[system-monitor] string changes
Hello everyone,
here's the summary of string changes in system-monitor since 2.21.4.
We have flip/flapped some strings, forget to i18n some new file, etc ...
sorry for the inconvenience.
Thanks.
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/tmp/tag/po/gnome-system-monitor.pot contains 214 messages
po/gnome-system-monitor.pot contains 223 messages
---
New Message:
'The title of the color selection dialog'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Title'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Pick a Color'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Percentage full for pie colour pickers'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'%u seconds'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Type of color picker'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Current Color'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Fraction'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'_Refresh'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Receiving'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Total Sent'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'('
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'The selected color'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'iN/A/i'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Total Received'
Translation:
''
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New Message:
'Sending'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Swap'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Refresh the process list'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'CPU'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'Received invalid color data\n'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
'CPU%d'
Translation:
''
---
New Message:
')'
Translation:
''
---
Modified Message:
''
Old:
'Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\nReport-Msgid-Bugs-To:
\nPOT-Creation-Date: 2008-01-04 01:23+0100\nPO-Revision-Date:
YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\nLast-Translator: FULL NAME
[EMAIL PROTECTED]\nLanguage-Team: LANGUAGE [EMAIL
PROTECTED]\nMIME-Version:
1.0\nContent-Type: text/plain;
charset=CHARSET\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\nPlural-Forms:
nplurals=INTEGER; plural=EXPRESSION;\n'
New:
'Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\nReport-Msgid-Bugs-To:
\nPOT-Creation-Date: 2008-01-06 12:11+0100\nPO-Revision-Date:
YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\nLast-Translator: FULL NAME
[EMAIL PROTECTED]\nLanguage-Team: LANGUAGE [EMAIL
PROTECTED]\nMIME-Version:
1.0\nContent-Type: text/plain;
charset=CHARSET\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\nPlural-Forms:
nplurals=INTEGER; plural=EXPRESSION;\n'
---
Removed Message:
'_About'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'Prefere_nces'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'Default graph background color'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'Sent:'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'User memory:'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'%s/s'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'Received:'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'Used swap:'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'Total:'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'CPU:'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'CPU%d:'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'Default graph frame color'
Translation:
''
---
Removed Message:
'_Quit'
Translation:
''
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Re: [system-monitor] string changes
salut, Am Sonntag, den 06.01.2008, 12:14 +0100 schrieb Benoît Dejean: here's the summary of string changes in system-monitor since 2.21.4. We have flip/flapped some strings, forget to i18n some new file, etc ... sorry for the inconvenience. #: ../src/load-graph.cpp:207 msgid %u seconds this one definitely needs ngettext support, it is not possible to translate this correctly to many languages. #: ../src/interface.cpp:414 ../src/interface.cpp:471 msgid ( #: ../src/interface.cpp:417 ../src/interface.cpp:474 msgid ) what is that?! andre -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [system-monitor] string changes
Am Sonntag, den 06.01.2008, 15:05 +0100 schrieb Benoît Dejean: Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 13:15 +0100, Andre Klapper a écrit : #: ../src/load-graph.cpp:207 msgid %u seconds this one definitely needs ngettext support, it is not possible to translate this correctly to many languages. Even if it's always plural and like 10/30/60/120 seconds ? in English, a noun differs only in its singular and plural forms. that does not work for a lot of languages, so yes, please use ngettext. #: ../src/interface.cpp:414 ../src/interface.cpp:471 msgid ( #: ../src/interface.cpp:417 ../src/interface.cpp:474 msgid ) what is that?! Karl ? :) --andre -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [system-monitor] string changes
Em Dom, 2008-01-06 às 15:05 +0100, Benoît Dejean escreveu: Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 13:15 +0100, Andre Klapper a écrit : #: ../src/load-graph.cpp:207 msgid %u seconds this one definitely needs ngettext support, it is not possible to translate this correctly to many languages. Even if it's always plural and like 10/30/60/120 seconds ? Some languages have 9 plural forms :) Yes, go with ngettext, please. Leonardo Fontenelle http://leonardof.org/2008/01/05/syntax-highlighting-and-spell-checker-for-gettext-in-vim/en/ ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [system-monitor] string changes
Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 15:22 +0100, Andre Klapper a écrit : Am Sonntag, den 06.01.2008, 15:05 +0100 schrieb Benoît Dejean: Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 13:15 +0100, Andre Klapper a écrit : #: ../src/load-graph.cpp:207 msgid %u seconds this one definitely needs ngettext support, it is not possible to translate this correctly to many languages. Even if it's always plural and like 10/30/60/120 seconds ? in English, a noun differs only in its singular and plural forms. that does not work for a lot of languages, so yes, please use ngettext. I know, but i don't get it. If i read you correctly, we should then use ngettext on every string with a plural. #: ../src/interface.cpp:414 ../src/interface.cpp:471 msgid ( #: ../src/interface.cpp:417 ../src/interface.cpp:474 msgid ) what is that?! Karl ? :) I've fixed this one. -- Benoît Dejean GNOME http://www.gnomefr.org/ LibGTop http://directory.fsf.org/libgtop.html +++ ./gnome-system-monitor.pot 2008-01-04 01:23:47.0 +0100 +msgid ( +msgid ) -msgid _About +msgid color_set -msgid Configure the application +msgid Configure the application -msgid CPU: +msgid CPU -msgid CPU%d: +msgid CPU%d +msgid Current Color -msgid Default graph background color -msgid Default graph frame color -msgid _End Process -msgid End _Process +msgid _End Process +msgid End _Process +msgid Fraction -msgid Memory +msgid Memory +msgid Percentage full for pie colour pickers +msgid Pick a Color -msgid Prefere_nces -msgid _Quit -msgid Received: +msgid Received invalid color data\n +msgid Receiving +msgid _Refresh +msgid Refresh the process list -msgid Search for open files +msgid Search for open files -msgid Search for _Open Files +msgid Search for _Open Files +msgid seconds +msgid Sending -msgid Sent: -msgid %s/s +msgid %s/s +msgid Swap +msgid The selected color +msgid The title of the color selection dialog +msgid Title -msgid Total: +msgid Total Received +msgid Total Sent +msgid Type of color picker -msgid Used swap: -msgid User memory: --- ../../tag/po/gnome-system-monitor.pot 2008-01-04 01:23:17.0 +0100 signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [system-monitor] string changes
i should have pointed at
http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/DevGuidelines/Plurals earlier.
i think everything is also perfectly described other there... :-)
Am Sonntag, den 06.01.2008, 17:06 +0100 schrieb Benoît Dejean:
Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 15:22 +0100, Andre Klapper a écrit :
in English, a noun differs only in its singular and plural forms. that
does not work for a lot of languages, so yes, please use ngettext.
I know, but i don't get it.
If i read you correctly, we should then use ngettext on every string
with a plural.
no, because languages have only one word for a non-defined number of
things, like when you write windows, without any number or %u in
front of it.
the problem is when you have a string like %u windows. even if it
always plural, you must use ngettext because for example in czech, the
translation of %u seconds is %u okna for 2 %u 4 and %u oken
for %u = 5. it totally depends on the value of %u, that is what
ngettext is about.
see in gnome-system-monitor/trunk/po/cs.po:
Plural-Forms: nplurals=3; plural=(n==1) ? 0 : (n=2 n=4) ? 1 : 2;\n
or in gnome-system-monitor/trunk/po/ar.po:
Plural-Forms: nplurals=4; plural=n==1 ? 0 : n==2 ? 1 : n=3 n=10 ? 2 : 3\n
or in gnome-system-monitor/trunk/po/sl.po:
Plural-Forms: nplurals=4; plural=(n%100==1 ? 1 : n%100==2 ? 2 : n%100==3 ||
n%100==4 ? 3 : 0);\n
another example (cannot come up with an explicit language though): some
languages may also have different words for windows in the cases of
{1,11,21,31,...}windows and {2,12,22,32,...}windows.
andre
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Re: [system-monitor] string changes
Andre Klapper explained it well. In short, if your plural noun is quantified using a variable (e.g %d) then please use plural forms. Djihed On Jan 6, 2008 4:06 PM, Benoît Dejean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 15:22 +0100, Andre Klapper a écrit : Am Sonntag, den 06.01.2008, 15:05 +0100 schrieb Benoît Dejean: Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 13:15 +0100, Andre Klapper a écrit : #: ../src/load-graph.cpp:207 msgid %u seconds this one definitely needs ngettext support, it is not possible to translate this correctly to many languages. Even if it's always plural and like 10/30/60/120 seconds ? in English, a noun differs only in its singular and plural forms. that does not work for a lot of languages, so yes, please use ngettext. I know, but i don't get it. If i read you correctly, we should then use ngettext on every string with a plural. #: ../src/interface.cpp:414 ../src/interface.cpp:471 msgid ( #: ../src/interface.cpp:417 ../src/interface.cpp:474 msgid ) what is that?! Karl ? :) I've fixed this one. -- Benoît Dejean GNOME http://www.gnomefr.org/ LibGTop http://directory.fsf.org/libgtop.html ___ gnome-doc-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [system-monitor] string changes
Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 18:31 +0100, Andre Klapper a écrit : i should have pointed at http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/DevGuidelines/Plurals earlier. i think everything is also perfectly described other there... :-) For this string, using : ngettext(, %u second, %u seconds, seconds) would add the singular form to be translated, which is totally unneeded because singular never happens. so ngettext(X, %u seconds, %u seconds, seconds) ? -- Benoît Dejean GNOME http://www.gnomefr.org/ LibGTop http://directory.fsf.org/libgtop.html signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [system-monitor] string changes
salut, Am Sonntag, den 06.01.2008, 18:55 +0100 schrieb Benoît Dejean: For this string, using : ngettext(, %u second, %u seconds, seconds) would add the singular form to be translated, which is totally unneeded because singular never happens. so ngettext(X, %u seconds, %u seconds, seconds) ? no, because ngettext's default is english and therefore expects the first string to be singular and the second one as plural, afaics. please use ngettext(, %u second, %u seconds, seconds). thanks, andre :) -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [system-monitor] string changes
Le dimanche 06 janvier 2008 à 20:46 +0100, Andre Klapper a écrit : no, because ngettext's default is english and therefore expects the first string to be singular and the second one as plural, afaics. please use ngettext(, %u second, %u seconds, seconds). done -- Benoît Dejean GNOME http://www.gnomefr.org/ LibGTop http://directory.fsf.org/libgtop.html signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
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