Re: glibc a requirement? (was RE: Russian in traditional orthography support)
Op Do, 2011-09-15 om 10:51 +0300 skryf Ihar Hrachyshka: > On 09/15/2011 10:49 AM, Johannes Schmid wrote: > > Hi! > > > >> I've actually wanted to raise this topic a while ago. Why is this a > >> requirement? > > > > I think it's rather a technical problem that you cannot really set your > > environment to use a language that isn't supported by glib but I might > > be wrong. > > > > You can, localedef + custom locale file is the (official, upstream > approved!) way. But then you should also make sure your users also have > the same locale file in their setup (aka 'provide it in their Unix > distribution package). Well, I'm trying to understand this, because I think we loose possible contributors. Generating a glibc locale is a big hurdle for people to cross and a big demotivator. I have a few partial translations of GTK+ to commit for some African languages. These often don't have glibc locales, yet we support localised UIs for these languages in Virtaal through an application setting or environment variable, even on Windows where some of these languages don't have locales and might never have. We are translating loads of date and time formatting strings in every third GNOME app, and the best reason I've heard is to be able to run on other platforms (I assume Solaris and the BSDs). So it seems that even there we don't need a glibc locale. (If we really need a glibc locale, I'd love to kill a few strftime strings that we keep translating over and over). Friedel -- Recently on my blog: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/virtaal-070-released ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: glibc a requirement? (was RE: Russian in traditional orthography support)
On 09/15/2011 10:49 AM, Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi! > >> I've actually wanted to raise this topic a while ago. Why is this a >> requirement? > > I think it's rather a technical problem that you cannot really set your > environment to use a language that isn't supported by glib but I might > be wrong. > You can, localedef + custom locale file is the (official, upstream approved!) way. But then you should also make sure your users also have the same locale file in their setup (aka 'provide it in their Unix distribution package). /Ihar ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: glibc a requirement? (was RE: Russian in traditional orthography support)
Hi! > I've actually wanted to raise this topic a while ago. Why is this a > requirement? I think it's rather a technical problem that you cannot really set your environment to use a language that isn't supported by glib but I might be wrong. Regards, Johannes ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
glibc a requirement? (was RE: Russian in traditional orthography support)
Op Do, 2011-09-15 om 09:49 +0900 skryf Johannes Schmid: > Hi! > > > Also, not all translations' (and even registered teams') locales presented > > at l10n.gnome.org have glibc support, so I assume it's not a required > > prerequisite to register a team. Are there reasons we cannot assume > > "ru@petr1708" locale code not waiting for glibc support, as it's unlikely > > to change in the future? > > Can you give an example of a team that has a locale not in glib? Usually > we have this prerequirement (see > https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/NewLanguage) though it might > be ok if a bug in glibc exists for it at least. I've actually wanted to raise this topic a while ago. Why is this a requirement? Friedel -- Recently on my blog: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/virtaal-070-released ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
