Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-12 Thread Reinout van Schouwen

Op dinsdag 11-09-2007 om 16:28 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Andre
Klapper:

 svn.gnome.org/svn/gnomeweb-wml/trunk/www.gnome.org/start/2.20 , as
 described before in this thread. :-)

The nl.po in that hierarchy is a copy of the gnome 2.14 release notes?!
I feel stupid for not getting this...

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-10 Thread Clytie Siddall
Can we please have the release-notes on Damned Lies, so we can  
monitor changes?


from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm  
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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-10 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On 9/10/07, Clytie Siddall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can we please have the release-notes on Damned Lies, so we can
 monitor changes?

It's here, as described in GNOME live:
  http://l10n.gnome.org/module/release-notes

(The GNOME Live page: http://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes/Translating )

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-10 Thread Murray Cumming

On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 22:48 +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote:
 Another q. about the Release Notes...
 
 Since I've translated them before, I'm not sure if the screenshots in  
 the docbook/vi/figures directory are the old ones, or if they are  
 ones added by default for this release.
 
 If they're old ones, I could remove them, and, hopefully, get some  
 new ones instead. ;)
 
 (For some reason, viewcvs isn't displaying any info except filenames  
 for me, and of course the dates on the files in the directory I've  
 checked out today all say Today...)

They are old ones. It would be best to remove all the figure*.png files.

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-08 Thread Clytie Siddall

Another q. about the Release Notes...

Since I've translated them before, I'm not sure if the screenshots in  
the docbook/vi/figures directory are the old ones, or if they are  
ones added by default for this release.


If they're old ones, I could remove them, and, hopefully, get some  
new ones instead. ;)


(For some reason, viewcvs isn't displaying any info except filenames  
for me, and of course the dates on the files in the directory I've  
checked out today all say Today...)


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Việt hóa phần mềm tự do)

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-08 Thread Daniel Nylander
Clytie Siddall skrev:
 Another q. about the Release Notes...
 
 Since I've translated them before, I'm not sure if the screenshots in
 the docbook/vi/figures directory are the old ones, or if they are ones
 added by default for this release.
 
 If they're old ones, I could remove them, and, hopefully, get some new
 ones instead. ;)

You can compare the MD5 checksum in the PO file for each image.
If they are the same as in the 2.18 release notes, the image is the
same. I think though that all images are new.

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-07 Thread Clytie Siddall


On 07/09/2007, at 12:12 AM, Daniel Nylander wrote:

I'm also trying to remember how to check the release notes out. I  
think
they're in gnomeweb-wml, but I can't find them via viewcvs: I seem  
to go

around in circles in there.


Here are they:
svn.gnome.org/svn/gnomeweb-wml/trunk/www.gnome.org/start/2.20


Thanks, Daniel. :)

Not an easy location to remember, at least for me.

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-06 Thread Clytie Siddall


On 05/09/2007, at 10:30 PM, Og Maciel wrote:


On 9/5/07, Clytie Siddall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've forgotten [1] where to find the Release Notes. Are they on
Damned Lies yet?


Hey Clytie,

Here's the direct link: http://l10n.gnome.org/module/release-notes

Have fun! :)


Thanks, Og. :)

I'm also trying to remember how to check the release notes out. I  
think they're in gnomeweb-wml, but I can't find them via viewcvs: I  
seem to go around in circles in there.


I really don't want to have to check out the whole module if I can  
just grab the section for the release notes.


Thanks for your help. :)

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-06 Thread Og Maciel
On 9/6/07, Daniel Nylander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 By the way, is there someone out there who have a faulty laptop battery
 and have time enough to make some localized screenshots of
 gnome-power-manager, like (1)


 (1) notes/docbook/C/figures/rnusers-powermanager-battery.png

I'd be interested in this as well... ;)
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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-06 Thread Murray Cumming

On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 16:42 +0200, Daniel Nylander wrote:
 By the way, is there someone out there who have a faulty laptop
 battery
 and have time enough to make some localized screenshots of
 gnome-power-manager, like (1)
 
 
 (1) notes/docbook/C/figures/rnusers-powermanager-battery.png

Andreas Nilsson made that screenshot. Maybe he has time to try it in
your locale.

Alternatively, maybe you could show a different part of the
gnome-power-manager. But I hope it's not too bad if one or two
screenshots are in English.

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-06 Thread Goran Rakic
У чет, 06. 09 2007. у 17:58 +0200, Murray Cumming пише:
 On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 16:42 +0200, Daniel Nylander wrote:
  By the way, is there someone out there who have a faulty laptop
  battery
  and have time enough to make some localized screenshots of
  gnome-power-manager, like (1)
  
  
  (1) notes/docbook/C/figures/rnusers-powermanager-battery.png
 
 Andreas Nilsson made that screenshot. Maybe he has time to try it in
 your locale.
 
 Alternatively, maybe you could show a different part of the
 gnome-power-manager. But I hope it's not too bad if one or two
 screenshots are in English.
 

Or you can use your GIMP skils to produce localized screenshot. :) It
may be even faster then replacing the battery.

Cheers,
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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-06 Thread Daniel Nylander
Andreas Nilsson skrev:

 Andreas Nilsson made that screenshot. Maybe he has time to try it in
 your locale.

 Alternatively, maybe you could show a different part of the
 gnome-power-manager. But I hope it's not too bad if one or two
 screenshots are in English.
   
 Hi!
 Yes, I can try to fix that, as I happen to have a faulty battery. :(
 Swedish, right?

Yes, please. I guess you're quite familiar to Swedish :-)

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-06 Thread Og Maciel
On 9/6/07, Daniel Nylander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andreas Nilsson skrev:

  Andreas Nilsson made that screenshot. Maybe he has time to try it in
  your locale.
 
  Alternatively, maybe you could show a different part of the
  gnome-power-manager. But I hope it's not too bad if one or two
  screenshots are in English.
 
  Hi!
  Yes, I can try to fix that, as I happen to have a faulty battery. :(
  Swedish, right?

Let us not forget our Brazilian friends too...  ;)
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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-06 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Murray Cumming wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 16:42 +0200, Daniel Nylander wrote:
   
 By the way, is there someone out there who have a faulty laptop
 battery
 and have time enough to make some localized screenshots of
 gnome-power-manager, like (1)


 (1) notes/docbook/C/figures/rnusers-powermanager-battery.png
 

 Andreas Nilsson made that screenshot. Maybe he has time to try it in
 your locale.

 Alternatively, maybe you could show a different part of the
 gnome-power-manager. But I hope it's not too bad if one or two
 screenshots are in English.
   
Hi!
Yes, I can try to fix that, as I happen to have a faulty battery. :(
Swedish, right?
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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-05 Thread Clytie Siddall

Hi everyone :)

I've forgotten [1] where to find the Release Notes. Are they on  
Damned Lies yet?


Thankyou for your help. :)

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-05 Thread Og Maciel
On 9/5/07, Clytie Siddall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've forgotten [1] where to find the Release Notes. Are they on
 Damned Lies yet?

Hey Clytie,

Here's the direct link: http://l10n.gnome.org/module/release-notes

Have fun! :)
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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-05 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
One more thing: in this paragraph:

 For those who really want to compile the entire desktop by hand,
 the order to compile the modules in is: libxml2, libgpg-error, ...

It looks like 'jhbuild list' output. But the meta-* packages should be
removed, right?

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-05 Thread Murray Cumming

On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 20:39 +0700, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
 One more thing: in this paragraph:
 
  For those who really want to compile the entire desktop by hand,
  the order to compile the modules in is: libxml2, libgpg-error, ...
 
 It looks like 'jhbuild list' output. But the meta-* packages should be
 removed, right?

Thanks. I will do that.

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-03 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 10:15 +, Youssef Chahibi wrote:
 Hello,
   Why isn't Arabic listed among the supported languages? 
 (http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/ar/gnome-2-20)

Because that list has not been updated. That text is based on the 2.14
release notes.

I've emailed Danilo asking if he will be able to update this list.

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-03 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
#: ../C/rnusers.xml:72(para)
msgid 
allows you to choose the Spam plugin (ulink url=\/SpamAssassin
\SpamAssassin/ulink or ulink url=\/BogoFilter\BogoFilter/ulink) 
via its preferences. And ulink url=\/SpamAssassin\SpamAssassin/ulink 
will now actually learn when you mark emails as Junk or Not Junk.

It seems the SpamAssassin and BogoFilter links do not work.
(In the final HTML page, they link to http://www.gnome.org/SpamAssassin
and http://www.gnome.org/BogoFilter respectively.)

Problably you mean http://spamassassin.apache.org/ and
http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/ .

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-03 Thread Murray Cumming

On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 20:05 +0700, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
 #: ../C/rnusers.xml:72(para)
 msgid 
 allows you to choose the Spam plugin (ulink url=\/SpamAssassin
 \SpamAssassin/ulink or ulink url=\/BogoFilter\BogoFilter/ulink) 
 via its preferences. And ulink url=\/SpamAssassin\SpamAssassin/ulink 
 will now actually learn when you mark emails as Junk or Not Junk.
 
 It seems the SpamAssassin and BogoFilter links do not work.
 (In the final HTML page, they link to http://www.gnome.org/SpamAssassin
 and http://www.gnome.org/BogoFilter respectively.)
 
 Problably you mean http://spamassassin.apache.org/ and
 http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/ .

Thanks. These links were created by the live.gnome.org export to docbook
feature. I'll fix them.

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-03 Thread gil forcada
should they be in gnome-2-20 moduleset?

El ds 01 de 09 del 2007 a les 17:06 +0200, en/na Claude Paroz va
escriure:
 Le samedi 01 septembre 2007 à 16:23 +0200, Murray Cumming a écrit :
  The GNOME 2.20 release notes are very nearly ready. A draft is here:
  http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/
  (Don't link to that until 2.20 is released, please. That would make me
  unhappy.)
  
  The string freeze for the release notes will be on September 12th, but
  you can start translating now, if you like. Here are the instructions
  that we've used in the past:
  http://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes/Translating
  
  (Note that http://l10n.gnome.org/module/release-notes does not yet show
  the 2.20 release notes status, so you will need to get the .po file from
  svn.)
 
 I just added the 2.20 release notes ref to the module. Stats will be
 updated in a few hours.
 
 Le samedi 01 septembre 2007 à 10:32 -0400, Og Maciel a écrit :
  Hey Murray,
  
  I took a quick look at http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/release-notes,
  assuming the release notes would be in the same location as the other
  packages, but got a 404. Could you lend me a hand grabbing the *.pot
  file?
  
 Hmmm... the Browse SVN link seems to be buggy. I will take a look.
 
 Claude
 
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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-03 Thread Claude Paroz
Le lundi 03 septembre 2007 à 12:52 +0200, Murray Cumming a écrit :
 On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 10:15 +, Youssef Chahibi wrote:
  Hello,
  Why isn't Arabic listed among the supported languages? 
  (http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/ar/gnome-2-20)
 
 Because that list has not been updated. That text is based on the 2.14
 release notes.
 
 I've emailed Danilo asking if he will be able to update this list.

State of supported languages as of GNOME 2.18 is here:
http://www.gnome.org/i18n/

At a quick glance, there is currently no more language to add, but it's
always difficult to anticipate the state before the effective release...

Claude

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-03 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On 9/3/07, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 20:05 +0700, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan wrote:
 
  It seems the SpamAssassin and BogoFilter links do not work.
  (In the final HTML page, they link to http://www.gnome.org/SpamAssassin
  and http://www.gnome.org/BogoFilter respectively.)
 
  Problably you mean http://spamassassin.apache.org/ and
  http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/ .

 Thanks. These links were created by the live.gnome.org export to docbook
 feature. I'll fix them.

Indeed. Thanks for fixing them. However, I've just found there still are
similar broken links left for:
  - FreeDesktop
  - OpenType
  - GtkBox
  - GtkNotebook
  - GtkTable
  - DevHelp

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-02 Thread Jorge González González
There is a wrong link about the Live CD:
You can try out GNOME 2.20 via the LiveCD which contains all of the software 
included in GNOME 2.20 on a single CD. It can be downloaded from the GNOME 
ulink url=\http://torrent.gnome.org/\;BitTorrent site/ulink or ulink 
url=\http://ftp.gnome.org/mirror/temp/gnome-livecd-2.12/\;GNOME FTP/
ulink.

I guess the live should be at 2.20. Nevermine none of those URLs work.
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Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-01 Thread Murray Cumming
The GNOME 2.20 release notes are very nearly ready. A draft is here:
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/
(Don't link to that until 2.20 is released, please. That would make me
unhappy.)

The string freeze for the release notes will be on September 12th, but
you can start translating now, if you like. Here are the instructions
that we've used in the past:
http://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes/Translating

(Note that http://l10n.gnome.org/module/release-notes does not yet show
the 2.20 release notes status, so you will need to get the .po file from
svn.)

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-01 Thread Og Maciel
Hey Murray,

I took a quick look at http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/release-notes,
assuming the release notes would be in the same location as the other
packages, but got a 404.  Could you lend me a hand grabbing the *.pot
file?

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-01 Thread Philipp Kerling
Hi,

2007/9/1, Og Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thank you for your reply.  I would have never guessed to look at
 gnomeweb-wml.  :)  Anyhow, I have the pt_BR.po file now but was
 wondering about the .pot file too.  It would be easier to msgmerge the
 release notes from the previous version. :)
Eventually you can manually run xml2po on the xml-file. Another
alternative would be to check out the whole gnomeweb-wml tree, run
configure and then make in the release-notes subdirectory. I am not
100% sure whether this methods work. Perhaps somebody else with more
experience in this can comment on this?

Regards,
Philipp Kerling

[Pasting the former mails because we both forgot to include gnome-i18n as Cc]

-

Hi,

2007/9/1, Og Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I took a quick look at http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/release-notes,
 assuming the release notes would be in the same location as the other
 packages, but got a 404.  Could you lend me a hand grabbing the *.pot
 file?


What about 
http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml/trunk/www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/
?

Regards,
Philipp Kerling



Hi Philipp,

Thank you for your reply.  I would have never guessed to look at
gnomeweb-wml.  :)  Anyhow, I have the pt_BR.po file now but was
wondering about the .pot file too.  It would be easier to msgmerge the
release notes from the previous version. :)

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-01 Thread Claude Paroz
Le samedi 01 septembre 2007 à 16:23 +0200, Murray Cumming a écrit :
 The GNOME 2.20 release notes are very nearly ready. A draft is here:
 http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/
 (Don't link to that until 2.20 is released, please. That would make me
 unhappy.)
 
 The string freeze for the release notes will be on September 12th, but
 you can start translating now, if you like. Here are the instructions
 that we've used in the past:
 http://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes/Translating
 
 (Note that http://l10n.gnome.org/module/release-notes does not yet show
 the 2.20 release notes status, so you will need to get the .po file from
 svn.)

I just added the 2.20 release notes ref to the module. Stats will be
updated in a few hours.

Le samedi 01 septembre 2007 à 10:32 -0400, Og Maciel a écrit :
 Hey Murray,
 
 I took a quick look at http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/release-notes,
 assuming the release notes would be in the same location as the other
 packages, but got a 404. Could you lend me a hand grabbing the *.pot
 file?
 
Hmmm... the Browse SVN link seems to be buggy. I will take a look.

Claude

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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-01 Thread Murray Cumming
On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 15:56 +, Philipp Kerling wrote:
 Hi,
 
 2007/9/1, Og Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Thank you for your reply.  I would have never guessed to look at
  gnomeweb-wml.  :)  Anyhow, I have the pt_BR.po file now but was
  wondering about the .pot file too.  It would be easier to msgmerge the
  release notes from the previous version. :)
 Eventually you can manually run xml2po on the xml-file.
  Another
 alternative would be to check out the whole gnomeweb-wml tree, run
 configure and then make in the release-notes subdirectory. I am not
 100% sure whether this methods work. Perhaps somebody else with more
 experience in this can comment on this?

Please update 
http://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes/Translating
with any extra necessary instructions, please.

-- 
Murray Cumming
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.murrayc.com
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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-01 Thread Philipp Kerling
Hi Murray,

2007/9/1, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Please update
 http://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes/Translating
 with any extra necessary instructions, please.
Ahh well, I didn´t know that site. Look like that's the proper way
of doing that. Anyway, are the 2.20 release notes not yet in damned
lies our is it only that I don't see them?

Regards,
Philipp Kerling
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Re: Translating the GNOME 2.20 release notes

2007-09-01 Thread Claude Paroz
Le samedi 01 septembre 2007 à 17:50 +, Philipp Kerling a écrit :
 Hi Murray,
 
 2007/9/1, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Please update
  http://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes/Translating
  with any extra necessary instructions, please.
 Ahh well, I didn´t know that site. Look like that's the proper way
 of doing that. Anyway, are the 2.20 release notes not yet in damned
 lies our is it only that I don't see them?

The update script for Damned Lies runs around 3 am UTC. When we add a
new template, we have to wait for this script to run.

Claude

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