[simple-scan] Created branch gnome-3-38
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Re: Technical feasibility to translate a project on Github
Hello, Thanks for this quick answer Claude. So that solves the technical feasibility. Now the audience for this question would probably be the translation coordinators: would we accept to take the responsibility of translating flatpak software? Best, Le jeu. 8 oct. 2020 à 23:12, Claude Paroz a écrit : Le 08.10.20 à 14:13, Thibault Martin a écrit : Hello, Flatpak doesn't have a proper translation platform. So far people retrieve and submit po files manually. I know Flatpak doesn’t necessarily want to be too associated with GNOME so it doesn’t shy out other systems. Still, a translation provided by one of the major DE could be an huge improvement to today’s situation. I have two questions here: * Would we accept to take responsibility of Flatpak’s translations? * Is it technically feasible for DL to handle the translations of a project stored on GitHub? If we answer "yes" to both, I would offer to Flatpak’s team to take care of their translations, which they may or may not accept. Hi Thibault, There is more or less two level of translation supports in D-L. The first one is "simply" a status of current module translations + updated pot and merged po files ready for translators to use. That's the case for all freedesktop modules. The second is ability to commit translations from the Web interface. We do not support Github currently for this feature. So I would say that hosting translation stats would be fine IMHO. Adding commit support is another story, even if it should not be so much effort (to be evaluated, still). Claude -- www.2xlibre.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Appdata translation
Hello translators, We do translate applications interfaces and documentation, but we do not translate their appdata. Given there are longer-term plans to build-up a flatpak-based kind of app store, should we not translate appdata as well (as in: application description, screenshot captions, maybe even screenshots themselves)? Do we have everything we need infrastructure-wise to do it? Is this something we intend to do at some point? And if yes, what do we need to move ahead? Best, ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
[gnome-online-accounts] Created branch gnome-3-38
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Re: Appdata translation
pt., 9 paź 2020 o 16:07 Thibault Martin napisał(a): > > Hello translators, > > We do translate applications interfaces and documentation, but we do > not translate their appdata. > Given there are longer-term plans to build-up a flatpak-based kind of > app store, should we not translate appdata as well (as in: application > description, screenshot captions, maybe even screenshots themselves)? > > Do we have everything we need infrastructure-wise to do it? Is this > something we intend to do at some point? And if yes, what do we need to > move ahead? > Hi, We do translate AppData. If a GNOME app doesn’t have AppData translated, it’s a bug. The only part of the Metainfo file we don’t expose to translation is the change log. The consensus is that it would cost us too much (time/resources etc.) compared to any potential gains. Best regards, -- Piotr Drąg https://piotrdrag.fedorapeople.org ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Appdata translation
Eh apologies, I forgot we already translate it. Dismiss that email :) Le ven. 9 oct. 2020 à 16:07, Thibault Martin a écrit : Hello translators, We do translate applications interfaces and documentation, but we do not translate their appdata. Given there are longer-term plans to build-up a flatpak-based kind of app store, should we not translate appdata as well (as in: application description, screenshot captions, maybe even screenshots themselves)? Do we have everything we need infrastructure-wise to do it? Is this something we intend to do at some point? And if yes, what do we need to move ahead? Best, ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Appdata translation
Il giorno ven 9 ott 2020 alle 16:07, Thibault Martin ha scritto: Hello translators, We do translate applications interfaces and documentation, but we do not translate their appdata. Given there are longer-term plans to build-up a flatpak-based kind of app store, should we not translate appdata as well (as in: application description, screenshot captions, maybe even screenshots themselves)? Do we have everything we need infrastructure-wise to do it? Is this something we intend to do at some point? And if yes, what do we need to move ahead? Last year we had a discussion on this topic here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/issues/149 https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2019-June/msg00015.html The conclusion was: "Translating release notes as part of the UI translations is too much a burden for GNOME translators for a small benefit. It may not be the last word on the subject, but that could be discussed on the gnome-i18n list first." I think the burden might be mitigated with some good practices: 1. App authors should write concise release notes. 2. Limit the release extraction to the latest x (2?) releases. How? Move the old release notes to the NEWS file and then regenerate the appdata file specifying how many release notes should be copied. Both appstreamcli and appstream-util have this feature IIRC. (BTW, Nice blog post by appstreamcli author: https://blog.tenstral.net/2020/03/maintain-release-info-easily-in-metainfo-files.html) GNOME apps have 2 releases per year. Each release may contain say 5 to 15 strings (?). See for example: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/fractal/-/blob/master/fractal-gtk/res/org.gnome.Fractal.metainfo.xml.in.in 10 to 30 short strings per app per year shouldn't be too cumbersome for translators. What do you think? ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Fwd: Submit Help Translation on GNOME Terminal
Sorry I'm sick, can not explain right now. Will continue discussion after I have recovered. On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 6:11 PM Daniel Mustieles García < daniel.mustie...@gmail.com> wrote: > Mmmm... that's very strange. Does it happens only in this module or are > other modules affected by this behaviour? > > I have no problem to directly commit gnome-terminal's PO file into git, > but if something in DL is not working properly then we should ask Claude to > review it > > El mar., 6 oct. 2020 a las 12:56, Andika Triwidada () > escribió: > >> Problem is, no option exist (on DL's pulldown) to submit it >> >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 12:18 PM Daniel Mustieles García < >> daniel.mustie...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't think so... just see PO file is not committed, just reserved to >>> submit. Please submit it and will see if it works. If it doesn't just let >>> me know and will help you with it. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> El lun., 5 oct. 2020 a las 17:15, Andika Triwidada () >>> escribió: >>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 2:20 PM Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n < gnome-i18n@gnome.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I've added the "id" language to both 3.38 and master branches so now > you should be able to add your translations (and also reuse the 3.38 PO > file in master to save some time). > maybe we need to create "id" subdirectory too? or even an empty help/id/id.po? > > It seems that DL it not taking this change and trying to manually > update branches page gives a Timeout. > > @Claude Paroz could you please review this? > > Thanks! > > El lun., 5 oct. 2020 a las 8:51, Claude Paroz () > escribió: > >> Le 05.10.20 à 05:17, Kukuh Syafaat via gnome-i18n a écrit : >> > Hi all, >> > >> > The Indonesian team has recently submitted gnome-terminal help >> > translation to damned-lies, but the po statistics is still 0% [0]. >> > I checked on gnome-terminal repository in GitLab [0] and there is no >> > `id` folder on help. >> > Why damned-lies did not create automatically when the translator >> > submit po for the first time? >> > Is there any workaround for this? >> > >> > Best Regards. >> > >> > [0] >> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-terminal/gnome-3-38/help/id/level1/ >> > [1] >> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-terminal/-/tree/master/help >> >> Hi Kukuh Syafaat, >> >> I guess the issue is due to using the "Inform of submission" action >> instead of the "Submit to repository" action. The former is for those >> having committed the file by an other mean that DL itself (e.g. by >> command line). >> >> However, it may be that DL didn't proposed the action because adding >> new >> translations for modules help without LINGUAS files have to be done >> "by >> hand", as machine-editing Makefiles is too brittle to be automated. >> >> I'm sure someone with GNOME Gitlab commit rights will do the action >> for >> you soon! >> >> Regards, >> >> Claude >> -- >> www.2xlibre.net >> ___ >> gnome-i18n mailing list >> gnome-i18n@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n >> > ___ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n Thanks, -- andika >>> ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Fwd: Submit Help Translation on GNOME Terminal
Ok, hope you feel better soon. Regards El sáb., 10 oct. 2020 4:59, Andika Triwidada escribió: > Sorry I'm sick, can not explain right now. Will continue discussion after > I have recovered. > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 6:11 PM Daniel Mustieles García < > daniel.mustie...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Mmmm... that's very strange. Does it happens only in this module or are >> other modules affected by this behaviour? >> >> I have no problem to directly commit gnome-terminal's PO file into git, >> but if something in DL is not working properly then we should ask Claude to >> review it >> >> El mar., 6 oct. 2020 a las 12:56, Andika Triwidada () >> escribió: >> >>> Problem is, no option exist (on DL's pulldown) to submit it >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 12:18 PM Daniel Mustieles García < >>> daniel.mustie...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I don't think so... just see PO file is not committed, just reserved to submit. Please submit it and will see if it works. If it doesn't just let me know and will help you with it. Regards El lun., 5 oct. 2020 a las 17:15, Andika Triwidada () escribió: > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 2:20 PM Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n < > gnome-i18n@gnome.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've added the "id" language to both 3.38 and master branches so now >> you should be able to add your translations (and also reuse the 3.38 PO >> file in master to save some time). >> > > maybe we need to create "id" subdirectory too? > or even an empty help/id/id.po? > > >> >> It seems that DL it not taking this change and trying to manually >> update branches page gives a Timeout. >> >> @Claude Paroz could you please review this? >> >> Thanks! >> >> El lun., 5 oct. 2020 a las 8:51, Claude Paroz () >> escribió: >> >>> Le 05.10.20 à 05:17, Kukuh Syafaat via gnome-i18n a écrit : >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > The Indonesian team has recently submitted gnome-terminal help >>> > translation to damned-lies, but the po statistics is still 0% [0]. >>> > I checked on gnome-terminal repository in GitLab [0] and there is >>> no >>> > `id` folder on help. >>> > Why damned-lies did not create automatically when the translator >>> > submit po for the first time? >>> > Is there any workaround for this? >>> > >>> > Best Regards. >>> > >>> > [0] >>> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-terminal/gnome-3-38/help/id/level1/ >>> > [1] >>> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-terminal/-/tree/master/help >>> >>> Hi Kukuh Syafaat, >>> >>> I guess the issue is due to using the "Inform of submission" action >>> instead of the "Submit to repository" action. The former is for those >>> having committed the file by an other mean that DL itself (e.g. by >>> command line). >>> >>> However, it may be that DL didn't proposed the action because adding >>> new >>> translations for modules help without LINGUAS files have to be done >>> "by >>> hand", as machine-editing Makefiles is too brittle to be automated. >>> >>> I'm sure someone with GNOME Gitlab commit rights will do the action >>> for >>> you soon! >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Claude >>> -- >>> www.2xlibre.net >>> ___ >>> gnome-i18n mailing list >>> gnome-i18n@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n >>> >> ___ >> gnome-i18n mailing list >> gnome-i18n@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n > > > Thanks, > > -- > andika > ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
