Next steps for Fractal

2022-03-28 Thread Alexandre Franke
Hello,

CCing Julian, co-maintainer of the Fractal

As some of you may know, a rewrite of Fractal has been happening for a
while now. The master branch was mostly inactive while the rewrite was
happening on the fractal-next branch. The application was not yet
usable, we didn’t even offer a nightly flatpak, and the pace of
changes was such that it didn’t make sense to put it on Damned lies
yet. We are now about to change that.

`master` will be renamed to `legacy` and `fractal-next` will be
renamed to `main`. `main` will, as the name states, become the main
branch. A nightly flatpak will be provided through the GNOME apps
nightly repository, replacing the current nightly built from `master`.
The application is not advanced enough to be considered beta, we are
not replacing the beta and stable builds from flathub. This is still
in development and we are not freezing strings yet, but we’ve reached
a point where strings are going to be moving a lot less and it makes
sense to start translating. I’ll announce when the change happens so
we can do the switcheroo on DL.

That’s for the heads up to translators. Now the question that came up
when planning this is whether we could bring back the old translations
to provide a base for translators, so they don’t have to start from
scratch if the old version was already translated. I am the first one
to say that developers should stay away from po files, but in this
case… I don’t know. Can we just copy over files from the old `po`
directory` into the new one? We aren’t going to “touch” the files and
try any magic, merging, or replacement. This would be a simple
copy-paste of the files. I think that is the same thing we’ve been
doing in the past for instance for release notes. Does that work here?

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[gnome-logs] Created branch gnome-42

2022-03-28 Thread David King
The branch 'gnome-42' was created pointing to:

 1ae4e40... Update NEWS for 42.0 release

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Re: New po files in gimp-help repository (and release soonish)

2022-03-28 Thread Jehan Pagès via gnome-i18n
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 3:12 PM Piotr Drąg  wrote:

> niedz., 27 mar 2022 o 14:55 Jehan Pagès 
> napisał(a):
> > Awesome. By the way, I was saying in my email that it was in `
> gimp-help-2-10` only. But since then I backported the change to `master`
> branch too. Did you add from both? :-)
> >
>
> Yes, I did. :)
>
> > I just tested. We extract the string with `intltool-extract` with type
> `gettext/ini`. Unfortunately the file is not actually an ini file (just
> similar), in particular comments start with `;` whereas intltool looks for
> comments starting with `#`.
> >
> > We can still do something by adding a processing step where I'd just
> remove `#` line from the InnoSetup lang file before feeding it to InnoSetup
> (and using the un-processed file for intltool tricking it into seeing an
> ini file). I'll have a look.
> >
>
> Thanks for looking into this. If you manage to make it work, it would
> be nice to adapt it to the regular GIMP installer too.
>

I implemented this and it's now in gimp-help (both gimp-help-2-10 and
master branches). When you'll update the po files, they should now have the
comments on the 2 strings with % numbers.

I'll do the same on the GIMP repository soon too.

Jehan


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Re: Please add 42 release-notes

2022-03-28 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 4:53 PM Claude Paroz  wrote:
> Le 23.03.22 à 15:07, Sophie Herold a écrit :
> > Hey!
> >
> > I created an emergency-solution to have translations for the release
> > notes. The strings are now frozen as well.
> >
> > The release notes are at
> > https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/release-notes
> >
> > - po-homepage contains general homepage strings
> > - po-42 containts the strings for the 42 release notes
> >
> > Can someone add this to damned lies?
>
> Hi Sophie,
>
> What's your strategy about branching?
>
> There used to be a branch per release, now I struggle to see any
> structure in existing branches.

I don’t think Sophie can answer that. All she did is jump to our
rescue and set up the i18n infrastructure to solve the fact the new
site was not translatable.

CCing Jakub. I think he did the set up for the new site, and he seems
a better fit for the branching question.


> Frankly, it looks like all work done by translators in past releases in
> release branches was wiped out. Doesn't look very fair to me.

Yes, although if you look at the new content, it is vastly different
and it doesn’t seem like there would be that much in common between
the old and new site.

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Re: Please add 42 release-notes

2022-03-28 Thread Claude Paroz

Le 23.03.22 à 15:07, Sophie Herold a écrit :

Hey!

I created an emergency-solution to have translations for the release 
notes. The strings are now frozen as well.


The release notes are at 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/release-notes


- po-homepage contains general homepage strings
- po-42 containts the strings for the 42 release notes

Can someone add this to damned lies?


Hi Sophie,

What's your strategy about branching?

There used to be a branch per release, now I struggle to see any 
structure in existing branches.


Frankly, it looks like all work done by translators in past releases in 
release branches was wiped out. Doesn't look very fair to me.


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Re: Please add 42 release-notes

2022-03-28 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n
Hi Rafael

There is no need to have a single "po" folder. If you see libgweather, for
example, it has two folders: po and po-locations.

As Alexandre has said it might be something related with the method used to
generate the pot file in the repo.

I hope we can solve this soon.

Regards

El dom, 27 mar 2022 a las 12:36, Rafael Fontenelle ()
escribió:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> I see that there are 2 po folders ("po-42" and "po-homepage"), and I think
> Damned Lies looks for "po" directory [1]. 樂
>
> [1]
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/blob/master/stats/management/commands/compile-trans.py#L23
>
> Rafael
>
> Em dom, 27 de mar de 2022 06:20, Daniel Mustieles García <
> daniel.mustie...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> I'm trying to add it to DL but stats are not shown... don't know why this
>> happens.
>>
>> Could someone take a look into this? If I've done something wrong please
>> excuse me, just tried to help.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> El sáb, 26 mar 2022 a las 1:42, Rafael Fontenelle ()
>> escribió:
>>
>>> I'd love to see it in Damned Lies. Can the i18n coordinators consider
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Rafael Fontenelle
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 11:07 AM Sophie Herold  wrote:
>>>
 Hey!

 I created an emergency-solution to have translations for the release
 notes. The strings are now frozen as well.

 The release notes are at
 https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/release-notes

 - po-homepage contains general homepage strings
 - po-42 containts the strings for the 42 release notes

 Can someone add this to damned lies?

 The new page is available at

 https://release.gnome.org/

 Best,
 Sophie


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Re: Please add 42 release-notes

2022-03-28 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 11:20 AM Daniel Mustieles García via
gnome-i18n  wrote:
> I'm trying to add it to DL but stats are not shown... don't know why this 
> happens.
>
> Could someone take a look into this? If I've done something wrong please 
> excuse me, just tried to help.

I had a look and compared to other modules. I haven’t that much either
so I am not sure how it should be set, but it looks ok. I don’t know
if the auto-detect feature for the po generation is supposed to work
with the config in that repo though.

Sophie, what is the command you run to generate a pot file?

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