String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: http://l10n.gnome.org. There have been following string additions to module 'gdm.gnome-2-30': + "Keyboard" + "Language" + "Session" Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it might be worth investigating. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 01:49 +, GNOME Status Pages a écrit : > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: > http://l10n.gnome.org. > > There have been following string additions to module 'gdm.gnome-2-30': > > + "Keyboard" > + "Language" > + "Session" > > Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it > might be worth investigating. Hi Jon, The commit 1b334350 (Remove text labels for option menus) in gnome-2-30 branch of GDM is breaking string freeze. Could this be reverted or is it a critical fix for which an exception should be asked for? Cheers, Claude ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 09:09 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit : > Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 01:49 +, GNOME Status Pages a écrit : > > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: > > http://l10n.gnome.org. > > > > There have been following string additions to module 'gdm.gnome-2-30': > > > > + "Keyboard" > > + "Language" > > + "Session" > > > > Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it > > might be worth investigating. > > Hi Jon, > > The commit 1b334350 (Remove text labels for option menus) in gnome-2-30 > branch of GDM is breaking string freeze. Could this be reverted or is it > a critical fix for which an exception should be asked for? Would the gdm mailing list be more responsive :-) ? Claude -- www.2xlibre.net ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [gdm-list] String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
Hi, On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Claude Paroz wrote: > Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 09:09 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit : >> Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 01:49 +, GNOME Status Pages a écrit : >> > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: >> > http://l10n.gnome.org. >> > >> > There have been following string additions to module 'gdm.gnome-2-30': >> > >> > + "Keyboard" >> > + "Language" >> > + "Session" >> > >> > Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it >> > might be worth investigating. >> >> Hi Jon, >> >> The commit 1b334350 (Remove text labels for option menus) in gnome-2-30 >> branch of GDM is breaking string freeze. Could this be reverted or is it >> a critical fix for which an exception should be asked for? Sorry for the delay. I wanted to discuss it with some other people before responding. I think I'd prefer to ask for an exception for this one. The string change is simply removing underscores. But the bug that it fixes is a somewhat important one. The GDM greeter, in most cases, would not fit on a 1024x768 size screen before this change (even in English). The general bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620893 Thanks, Jon ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [gdm-list] String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
Le lundi 21 juin 2010 à 23:00 -0400, William Jon McCann a écrit : > Hi, > > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Claude Paroz wrote: > > Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 09:09 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit : > >> Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 01:49 +, GNOME Status Pages a écrit : > >> > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: > >> > http://l10n.gnome.org. > >> > > >> > There have been following string additions to module 'gdm.gnome-2-30': > >> > > >> > + "Keyboard" > >> > + "Language" > >> > + "Session" > >> > > >> > Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it > >> > might be worth investigating. > >> > >> Hi Jon, > >> > >> The commit 1b334350 (Remove text labels for option menus) in gnome-2-30 > >> branch of GDM is breaking string freeze. Could this be reverted or is it > >> a critical fix for which an exception should be asked for? > > Sorry for the delay. I wanted to discuss it with some other people > before responding. > > I think I'd prefer to ask for an exception for this one. The string > change is simply removing underscores. But the bug that it fixes is a > somewhat important one. The GDM greeter, in most cases, would not fit > on a 1024x768 size screen before this change (even in English). > > The general bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620893 I would be rather enclined to accept it, but now the time remaining for translators to fix these strings is short for the 2.30.2 GNOME release, isn't it? Claude ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [gdm-list] String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Claude Paroz wrote: > Le lundi 21 juin 2010 à 23:00 -0400, William Jon McCann a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Claude Paroz wrote: >> > Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 09:09 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit : >> >> Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 01:49 +, GNOME Status Pages a écrit : >> >> > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: >> >> > http://l10n.gnome.org. >> >> > >> >> > There have been following string additions to module 'gdm.gnome-2-30': >> >> > >> >> > + "Keyboard" >> >> > + "Language" >> >> > + "Session" >> >> > >> >> > Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it >> >> > might be worth investigating. >> >> >> >> Hi Jon, >> >> >> >> The commit 1b334350 (Remove text labels for option menus) in gnome-2-30 >> >> branch of GDM is breaking string freeze. Could this be reverted or is it >> >> a critical fix for which an exception should be asked for? >> >> Sorry for the delay. I wanted to discuss it with some other people >> before responding. >> >> I think I'd prefer to ask for an exception for this one. The string >> change is simply removing underscores. But the bug that it fixes is a >> somewhat important one. The GDM greeter, in most cases, would not fit >> on a 1024x768 size screen before this change (even in English). >> >> The general bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620893 > > I would be rather enclined to accept it, but now the time remaining for > translators to fix these strings is short for the 2.30.2 GNOME release, > isn't it? Is there a way we can programmatically remove the "_" from the existing translated strings? Or at least get close? Jon ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [gdm-list] String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
Claude/i18n team: This is regarding the outstanding GDM 2.30.3 release. Just to follow up, is it possible to have someone from the i18n team programmatically fix the msgid and msgstr strings to remove the underscore (or the "(_K)" from msgstr for non-Latin languages) for the following strings: + "Keyboard" + "Language" + "Session" If so, that would be the best solution since it would allow us to spin a stable release with this important fix? Or do we really need to backout these string changes before we can do a release? Please advise since we would like to do a release as quickly as we can. Thanks, Brian > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Claude Paroz > wrote: >> Le lundi 21 juin 2010 à 23:00 -0400, William Jon McCann a écrit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Claude Paroz wrote: >>> > Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 09:09 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit : >>> >> Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 01:49 +, GNOME Status Pages a écrit : >>> >> > This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on: >>> >> > http://l10n.gnome.org. >>> >> > >>> >> > There have been following string additions to module >>> >> >'gdm.gnome-2-30': >>> >> > >>> >> > + "Keyboard" >>> >> > + "Language" >>> >> > + "Session" >>> >> > >>> >> > Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze >>> >> > break, but it might be worth investigating. >>> >> >>> >> Hi Jon, >>> >> >>> >> The commit 1b334350 (Remove text labels for option menus) in >>> >> gnome-2-30 branch of GDM is breaking string freeze. Could this >>> >> be reverted or is it a critical fix for which an exception >>> >> should be asked for? >>> >>> Sorry for the delay. I wanted to discuss it with some other people >>> before responding. >>> >>> I think I'd prefer to ask for an exception for this one. The string >>> change is simply removing underscores. But the bug that it fixes >>> is a somewhat important one. The GDM greeter, in most cases, would >>> not fit on a 1024x768 size screen before this change (even in >>> English). >>> >>> The general bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620893 >> >> I would be rather enclined to accept it, but now the time remaining >> for translators to fix these strings is short for the 2.30.2 GNOME >> release, isn't it? > > Is there a way we can programmatically remove the "_" from the > existing translated strings? Or at least get close? > > Jon ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [gdm-list] String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
Hi! > + "Keyboard" > + "Language" > + "Session" > What was the use of the underscores in the first place? Sorry, I don't fully get why they were there and why you would want to remove them. If you just remove it for fixing the appearance for english language than you are not fixing the bug for all the other 200 languages that might have shorter of longer terms for these strings. Thus, I would consider it a hack. But maybe you can explain this in more detail. Regards, Johannes ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [gdm-list] String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
Le mercredi 23 juin 2010 à 17:45 -0500, Brian Cameron a écrit : > Claude/i18n team: > > This is regarding the outstanding GDM 2.30.3 release. > > Just to follow up, is it possible to have someone from the i18n team > programmatically fix the msgid and msgstr strings to remove the > underscore (or the "(_K)" from msgstr for non-Latin languages) for > the following strings: > > + "Keyboard" > + "Language" > + "Session" > > If so, that would be the best solution since it would allow us to spin > a stable release with this important fix? > > Or do we really need to backout these string changes before we can do a > release? Please advise since we would like to do a release as quickly > as we can. It might be possible for the first two, but as "Sessions" became "Session", it is *not* possible to automate a change for this plural change. Claude > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Claude Paroz > > wrote: > >> Le lundi 21 juin 2010 à 23:00 -0400, William Jon McCann a écrit : > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Claude Paroz > wrote: > >>> > Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 09:09 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit : > >>> >> Le vendredi 11 juin 2010 à 01:49 +, GNOME Status Pages a écrit : > >>> >> > This is an automatic notification from status generation > scripts on: > >>> >> > http://l10n.gnome.org. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > There have been following string additions to module > >>> >> >'gdm.gnome-2-30': > >>> >> > > >>> >> > + "Keyboard" > >>> >> > + "Language" > >>> >> > + "Session" > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze > >>> >> > break, but it might be worth investigating. > >>> >> > >>> >> Hi Jon, > >>> >> > >>> >> The commit 1b334350 (Remove text labels for option menus) in > >>> >> gnome-2-30 branch of GDM is breaking string freeze. Could this > >>> >> be reverted or is it a critical fix for which an exception > >>> >> should be asked for? > >>> > >>> Sorry for the delay. I wanted to discuss it with some other people > >>> before responding. > >>> > >>> I think I'd prefer to ask for an exception for this one. The string > >>> change is simply removing underscores. But the bug that it fixes > >>> is a somewhat important one. The GDM greeter, in most cases, would > >>> not fit on a 1024x768 size screen before this change (even in > >>> English). > >>> > >>> The general bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620893 > >> > >> I would be rather enclined to accept it, but now the time remaining > >> for translators to fix these strings is short for the 2.30.2 GNOME > >> release, isn't it? > > > > Is there a way we can programmatically remove the "_" from the > > existing translated strings? Or at least get close? > > > > Jon ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [gdm-list] String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
Hi, On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Claude Paroz wrote: > Le mercredi 23 juin 2010 à 17:45 -0500, Brian Cameron a écrit : >> Claude/i18n team: >> >> This is regarding the outstanding GDM 2.30.3 release. >> >> Just to follow up, is it possible to have someone from the i18n team >> programmatically fix the msgid and msgstr strings to remove the >> underscore (or the "(_K)" from msgstr for non-Latin languages) for >> the following strings: >> >> + "Keyboard" >> + "Language" >> + "Session" >> >> If so, that would be the best solution since it would allow us to spin >> a stable release with this important fix? >> >> Or do we really need to backout these string changes before we can do a >> release? Please advise since we would like to do a release as quickly >> as we can. > > It might be possible for the first two, but as "Sessions" became > "Session", it is *not* possible to automate a change for this plural > change. So I thought about this a bit. If you think about it, the C "translation" was wrong before. It was always supposed to be singular in English and wasn't. I'm sure when some of the translators translated it, they looked at the context it was being used and made the word have the correct plurality in their translation. I'm sure some didn't. The point is, the plurality of that word is orthogonal to the other changes. It probably needs to be fixed for some of the translations, but that was true before Jon's commit and it's still true now after. I've done a follow up commit to fix thing up the underlines issue: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?h=gnome-2-30&id=9484c04ae87ad725502957ee9e89c72452dddafe We (the maintainers of gdm) are sorry for the confusion and inconvenience this caused, and will be more careful in the future. --Ray ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [gdm-list] String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
Hi again, > I've done a follow up commit to fix thing up the underlines issue: > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?h=gnome-2-30&id=9484c04ae87ad725502957ee9e89c72452dddafe Looking through the follow up commits from translators, I forgot to fix up "Keyboard". I'll do that now. --Ray ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: [gdm-list] String additions to 'gdm.gnome-2-30'
Hi, >> I've done a follow up commit to fix thing up the underlines issue: >> >> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?h=gnome-2-30&id=9484c04ae87ad725502957ee9e89c72452dddafe > > Looking through the follow up commits from translators, I forgot to > fix up "Keyboard". I'll do that now. I've done that fix now here: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?id=c7787b52776c57543690bb4d85a22d42c9f109ea and I also did a follow up release here: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?h=gnome-2-30&id=90fa7d37ef1ecab143250a9a6a7959209da4574a So, we should be all good to go now. --Ray ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
