Bug in the .pot file
When listing partially supported countries you've listed Macedonia with 1.5 milion citizens. Macedonia has exactly 2 milion 71210 citizens. Check it at http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mk.html Thanks. Arangel Angov Macedonian Translation Team ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Bug in the .pot file
, Today at 13:06, wrote: When listing partially supported countries you've listed Macedonia with 1.5 milion citizens. Macedonia has exactly 2 milion 71210 citizens. This is about native language speakers, not citizenship. Also, that can't be true (you cannot be that precise, since someone must have died, and someone must have been born since that estimate was done :). This is just an illustration of the types of problems one might have with determining real number of speakers. I applied the same rules for Serbian (10M is not only from Serbia, it's including Serbia, Montenegro and Republic of Srpska, meaning we didn't count Kosovo population, and it's *very* imprecise: the true figure might have been 9M, but it might have been 11M as wellI don't know and I don't care). Of course, I didn't make the figure up for Macedonian, I took it from ethnologue. Check it at http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mk.html Indeed, look at languages section lower on that page. Languages: Macedonian 68%, Albanian 25%, Turkish 3%, Serbo-Croatian 2%, other 2% So, there would be less than 1.4 million Macedonian speakers. Should I change the figure to 1.4? :) Just kidding, don't make too much of the figure in release notes, it's just an estimate, and changing it this late in the game would break everyone's translations, and I don't want that. Cheers, Danilo ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: Bug in the .pot file
sn 2005-03-06 klockan 17:37 +0100 skrev : Danilo egan wrote: This is about native language speakers, not citizenship. Also, that can't be true (you cannot be that precise, since someone must have died, and someone must have been born since that estimate was done :). This is just an illustration of the types of problems one might have with determining real number of speakers. I applied the same rules for Serbian (10M is not only from Serbia, it's including Serbia, Montenegro and Republic of Srpska, meaning we didn't count Kosovo population, and it's *very* imprecise: the true figure might have been 9M, but it might have been 11M as wellI don't know and I don't care). I agree. But all of the 2 million citizens are speaking macedonian. It's the same with the hungarian minority in Northern Serbia or any other country that has other nationalities, they all speak/use the country's official language. I thought that the numbers for all languages were based on those facts. If you think about it, the only reasonable count and the only really interesting figure in this respect is people's native language (their mother tongue). Otherwise, people would be counted multiple times, once for every language they happen to speak as well besides their mother tongue. And double counting doesn't make the statistics more useful, only more complicated. Among other things, English would, if all people who have it as a second language were counted as well, end up well over the 341 millions it currently has (probably more than a billion I guess). So the figures are for native speakers only, and most likely the figure will diverge from the number of citizens in your country. Either because of minorities in the country that don't have your language as their mother tongue, and because there may be groups of people outside of your country that still have your language as their first language. So it goes both ways, but the figure is probably not the same as the number of citizens in the country. Christian ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
