Re: gnome-control-center new string?

2011-04-06 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 15:48 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> I'm trying to fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645002
> which has just become a release blocker for Fedora 15. I'm proposing
> we add the following patch to gnome-control-center so that we can fix
> the issue properly for 3.0.1
> 
> I know we don't normally allow string additions in stable branches,
> but I thought I'd ask anyway. Ideas welcome.
> + /* TRANSLATORS: this is when the access point is not listed
> +  * in the dropdown (or hidden) and the user has to select
> +  * another entry manually */
> + PANEL_WIRELESS_COLUMN_TITLE, _("Other..."),


The string already exists in g-c-c so technically speaking it is not a
string freeze break:
#: ../panels/user-accounts/um-language-dialog.c:180
msgid "Other..."

However I don't know if some languages require a translation context
(msgctxt) here which would make this a new separate string, in case the
two translations differ (gender of strings that each of them refers to).
See 
https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/DevGuidelines/Translation%20contexts

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Re: gnome-control-center new string?

2011-04-06 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Andre Klapper  wrote:

> The string already exists in g-c-c so technically speaking it is not a
> string freeze break:
> #: ../panels/user-accounts/um-language-dialog.c:180
> msgid "Other..."
>
> However I don't know if some languages require a translation context
> (msgctxt) here which would make this a new separate string

I think message context (and a translator comment) would be a good
idea for both of these. We can prime the translations for both new
strings with the current context-free translations...
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Re: gnome-control-center new string?

2011-04-06 Thread Luca Ferretti
> Subject: [PATCH] network: add a 'Other...' entry to the wireless
> combobox so users can connect to hidden access points
>

Question: why a combobox menu entry? Maybe simply type the hidden
network name in combobox text entry area could be good by now.

PS related to missing features, there is no way to "create" a network,
see "Create New Wireless Network" in GNOME 2 nm-applet. Planned for
3.2?
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Re: gnome-control-center new string?

2011-04-06 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Luca Ferretti  wrote:
>> Subject: [PATCH] network: add a 'Other...' entry to the wireless
>> combobox so users can connect to hidden access points
>>
>
> Question: why a combobox menu entry? Maybe simply type the hidden
> network name in combobox text entry area could be good by now.

Making the entry editable would be awkward, I think.
Plus, this way we get to reuse all the existing infrastructure, which
makes this fix 3.0.1 material.

> PS related to missing features, there is no way to "create" a network,
> see "Create New Wireless Network" in GNOME 2 nm-applet. Planned for
> 3.2?

At some point I started working on a patch for it, but I put it aside
to focus on more pressing network problems. Its certainly a much less
needed feature than hidden aps. But it can certainly make 3.2
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Re: gnome-control-center new string?

2011-04-06 Thread Kenneth Nielsen
2011/4/6 Andre Klapper :
> On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 15:48 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
>> I'm trying to fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645002
>> which has just become a release blocker for Fedora 15. I'm proposing
>> we add the following patch to gnome-control-center so that we can fix
>> the issue properly for 3.0.1
>>
>> I know we don't normally allow string additions in stable branches,
>> but I thought I'd ask anyway. Ideas welcome.
>> +     /* TRANSLATORS: this is when the access point is not listed
>> +      * in the dropdown (or hidden) and the user has to select
>> +      * another entry manually */
>> +     PANEL_WIRELESS_COLUMN_TITLE, _("Other..."),
>
>
> The string already exists in g-c-c so technically speaking it is not a
> string freeze break:
> #: ../panels/user-accounts/um-language-dialog.c:180
> msgid "Other..."
>
> However I don't know if some languages require a translation context
> (msgctxt) here which would make this a new separate string, in case the
> two translations differ (gender of strings that each of them refers to).
> See 
> https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/DevGuidelines/Translation%20contexts

It _is_ context/gender dependent, at least in Danish. So you cannot
reuse an existing "Other... translation from another project, _unless_
it there also refers to an access point (and the context is made clear
in the translation you want to copy from).

Regards Kenneth

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Re: gnome-control-center new string?

2011-04-08 Thread Gabor Kelemen

2011-04-06 21:35 keltezéssel, Kenneth Nielsen írta:

2011/4/6 Andre Klapper:

On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 15:48 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:

I'm trying to fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645002
which has just become a release blocker for Fedora 15. I'm proposing
we add the following patch to gnome-control-center so that we can fix
the issue properly for 3.0.1

I know we don't normally allow string additions in stable branches,
but I thought I'd ask anyway. Ideas welcome.
+ /* TRANSLATORS: this is when the access point is not listed
+  * in the dropdown (or hidden) and the user has to select
+  * another entry manually */
+ PANEL_WIRELESS_COLUMN_TITLE, _("Other..."),


The string already exists in g-c-c so technically speaking it is not a
string freeze break:
#: ../panels/user-accounts/um-language-dialog.c:180
msgid "Other..."

However I don't know if some languages require a translation context
(msgctxt) here which would make this a new separate string, in case the
two translations differ (gender of strings that each of them refers to).
See 
https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/DevGuidelines/Translation%20contexts

It _is_ context/gender dependent, at least in Danish. So you cannot
reuse an existing "Other... translation from another project, _unless_
it there also refers to an access point (and the context is made clear
in the translation you want to copy from).

Regards Kenneth

I'd say it's important enough to go. If this context gets added, then 
1/2 from i18n.


Regards
Gabor Kelemen


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Re: gnome-control-center new string?

2011-04-09 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

Am Freitag, den 08.04.2011, 22:48 +0200 schrieb Gabor Kelemen
> I'd say it's important enough to go. If this context gets added, then 
> 1/2 from i18n.

2/2 for this in 3.0.1.

Regards,
Johannes

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Re: gnome-control-center new string?

2011-04-10 Thread Richard Hughes
On 9 April 2011 22:12, Johannes Schmid  wrote:
> 2/2 for this in 3.0.1.

Thanks guys, pushed.

Richard.
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Re: gnome-control-center new string?

2011-04-10 Thread Jorge González
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:31, Richard Hughes  wrote:
> On 9 April 2011 22:12, Johannes Schmid  wrote:
>> 2/2 for this in 3.0.1.
>
> Thanks guys, pushed.

I think the context might be wrong:

Comentarios extraídos:
TRANSLATORS: this is when the access point is not listed
* in the dropdown (or hidden) and the user has to select
* another entry manually

We are talking about a network, but the context says an AP. It is not
the same, at least for Spanish, Is it "Connect to other network" (like
now, with NM) or "Connect to other AP"?

Thanks,


> Richard.

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