustieles García]

Ah, ok ok ;-)

In that case, friulian team could do something similar to avoid the problem?

2016-06-29 16:57 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :

> the fact is that no spanish translated module used that form, just
> "ordinal_number de mes de año", I asked if you faced the problem or
>  not. That's all. :)
> for example in gnome-shell spanish this string:
>
> msgid "%B %d %Y, %H∶%M"
> is translated as:
> msgstr "%d de %B de %Y, %H∶%M"
>
>
>
> 2016-06-29 16:43 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mustieles García <
> daniel.mustie...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Sure, that would be better than the other one.
>>
>> But I'd like to know which module shows strings like those, to see how we
>> translated them. Maybe that could give us a clue about how to do it in
>> friulian
>>
>> 2016-06-29 16:39 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
>>
>>> Maybe " el primer día de " ?
>>> Just searched on the net...
>>>
>>> Il mer giu 29 08:49:39 2016 GMT+0200, Daniel Mustieles García scrive:
>>> > Where have you seen those strings?
>>> >
>>> > The second one doesn't seem to be right... I should check it with the
>>> > original string, but that's not completely correct in spanish.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>> > 2016-06-29 7:58 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
>>> >
>>> > > I searched around infos, and I found that SPANISH is similar to
>>> friulian
>>> > > in this problem:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > *el 29 de febrero de 1996*
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > *el primero de febrero de 1996*
>>> > > they use articles (but always in singular form) before the date, but
>>> it
>>> > > seems that in po file they use no articles before the day (they
>>> still use
>>> > > the "of" before moth and year);
>>> > > anyway they do not use the different number (ordinal for 1st) and
>>> cardinal
>>> > > for the other days in the po file.
>>> > > Does someone who translate from spanish has already tried to resolve
>>> this
>>> > > problem with the date?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > 2016-06-27 16:36 GMT+02:00 Ask Hjorth Larsen :
>>> > >
>>> > >> Hi Fabio (re-added i18n, please reply to lits)
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Still, it's an irregularity where the text surrounding a number
>>> > >> depends on the number.  This exists in gettext only as the standard
>>> > >> plural form feature.  Fixing it would require multiple such
>>> > >> mechanisms: One for singular/plural, one for dates, one for
>>> ordinals,
>>> > >> ...
>>> > >>
>>> > >> It is not straightforward and would have to be added to gettext, and
>>> > >> would propagate to GNOME and other projects in a matter of years -
>>> as
>>> > >> far as I can tell.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Best regards
>>> > >> Ask
>>> > >>
>>> > >> 2016-06-27 14:04 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
>>> > >> > In friulian only the date needs this. Ordinals and cardinals
>>> numbers
>>> > >> are just like other languages.
>>> > >> > So there are 1,2,3,4... And 1st,2nd,3rd...
>>> > >> > But when we talk about dates the first day of the month is "at the
>>> > >> first of june..." then we have  "at the 2 of..."
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Il lun giu 27 11:29:00 2016 GMT+0200, Ask Hjorth Larsen scrive:
>>> > >> >> But this is more complicated because there is only one plural
>>> > >> mechanism,
>>> > >> >> and even English needs a separate mechanism to write things like
>>> 1st,
>>> > >> 2nd,
>>> > >> >> 3rd and 4th.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> El 27/06/2016 07:14, "Rafael Fontenelle" >> >
>>> > >> escribió:
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> >
>>> > >> >> > 2016-06-26 2:50 GMT-03:00 Fabio Tomat :
>>> > >> >> >
>>> > >> >> >> Greetings community,
>>> > >> >> >> with gnome 3.20 I modified the dates in gnome as best as I
>>> could,
>>> > >> but the
>>> > >> >> >> right form of the date is this:
>>> > >> >> >>
>>> > >> >> >> al 1ⁿ di jugn dal 2016  literally translated:  at
>>> the(singular)
>>> > >> 1ˢᵗ
>>> > >> >> >> of June of the 2016
>>> > >> >> >> ai 25 di jugn dal 2016 literally translated:  at
>>> the(plural) 25
>>> > >> of
>>> > >> >> >> June of the 2016
>>> > >> >> >>
>>> > >> >> >> I don't know how to implement this.
>>> > >> >> >> the big problem (in the translated software) is specify if
>>> it's the
>>> > >> first
>>> > >> >> >> day of the month or one of the remaining days.
>>> > >> >> >>
>>> > >> >> >> Can someone help me resolve this problem, what should I do?
>>> > >> >> >>
>>> > >> >> >> ___
>>> > >> >> >> gnome-i18n mailing list
>>> > >> >> >> gnome-i18n@gnome.org
>>> > >> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
>>> > >> >> >>
>>> > >> >> >>
>>> > >> >> > Hi there.
>>> > >> >> >
>>> > >> >> > I don't think 'date' support formatting date output with a
>>> > >> superscript
>>> > >> >> > character (or something like that) to denote first day of
>>> month. At
>>> > >> least
>>> > >> >> > I've got no success with 'date --date 2016-06-01 +%e' or 'date
>>> --date
>>> > >> >> > 2016-06-01 +%d'
>>> > >> >> >
>>> > 

Re: date in friulian

[Fabio Tomat]

the fact is that no spanish translated module used that form, just
"ordinal_number de mes de año", I asked if you faced the problem or
 not. That's all. :)
for example in gnome-shell spanish this string:

msgid "%B %d %Y, %H∶%M"
is translated as:
msgstr "%d de %B de %Y, %H∶%M"



2016-06-29 16:43 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mustieles García <
daniel.mustie...@gmail.com>:

> Sure, that would be better than the other one.
>
> But I'd like to know which module shows strings like those, to see how we
> translated them. Maybe that could give us a clue about how to do it in
> friulian
>
> 2016-06-29 16:39 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
>
>> Maybe " el primer día de " ?
>> Just searched on the net...
>>
>> Il mer giu 29 08:49:39 2016 GMT+0200, Daniel Mustieles García scrive:
>> > Where have you seen those strings?
>> >
>> > The second one doesn't seem to be right... I should check it with the
>> > original string, but that's not completely correct in spanish.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > 2016-06-29 7:58 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
>> >
>> > > I searched around infos, and I found that SPANISH is similar to
>> friulian
>> > > in this problem:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *el 29 de febrero de 1996*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *el primero de febrero de 1996*
>> > > they use articles (but always in singular form) before the date, but
>> it
>> > > seems that in po file they use no articles before the day (they still
>> use
>> > > the "of" before moth and year);
>> > > anyway they do not use the different number (ordinal for 1st) and
>> cardinal
>> > > for the other days in the po file.
>> > > Does someone who translate from spanish has already tried to resolve
>> this
>> > > problem with the date?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2016-06-27 16:36 GMT+02:00 Ask Hjorth Larsen :
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Fabio (re-added i18n, please reply to lits)
>> > >>
>> > >> Still, it's an irregularity where the text surrounding a number
>> > >> depends on the number.  This exists in gettext only as the standard
>> > >> plural form feature.  Fixing it would require multiple such
>> > >> mechanisms: One for singular/plural, one for dates, one for ordinals,
>> > >> ...
>> > >>
>> > >> It is not straightforward and would have to be added to gettext, and
>> > >> would propagate to GNOME and other projects in a matter of years - as
>> > >> far as I can tell.
>> > >>
>> > >> Best regards
>> > >> Ask
>> > >>
>> > >> 2016-06-27 14:04 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
>> > >> > In friulian only the date needs this. Ordinals and cardinals
>> numbers
>> > >> are just like other languages.
>> > >> > So there are 1,2,3,4... And 1st,2nd,3rd...
>> > >> > But when we talk about dates the first day of the month is "at the
>> > >> first of june..." then we have  "at the 2 of..."
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Il lun giu 27 11:29:00 2016 GMT+0200, Ask Hjorth Larsen scrive:
>> > >> >> But this is more complicated because there is only one plural
>> > >> mechanism,
>> > >> >> and even English needs a separate mechanism to write things like
>> 1st,
>> > >> 2nd,
>> > >> >> 3rd and 4th.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> El 27/06/2016 07:14, "Rafael Fontenelle" 
>> > >> escribió:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > 2016-06-26 2:50 GMT-03:00 Fabio Tomat :
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> Greetings community,
>> > >> >> >> with gnome 3.20 I modified the dates in gnome as best as I
>> could,
>> > >> but the
>> > >> >> >> right form of the date is this:
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> al 1ⁿ di jugn dal 2016  literally translated:  at
>> the(singular)
>> > >> 1ˢᵗ
>> > >> >> >> of June of the 2016
>> > >> >> >> ai 25 di jugn dal 2016 literally translated:  at
>> the(plural) 25
>> > >> of
>> > >> >> >> June of the 2016
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> I don't know how to implement this.
>> > >> >> >> the big problem (in the translated software) is specify if
>> it's the
>> > >> first
>> > >> >> >> day of the month or one of the remaining days.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Can someone help me resolve this problem, what should I do?
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> ___
>> > >> >> >> gnome-i18n mailing list
>> > >> >> >> gnome-i18n@gnome.org
>> > >> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> > Hi there.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I don't think 'date' support formatting date output with a
>> > >> superscript
>> > >> >> > character (or something like that) to denote first day of
>> month. At
>> > >> least
>> > >> >> > I've got no success with 'date --date 2016-06-01 +%e' or 'date
>> --date
>> > >> >> > 2016-06-01 +%d'
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I believe your question is typically related to Gettext's
>> > >> Plural-Forms, as
>> > >> >> > you have one form in singular and another in plural.  My
>> suggestion
>> > >> is to
>> > >> >> > file a bug report to the proper module (gnome-shell?) to support
>> > >> such date
>> > >> >> > format.
>> > >> 

Re: date in friulian

[Daniel Mustieles García]

Sure, that would be better than the other one.

But I'd like to know which module shows strings like those, to see how we
translated them. Maybe that could give us a clue about how to do it in
friulian

2016-06-29 16:39 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :

> Maybe " el primer día de " ?
> Just searched on the net...
>
> Il mer giu 29 08:49:39 2016 GMT+0200, Daniel Mustieles García scrive:
> > Where have you seen those strings?
> >
> > The second one doesn't seem to be right... I should check it with the
> > original string, but that's not completely correct in spanish.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > 2016-06-29 7:58 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
> >
> > > I searched around infos, and I found that SPANISH is similar to
> friulian
> > > in this problem:
> > >
> > >
> > > *el 29 de febrero de 1996*
> > >
> > >
> > > *el primero de febrero de 1996*
> > > they use articles (but always in singular form) before the date, but it
> > > seems that in po file they use no articles before the day (they still
> use
> > > the "of" before moth and year);
> > > anyway they do not use the different number (ordinal for 1st) and
> cardinal
> > > for the other days in the po file.
> > > Does someone who translate from spanish has already tried to resolve
> this
> > > problem with the date?
> > >
> > >
> > > 2016-06-27 16:36 GMT+02:00 Ask Hjorth Larsen :
> > >
> > >> Hi Fabio (re-added i18n, please reply to lits)
> > >>
> > >> Still, it's an irregularity where the text surrounding a number
> > >> depends on the number.  This exists in gettext only as the standard
> > >> plural form feature.  Fixing it would require multiple such
> > >> mechanisms: One for singular/plural, one for dates, one for ordinals,
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >> It is not straightforward and would have to be added to gettext, and
> > >> would propagate to GNOME and other projects in a matter of years - as
> > >> far as I can tell.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards
> > >> Ask
> > >>
> > >> 2016-06-27 14:04 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
> > >> > In friulian only the date needs this. Ordinals and cardinals numbers
> > >> are just like other languages.
> > >> > So there are 1,2,3,4... And 1st,2nd,3rd...
> > >> > But when we talk about dates the first day of the month is "at the
> > >> first of june..." then we have  "at the 2 of..."
> > >> >
> > >> > Il lun giu 27 11:29:00 2016 GMT+0200, Ask Hjorth Larsen scrive:
> > >> >> But this is more complicated because there is only one plural
> > >> mechanism,
> > >> >> and even English needs a separate mechanism to write things like
> 1st,
> > >> 2nd,
> > >> >> 3rd and 4th.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> El 27/06/2016 07:14, "Rafael Fontenelle" 
> > >> escribió:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > 2016-06-26 2:50 GMT-03:00 Fabio Tomat :
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> Greetings community,
> > >> >> >> with gnome 3.20 I modified the dates in gnome as best as I
> could,
> > >> but the
> > >> >> >> right form of the date is this:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> al 1ⁿ di jugn dal 2016  literally translated:  at
> the(singular)
> > >> 1ˢᵗ
> > >> >> >> of June of the 2016
> > >> >> >> ai 25 di jugn dal 2016 literally translated:  at
> the(plural) 25
> > >> of
> > >> >> >> June of the 2016
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> I don't know how to implement this.
> > >> >> >> the big problem (in the translated software) is specify if it's
> the
> > >> first
> > >> >> >> day of the month or one of the remaining days.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Can someone help me resolve this problem, what should I do?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> ___
> > >> >> >> gnome-i18n mailing list
> > >> >> >> gnome-i18n@gnome.org
> > >> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> > Hi there.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I don't think 'date' support formatting date output with a
> > >> superscript
> > >> >> > character (or something like that) to denote first day of month.
> At
> > >> least
> > >> >> > I've got no success with 'date --date 2016-06-01 +%e' or 'date
> --date
> > >> >> > 2016-06-01 +%d'
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I believe your question is typically related to Gettext's
> > >> Plural-Forms, as
> > >> >> > you have one form in singular and another in plural.  My
> suggestion
> > >> is to
> > >> >> > file a bug report to the proper module (gnome-shell?) to support
> > >> such date
> > >> >> > format.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Rafael Fontenelle
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ___
> > >> >> > gnome-i18n mailing list
> > >> >> > gnome-i18n@gnome.org
> > >> >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Inviato dal mio Jolla
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > ___
> > > gnome-i18n mailing list
> > > gnome-i18n@gnome.org
> > > 

Re: date in friulian

[Fabio Tomat]

Maybe " el primer día de " ?
Just searched on the net...

Il mer giu 29 08:49:39 2016 GMT+0200, Daniel Mustieles García scrive:
> Where have you seen those strings?
> 
> The second one doesn't seem to be right... I should check it with the
> original string, but that's not completely correct in spanish.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 2016-06-29 7:58 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
> 
> > I searched around infos, and I found that SPANISH is similar to friulian
> > in this problem:
> >
> >
> > *el 29 de febrero de 1996*
> >
> >
> > *el primero de febrero de 1996*
> > they use articles (but always in singular form) before the date, but it
> > seems that in po file they use no articles before the day (they still use
> > the "of" before moth and year);
> > anyway they do not use the different number (ordinal for 1st) and cardinal
> > for the other days in the po file.
> > Does someone who translate from spanish has already tried to resolve this
> > problem with the date?
> >
> >
> > 2016-06-27 16:36 GMT+02:00 Ask Hjorth Larsen :
> >
> >> Hi Fabio (re-added i18n, please reply to lits)
> >>
> >> Still, it's an irregularity where the text surrounding a number
> >> depends on the number.  This exists in gettext only as the standard
> >> plural form feature.  Fixing it would require multiple such
> >> mechanisms: One for singular/plural, one for dates, one for ordinals,
> >> ...
> >>
> >> It is not straightforward and would have to be added to gettext, and
> >> would propagate to GNOME and other projects in a matter of years - as
> >> far as I can tell.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Ask
> >>
> >> 2016-06-27 14:04 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
> >> > In friulian only the date needs this. Ordinals and cardinals numbers
> >> are just like other languages.
> >> > So there are 1,2,3,4... And 1st,2nd,3rd...
> >> > But when we talk about dates the first day of the month is "at the
> >> first of june..." then we have  "at the 2 of..."
> >> >
> >> > Il lun giu 27 11:29:00 2016 GMT+0200, Ask Hjorth Larsen scrive:
> >> >> But this is more complicated because there is only one plural
> >> mechanism,
> >> >> and even English needs a separate mechanism to write things like 1st,
> >> 2nd,
> >> >> 3rd and 4th.
> >> >>
> >> >> El 27/06/2016 07:14, "Rafael Fontenelle" 
> >> escribió:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2016-06-26 2:50 GMT-03:00 Fabio Tomat :
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Greetings community,
> >> >> >> with gnome 3.20 I modified the dates in gnome as best as I could,
> >> but the
> >> >> >> right form of the date is this:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> al 1ⁿ di jugn dal 2016  literally translated:  at the(singular)
> >> 1ˢᵗ
> >> >> >> of June of the 2016
> >> >> >> ai 25 di jugn dal 2016 literally translated:  at the(plural) 25
> >> of
> >> >> >> June of the 2016
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I don't know how to implement this.
> >> >> >> the big problem (in the translated software) is specify if it's the
> >> first
> >> >> >> day of the month or one of the remaining days.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Can someone help me resolve this problem, what should I do?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ___
> >> >> >> gnome-i18n mailing list
> >> >> >> gnome-i18n@gnome.org
> >> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi there.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't think 'date' support formatting date output with a
> >> superscript
> >> >> > character (or something like that) to denote first day of month. At
> >> least
> >> >> > I've got no success with 'date --date 2016-06-01 +%e' or 'date --date
> >> >> > 2016-06-01 +%d'
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I believe your question is typically related to Gettext's
> >> Plural-Forms, as
> >> >> > you have one form in singular and another in plural.  My suggestion
> >> is to
> >> >> > file a bug report to the proper module (gnome-shell?) to support
> >> such date
> >> >> > format.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rafael Fontenelle
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ___
> >> >> > gnome-i18n mailing list
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Re: installation friulian

[Rafal Luzynski]

26.06.2016 07:26 Fabio Tomat  wrote:
> 
>  Good morning community.
>  I just installed Fedora 24 but as the previous releases the installation
> process was not possible in my native language (friulian). (last time it was
> possible was a fedora long long time ago). Is there a reason for not being in
> list during the installation or am I missing something?
> [...]

Fedora installation software is called Anaconda and it is not
a part of GNOME. Its translation is hosted at Zanata [1].
If you look at the list of languages supported by Zanata [2]
Friulian is not even there. So the first thing you must do is
to figure out how to add a language to Zanata. You can find
some hints here [3].

Regards,

Rafal

[1] https://fedora.zanata.org/project/view/anaconda
[2] https://fedora.zanata.org/language/list
[3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/zanata-devel/2015-March/msg7.html
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Re: date in friulian

[Daniel Mustieles García]

Where have you seen those strings?

The second one doesn't seem to be right... I should check it with the
original string, but that's not completely correct in spanish.

Thanks!

2016-06-29 7:58 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :

> I searched around infos, and I found that SPANISH is similar to friulian
> in this problem:
>
>
> *el 29 de febrero de 1996*
>
>
> *el primero de febrero de 1996*
> they use articles (but always in singular form) before the date, but it
> seems that in po file they use no articles before the day (they still use
> the "of" before moth and year);
> anyway they do not use the different number (ordinal for 1st) and cardinal
> for the other days in the po file.
> Does someone who translate from spanish has already tried to resolve this
> problem with the date?
>
>
> 2016-06-27 16:36 GMT+02:00 Ask Hjorth Larsen :
>
>> Hi Fabio (re-added i18n, please reply to lits)
>>
>> Still, it's an irregularity where the text surrounding a number
>> depends on the number.  This exists in gettext only as the standard
>> plural form feature.  Fixing it would require multiple such
>> mechanisms: One for singular/plural, one for dates, one for ordinals,
>> ...
>>
>> It is not straightforward and would have to be added to gettext, and
>> would propagate to GNOME and other projects in a matter of years - as
>> far as I can tell.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Ask
>>
>> 2016-06-27 14:04 GMT+02:00 Fabio Tomat :
>> > In friulian only the date needs this. Ordinals and cardinals numbers
>> are just like other languages.
>> > So there are 1,2,3,4... And 1st,2nd,3rd...
>> > But when we talk about dates the first day of the month is "at the
>> first of june..." then we have  "at the 2 of..."
>> >
>> > Il lun giu 27 11:29:00 2016 GMT+0200, Ask Hjorth Larsen scrive:
>> >> But this is more complicated because there is only one plural
>> mechanism,
>> >> and even English needs a separate mechanism to write things like 1st,
>> 2nd,
>> >> 3rd and 4th.
>> >>
>> >> El 27/06/2016 07:14, "Rafael Fontenelle" 
>> escribió:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > 2016-06-26 2:50 GMT-03:00 Fabio Tomat :
>> >> >
>> >> >> Greetings community,
>> >> >> with gnome 3.20 I modified the dates in gnome as best as I could,
>> but the
>> >> >> right form of the date is this:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> al 1ⁿ di jugn dal 2016  literally translated:  at the(singular)
>> 1ˢᵗ
>> >> >> of June of the 2016
>> >> >> ai 25 di jugn dal 2016 literally translated:  at the(plural) 25
>> of
>> >> >> June of the 2016
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't know how to implement this.
>> >> >> the big problem (in the translated software) is specify if it's the
>> first
>> >> >> day of the month or one of the remaining days.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can someone help me resolve this problem, what should I do?
>> >> >>
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>> >> > Hi there.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't think 'date' support formatting date output with a
>> superscript
>> >> > character (or something like that) to denote first day of month. At
>> least
>> >> > I've got no success with 'date --date 2016-06-01 +%e' or 'date --date
>> >> > 2016-06-01 +%d'
>> >> >
>> >> > I believe your question is typically related to Gettext's
>> Plural-Forms, as
>> >> > you have one form in singular and another in plural.  My suggestion
>> is to
>> >> > file a bug report to the proper module (gnome-shell?) to support
>> such date
>> >> > format.
>> >> >
>> >> > Rafael Fontenelle
>> >> >
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