String break request for Orca
This has come back to spank me square in my butt. I need to change:
_("%s level %d")
to:
_("%(role)s level %(level)d")
Although my testing and testing from a Hungarian translator (Hammer
Attila) showed that the first form worked, another Hungarian translator
(Gabor Kelemen) ended up being able to coax intltool into being more
picky. So, we need to go with the parameterized form.
Gabor has also shown me that "msgfmt -cvo /dev/null hu.po" will detect
translations that attempt to translated the parameter names (e.g.,
"(role)" and "(level)" in the above), alieving my concern about those
things getting translated by accident.
Ah well, for the better, I guess,
Will
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Re: String break request for Orca
Le mardi 17 février 2009 à 19:57 -0500, Willie Walker a écrit :
> This has come back to spank me square in my butt. I need to change:
>
> _("%s level %d")
>
> to:
>
> _("%(role)s level %(level)d")
>
> Although my testing and testing from a Hungarian translator (Hammer
> Attila) showed that the first form worked, another Hungarian translator
> (Gabor Kelemen) ended up being able to coax intltool into being more
> picky. So, we need to go with the parameterized form.
Is the first form really buggy? I'm all in favour of this change for
post 2.26, but I need to be convinced this is really a problem worth to
break the string freeze.
Claude
> Gabor has also shown me that "msgfmt -cvo /dev/null hu.po" will detect
> translations that attempt to translated the parameter names (e.g.,
> "(role)" and "(level)" in the above), alieving my concern about those
> things getting translated by accident.
>
> Ah well, for the better, I guess,
>
> Will
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Re: String break request for Orca
Hi Claude:
Gabor Kelemen commented on the simpler form not working for him at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572218#c6
Looks like whatever version of msgfmt that Gabor is using is smart
enough to compare the order of the parameters.
Will
Claude Paroz wrote:
Le mardi 17 février 2009 à 19:57 -0500, Willie Walker a écrit :
This has come back to spank me square in my butt. I need to change:
_("%s level %d")
to:
_("%(role)s level %(level)d")
Although my testing and testing from a Hungarian translator (Hammer
Attila) showed that the first form worked, another Hungarian translator
(Gabor Kelemen) ended up being able to coax intltool into being more
picky. So, we need to go with the parameterized form.
Is the first form really buggy? I'm all in favour of this change for
post 2.26, but I need to be convinced this is really a problem worth to
break the string freeze.
Claude
Gabor has also shown me that "msgfmt -cvo /dev/null hu.po" will detect
translations that attempt to translated the parameter names (e.g.,
"(role)" and "(level)" in the above), alieving my concern about those
things getting translated by accident.
Ah well, for the better, I guess,
Will
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Re: String break request for Orca
Claude Paroz írta:
> Le mardi 17 février 2009 à 19:57 -0500, Willie Walker a écrit :
>> This has come back to spank me square in my butt. I need to change:
>>
>> _("%s level %d")
>>
>> to:
>>
>> _("%(role)s level %(level)d")
>>
>> Although my testing and testing from a Hungarian translator (Hammer
>> Attila) showed that the first form worked, another Hungarian translator
>> (Gabor Kelemen) ended up being able to coax intltool into being more
>> picky. So, we need to go with the parameterized form.
>
> Is the first form really buggy? I'm all in favour of this change for
> post 2.26, but I need to be convinced this is really a problem worth to
> break the string freeze.
>
Well, as the comment says, the point of this string is to make it
possible for us to change the order of variables.
But how do you do this correctly in Python? Simply writing "%d foo %s"
does not work even in C, msgfmt complains. Writing "%2$d foo %1$s" would
work in C, but this is Python, where it doesn't.
So we have to use _("%(role)s level %(level)d") and break the freeze, if
we want to make reordering work.
For more details, please see
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572218.
Regards
Gabor Kelemen
> Claude
>
>> Gabor has also shown me that "msgfmt -cvo /dev/null hu.po" will detect
>> translations that attempt to translated the parameter names (e.g.,
>> "(role)" and "(level)" in the above), alieving my concern about those
>> things getting translated by accident.
>>
>> Ah well, for the better, I guess,
>>
>> Will
>
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Re: String break request for Orca
Le mercredi 18 février 2009 à 03:35 -0500, Willie Walker a écrit :
> Hi Claude:
>
> Gabor Kelemen commented on the simpler form not working for him at
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572218#c6
>
> Looks like whatever version of msgfmt that Gabor is using is smart
> enough to compare the order of the parameters.
OK, I see the problem.
Approval 1 of 2 from gnome-i18n.
Claude
> Claude Paroz wrote:
> > Le mardi 17 février 2009 à 19:57 -0500, Willie Walker a écrit :
> >> This has come back to spank me square in my butt. I need to change:
> >>
> >> _("%s level %d")
> >>
> >> to:
> >>
> >> _("%(role)s level %(level)d")
> >>
> >> Although my testing and testing from a Hungarian translator (Hammer
> >> Attila) showed that the first form worked, another Hungarian translator
> >> (Gabor Kelemen) ended up being able to coax intltool into being more
> >> picky. So, we need to go with the parameterized form.
> >
> > Is the first form really buggy? I'm all in favour of this change for
> > post 2.26, but I need to be convinced this is really a problem worth to
> > break the string freeze.
> >
> > Claude
> >
> >> Gabor has also shown me that "msgfmt -cvo /dev/null hu.po" will detect
> >> translations that attempt to translated the parameter names (e.g.,
> >> "(role)" and "(level)" in the above), alieving my concern about those
> >> things getting translated by accident.
> >>
> >> Ah well, for the better, I guess,
> >>
> >> Will
> >
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Re: String break request for Orca
2009-02-18 klockan 13:45 skrev Claude Paroz: > Le mercredi 18 février 2009 à 03:35 -0500, Willie Walker a écrit : > > Gabor Kelemen commented on the simpler form not working for him at > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572218#c6 > > Looks like whatever version of msgfmt that Gabor is using is smart > > enough to compare the order of the parameters. > > OK, I see the problem. > Approval 1 of 2 from gnome-i18n. Approval 2/2... I was just waiting for this to happen: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2009-February/msg00168.html — Wouter signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
