Re: BoF item 4/14: Splitting modules
The main problem I see in OLPC moduleset is that it has some external modules (hosted in Transifex, etc). This may be a problem for some coordinators, who doesn't have an account in this platform, and don't know to work with it (at the beginning, it may be a bit tricky...). Also, this kind of modules can be problematic, since you see the module completed at 80% in DL, but at 100% in Transifex, so you can get confused. 2012/8/3 Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote: Hi! See https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/SplittingModules Overall we wanted to base the Supported language status on having translated at least 80% of Core, Core Apps, Extra Apps and Accessibility. Furthermore, we *might* want to create a Basic Support status for having translated Core and Core Apps to give more motiviation to small teams. We still need feedback if there are any UI strings in the Libraries section that are shown to the user. (Excluding cryptic error messages and properties displayed in glade). Johannes, One of the main reasons I've mentioned the OLPC Release Set http://l10n.gnome.org/releases/olpc/ as a potential starting point for localizers is that it represents the Gnome packages that are pulled down by OLPC (typically via Fedora RPM repos) to create the Gnome side of the Sugar/Gnome dual-boot OS image, as well as a few Gnome core infrastructure modules that lay a little deeper in the stack of what is a fairly minimalist GNU/Linux Fedora spin. It's value as a point of comparison is not so much that it is want is needed for an OLPC XO laptop, but rather that it is a module collection that has been culled down by intense size pressures (one GB total storage on an XO-1) and therefore is one specific example of a minimal set. I've done my best to keep the packages displayed in the OLPC Release Set current by going through the packages.txt file in OLPC releases as they become available, a pending major release by OLPC is complicating this a little at the moment. I should explain that at the present, time while there is an ongoing transition from GTK2 to GTK3 in the Sugar / OLPC OS stack, I have chosen to only point to the GTK3 master branch versions of packages. This release set is intended to be more forward-looking in terms of L10n needs/wants and not necessarily about back-filling translations on existing releases, although the reality of the situation is that an OLPC release will likely be one or more release cycles back from Gnome master when it goes out the door given that it largely draws from Fedora RPM repos and lags the Fedora release cycle. Taking a look at the libraries (or other packages) included in the OLPC release set might give you some ideas about what it might be worth including in a priority L10n target set. You will need to take into account that given it's focus on children in the educational setting, the inclusion of things like gcompris are driven because they are educational games and not because they are needed to make a minimal Gnome desktop sign and dance. Just a thought for your consideration. Consider it one downstream's very-specific POV as measured by the packages pulled from Gnome. cjl ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: BoF item 4/14: Splitting modules
Hi! See https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/SplittingModules Overall we wanted to base the Supported language status on having translated at least 80% of Core, Core Apps, Extra Apps and Accessibility. Furthermore, we *might* want to create a Basic Support status for having translated Core and Core Apps to give more motiviation to small teams. We still need feedback if there are any UI strings in the Libraries section that are shown to the user. (Excluding cryptic error messages and properties displayed in glade). Regards, Johannes Am Donnerstag, den 02.08.2012, 22:04 +0200 schrieb Gil Forcada: Hi all, As I said in previous mails, let this mail be a kickstart for giving feedback about the items that are defined on https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/Events/GTPBoFGUADEC2012 In this mail please give feedback about the Splitting modules item. Cheers, -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: BoF item 4/14: Splitting modules
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote: Hi! See https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/SplittingModules Overall we wanted to base the Supported language status on having translated at least 80% of Core, Core Apps, Extra Apps and Accessibility. Furthermore, we *might* want to create a Basic Support status for having translated Core and Core Apps to give more motiviation to small teams. We still need feedback if there are any UI strings in the Libraries section that are shown to the user. (Excluding cryptic error messages and properties displayed in glade). Johannes, One of the main reasons I've mentioned the OLPC Release Set http://l10n.gnome.org/releases/olpc/ as a potential starting point for localizers is that it represents the Gnome packages that are pulled down by OLPC (typically via Fedora RPM repos) to create the Gnome side of the Sugar/Gnome dual-boot OS image, as well as a few Gnome core infrastructure modules that lay a little deeper in the stack of what is a fairly minimalist GNU/Linux Fedora spin. It's value as a point of comparison is not so much that it is want is needed for an OLPC XO laptop, but rather that it is a module collection that has been culled down by intense size pressures (one GB total storage on an XO-1) and therefore is one specific example of a minimal set. I've done my best to keep the packages displayed in the OLPC Release Set current by going through the packages.txt file in OLPC releases as they become available, a pending major release by OLPC is complicating this a little at the moment. I should explain that at the present, time while there is an ongoing transition from GTK2 to GTK3 in the Sugar / OLPC OS stack, I have chosen to only point to the GTK3 master branch versions of packages. This release set is intended to be more forward-looking in terms of L10n needs/wants and not necessarily about back-filling translations on existing releases, although the reality of the situation is that an OLPC release will likely be one or more release cycles back from Gnome master when it goes out the door given that it largely draws from Fedora RPM repos and lags the Fedora release cycle. Taking a look at the libraries (or other packages) included in the OLPC release set might give you some ideas about what it might be worth including in a priority L10n target set. You will need to take into account that given it's focus on children in the educational setting, the inclusion of things like gcompris are driven because they are educational games and not because they are needed to make a minimal Gnome desktop sign and dance. Just a thought for your consideration. Consider it one downstream's very-specific POV as measured by the packages pulled from Gnome. cjl ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
BoF item 4/14: Splitting modules
Hi all, As I said in previous mails, let this mail be a kickstart for giving feedback about the items that are defined on https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/Events/GTPBoFGUADEC2012 In this mail please give feedback about the Splitting modules item. Cheers, -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net -- Gil Forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net planet: http://planet.guifi.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
