3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-18 Thread Allan Day
Hi everyone!

The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised, so it can
now be translated. Unfortunately, the screenshots are not complete,
but that will happen in the next day or two. The release itself is
scheduled for 26 March.

The notes can be found in the 3.12 branch of the release-notes module:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/?h=gnome-3-12

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks!

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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-19 Thread Daniel Mustieles García
Thanks Allan for the info.

Could somebody from i18n make it available in DL?

Happy translating!


2014-03-18 23:45 GMT+01:00 Allan Day :

> Hi everyone!
>
> The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised, so it can
> now be translated. Unfortunately, the screenshots are not complete,
> but that will happen in the next day or two. The release itself is
> scheduled for 26 March.
>
> The notes can be found in the 3.12 branch of the release-notes module:
>
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/?h=gnome-3-12
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Allan
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-19 Thread Piotr Drąg
2014-03-19 12:13 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mustieles García :
> Thanks Allan for the info.
>
> Could somebody from i18n make it available in DL?
>

I've added it to Damned Lies a couple of days ago, but forgot to add
it to the GNOME Infrastructure set when Allan announced it's ready.
I've done it now. Thanks for a reminder!

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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-19 Thread Daniel Mustieles García
Thanks to you for doing the job! :)


2014-03-19 15:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Drąg :

> 2014-03-19 12:13 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mustieles García <
> daniel.mustie...@gmail.com>:
> > Thanks Allan for the info.
> >
> > Could somebody from i18n make it available in DL?
> >
>
> I've added it to Damned Lies a couple of days ago, but forgot to add
> it to the GNOME Infrastructure set when Allan announced it's ready.
> I've done it now. Thanks for a reminder!
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-19 Thread Daniel Mustieles García
Thanks to you for doing the job! :)


2014-03-19 15:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Drąg :

> 2014-03-19 12:13 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mustieles García <
> daniel.mustie...@gmail.com>:
> > Thanks Allan for the info.
> >
> > Could somebody from i18n make it available in DL?
> >
>
> I've added it to Damned Lies a couple of days ago, but forgot to add
> it to the GNOME Infrastructure set when Allan announced it's ready.
> I've done it now. Thanks for a reminder!
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
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> http://raven.fedorapeople.org/
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 22:45 +, Allan Day wrote:
> The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised

Allan: "The release contains 34786 changes by approximately 985
contributors.": 
If 3.12 does not magically have the same numbers as  3.10, I doubt that
the release-notes are "finalised" or string frozen.

Also, did you update the list of languages on
https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/i18n.html ?

I really doubt that GNOME provides 80% translation coverage for 50
languages nowadays, but this is stated on that page.

I'm missing Slovak in that list.
And I see languages like Asturian, Arabic, Estonian, Gujarati, Kannada,
Malayalam, Marathi, Oriya, Romanian, Thai, Turkish, Vietnamese listed
(not a problem as they can be commented out quickly before the 3.12.0
release).
These languages have been constantly losing translation coverage over
the last two years (if anybody wants to discuss outreach which is
another topic).

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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-25 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 20:35 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 22:45 +, Allan Day wrote:
> > The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised

Allan: Text currently states
"The release contains 34786 changes by approximately 985 contributors."

Up-to-date numbers (feel free to include) are: 
* 34236 commits in git master of all repositories in GNOME Git 
  since 2013-09-25
* 1140 unique authors

Still missing Slovak in
https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/i18n.html

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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-25 Thread Jiro Matsuzawa
Hi Allan and all,

Thank you for the great work.

The release notes had a build error. It was a simple problem, so I
fixed it and pushed [1]. If I made any mistakes, would you please
revert it? Thanks in advance.

[1] 
https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-12&id=055deb44dbb4e0b599d107f9101df42ff7a47284



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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-26 Thread Allan Day
Thanks Jiro!

Allan

On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jiro Matsuzawa  wrote:
> Hi Allan and all,
>
> Thank you for the great work.
>
> The release notes had a build error. It was a simple problem, so I
> fixed it and pushed [1]. If I made any mistakes, would you please
> revert it? Thanks in advance.
>
> [1] 
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-12&id=055deb44dbb4e0b599d107f9101df42ff7a47284
>
>
>
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-26 Thread Allan Day
Hey Andre,

Andre Klapper  wrote:
...
> Also, did you update the list of languages on
> https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/i18n.html ?
>
> I really doubt that GNOME provides 80% translation coverage for 50
> languages nowadays, but this is stated on that page.

I just updated the language list and the statistics. I hope it's OK:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-12&id=1ac8160123b4b39cfab09766f080e7ef425f218e

> I'm missing Slovak in that list.

Yes that's a real shame. I copied over the list from last release
(should have checked that)... I've made a note to fix this for next
cycle. In the mean time I'm not sure what to do. I've left Slovak out
of the list for fear of breaking translations at this late stage. If
people think it's OK to add it, I will.

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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-26 Thread Allan Day
Andre Klapper  wrote:
...
> Up-to-date numbers (feel free to include) are:
> * 34236 commits in git master of all repositories in GNOME Git
>   since 2013-09-25
> * 1140 unique authors
...

Thanks so much for these numbers, Andre. I've updated the notes with them:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-12&id=18fc1229de0cdcfff3f3365eb26b2bafc2e681cd

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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-26 Thread Daniel Mustieles García
Which should be the Slovak translation percentage at this moment?

If it's added, I can check translation syntax, to avoid problems when
building the module, but if the percentage is being near to 0%, maybe we
should left it out...


2014-03-26 11:42 GMT+01:00 Allan Day :

> Hey Andre,
>
> Andre Klapper  wrote:
> ...
> > Also, did you update the list of languages on
> > https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/i18n.html ?
> >
> > I really doubt that GNOME provides 80% translation coverage for 50
> > languages nowadays, but this is stated on that page.
>
> I just updated the language list and the statistics. I hope it's OK:
>
>
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-12&id=1ac8160123b4b39cfab09766f080e7ef425f218e
>
> > I'm missing Slovak in that list.
>
> Yes that's a real shame. I copied over the list from last release
> (should have checked that)... I've made a note to fix this for next
> cycle. In the mean time I'm not sure what to do. I've left Slovak out
> of the list for fear of breaking translations at this late stage. If
> people think it's OK to add it, I will.
>
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-26 Thread Allan Day
Daniel Mustieles García  wrote:
> Which should be the Slovak translation percentage at this moment?
>
> If it's added, I can check translation syntax, to avoid problems when
> building the module, but if the percentage is being near to 0%, maybe we
> should left it out...

Slovak is at 90%, which means that it should be on the list of
supported languages. The "Slovak" string won't have been translated
though.

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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-26 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Allan Day  wrote:
> Daniel Mustieles García  wrote:
>> Which should be the Slovak translation percentage at this moment?
>>
>> If it's added, I can check translation syntax, to avoid problems when
>> building the module, but if the percentage is being near to 0%, maybe we
>> should left it out...
>
> Slovak is at 90%, which means that it should be on the list of
> supported languages. The "Slovak" string won't have been translated
> though.

If your concern is just that "Slovak" appears untranslated, please go
ahead and add it ASAP. :-)

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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-26 Thread Daniel Mustieles García
Sure... please include it

Thanks!


2014-03-26 12:29 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Franke :

> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Allan Day  wrote:
> > Daniel Mustieles García  wrote:
> >> Which should be the Slovak translation percentage at this moment?
> >>
> >> If it's added, I can check translation syntax, to avoid problems when
> >> building the module, but if the percentage is being near to 0%, maybe we
> >> should left it out...
> >
> > Slovak is at 90%, which means that it should be on the list of
> > supported languages. The "Slovak" string won't have been translated
> > though.
>
> If your concern is just that "Slovak" appears untranslated, please go
> ahead and add it ASAP. :-)
>
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-26 Thread Allan Day
Done! Thanks for your help everyone!

Allan

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Daniel Mustieles García
 wrote:
> Sure... please include it
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> 2014-03-26 12:29 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Franke :
>
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Allan Day  wrote:
>> > Daniel Mustieles García  wrote:
>> >> Which should be the Slovak translation percentage at this moment?
>> >>
>> >> If it's added, I can check translation syntax, to avoid problems when
>> >> building the module, but if the percentage is being near to 0%, maybe
>> >> we
>> >> should left it out...
>> >
>> > Slovak is at 90%, which means that it should be on the list of
>> > supported languages. The "Slovak" string won't have been translated
>> > though.
>>
>> If your concern is just that "Slovak" appears untranslated, please go
>> ahead and add it ASAP. :-)
>>
>> --
>> Alexandre Franke
>
>
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-27 Thread Marek Černocký
Release notes 3.12 are not translated to the Slovak language. User
visiting https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ see the Slovak
release notes for 3.10 instead the English version for 3.12. It's wrong.


Allan Day píše v Út 18. 03. 2014 v 22:45 +:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised, so it can
> now be translated. Unfortunately, the screenshots are not complete,
> but that will happen in the next day or two. The release itself is
> scheduled for 26 March.
> 
> The notes can be found in the 3.12 branch of the release-notes module:
> 
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/?h=gnome-3-12
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-27 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi Marek,

Marek Černocký wrote:
> Release notes 3.12 are not translated to the Slovak language. User
> visiting https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ see the Slovak
> release notes for 3.10 instead the English version for 3.12. It's wrong.

Indeed, the way branching happened on the server caused that, thanks
for noticing, I have now manually removed *.sk files (and then checked
for other languages with the problem and removed *.da, *.el, and *.id).


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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-27 Thread Rafael Ferreira
Should I see the translated version of release notes when accessing
https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ ? Just asking, because I
see it in English.  To see in my language (pt_BR) I have to append
"index.html.pt_BR" to the URL..


2014-03-27 8:59 GMT-03:00 Frederic Peters :

> Hi Marek,
>
> Marek Černocký wrote:
> > Release notes 3.12 are not translated to the Slovak language. User
> > visiting https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ see the Slovak
> > release notes for 3.10 instead the English version for 3.12. It's wrong.
>
> Indeed, the way branching happened on the server caused that, thanks
> for noticing, I have now manually removed *.sk files (and then checked
> for other languages with the problem and removed *.da, *.el, and *.id).
>
>
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-27 Thread Frederic Peters
Rafael Ferreira wrote:
> Should I see the translated version of release notes when accessing
> https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ ? Just asking, because I
> see it in English.  To see in my language (pt_BR) I have to append
> "index.html.pt_BR" to the URL..

This is based on content-negociation so it should happen automatically
if your browser is configured correctly; but in your specific case
maybe there's a misconfiguration on the server and a mismatch between
pt-br and pt_BR.

(CC to Andrea Veri, he could probably tell)


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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-27 Thread Rafael Ferreira
2014-03-27 9:20 GMT-03:00 Frederic Peters :

> Rafael Ferreira wrote:
> > Should I see the translated version of release notes when accessing
> > https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ ? Just asking, because I
> > see it in English.  To see in my language (pt_BR) I have to append
> > "index.html.pt_BR" to the URL..
>
> This is based on content-negociation so it should happen automatically
> if your browser is configured correctly; but in your specific case
> maybe there's a misconfiguration on the server and a mismatch between
> pt-br and pt_BR.
>


Right. Now I remember that I discussed this issue with Andrea in
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710939

When I removed English from language list of Chromium, it appears in
Portuguese.
Basically, if English is listed in my language list (which was as *lowest*
priority, after Portuguese and Portuguese (Brazil) ), GNOME websites appear
in English, while IMHO it should behave just as a fallback.

P.s.: This language list (that includes English as lowest priority) came in
my distribution (Arch Linux). All I did was remove it right
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-27 Thread Luc Pionchon
With GNOME app generic names, some sentences like "Software Has Grown
Up" are confusing. Just wondering if we could, for example, float a
little GNOME foot, the same way we would have a '(tm)' sign. Something
like:

span.app:after {
 content: url('https://help.gnome.org/skin/gnome-16.png');
 vertical-align: 0.2ex;
}



On 18 March 2014 23:45, Allan Day  wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised, so it can
> now be translated. Unfortunately, the screenshots are not complete,
> but that will happen in the next day or two. The release itself is
> scheduled for 26 March.
>
> The notes can be found in the 3.12 branch of the release-notes module:
>
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/?h=gnome-3-12
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Allan
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate

2014-03-27 Thread Andrea Veri
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014, Rafael Ferreira wrote:

> Right. Now I remember that I discussed this issue with Andrea in
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710939
> 
> When I removed English from language list of Chromium, it appears in
> Portuguese.
> Basically, if English is listed in my language list (which was as *lowest*
> priority, after Portuguese and Portuguese (Brazil) ), GNOME websites appear
> in English, while IMHO it should behave just as a fallback.

I'm very surprised after a few tests I just ran:

1. every single language works fine when configured as the first 
   preference on your browser. You can test this by selecting 'af',
   which stands on the latest spots on the LanguagePriority list. You
   will see [1] showing up half translated. (I suppose some of the 
   translations are still missing for that specific locale)
2. pt_BR is the only affected locale that does not show up properly 
   even when selected as the very first locale on your browser.
3. curl shows success but chrome and firefox are not working as
   expected:

curl -iI -H 'Accept-Language: pt_BR,en_GB;q=0.7,en;q=0.6' https://help.gnome.org

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:26:34 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat)
Content-Location: index.html.pt_BR
Vary: negotiate,accept-language,Cookie
TCN: choice
Last-Modified: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:36:52 GMT
ETag: "4404a6-1c22-4f596ad8d38cd"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 7202
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Content-Language: pt_br
Connection: close

httpd.conf has: 

AddLanguage pt-br .pt_BR
AddLanguage pt_BR .pt_BR

I tried adding:

AddLanguage pt_br .pt_BR

but it didn't help. Rafael can you test the above as well? 
specifically check that:

1. the only "broken" language not showing up is pt_BR
2. selecting other languages != from pt_BR works, for example
   try with 'af' or 'sq' which are the latest entries on 
   LanguagePriority as you can see from this excerpt:

LanguagePriority en ca cs da de el eo es et fr he hr hu it ja ko ltz nl nn no 
pl pt pt_br pt_BR ru sv tr zh-CN zh-TW uk eu af sq be@latn

3. test the above with curl
4. test the above with both chrome and firefox

Thanks!


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