Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-03-24 Thread Petr Kovar
Hi Mario,

Mario Blättermann , Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:53:35
+0100:

> Am 19.03.2013 00:43, schrieb Petr Kovar:
> > On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:31:46 +0100
> > Petr Kovar  wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, you can get the translated SVGs by building the tarball, see
> >> above. Simply run "yelp ." in gnome-help/de/ to display the translated
> >> Mallard document with included SVGs.
> >
> > Actually, the command you need to run in gnome-help/de/ is:
> >
> > yelp getting-started.page
> >
> > This is because "yelp ." expects an index.page file, but this file is
> > already installed with gnome-help from gnome-user-docs, so we can't
> > install it with getting-started.
> >
> OK, it works so far. I've just downloaded the tarball v3.7.92, and it 
> contains the translated SVG files. But what about translated webm 
> animations? They are missing from the tarball and Yelp shows empty 
> player frames only. 

AFAIK yelp should always fallback to play US English videos when there is no
translated video file available.

> I've seen it Git, the webm files are included in the 
> "figures" subfolder for the Czech language. Do I have to pre-create them 
> also for German, or is this a task for the distribution packagers (by 
> the "make" toolchain)?

We have committed the Czech files for testing purposes only. The whole
delivery mechanism that we are going to use for getting-started is still
kind of evolving; ideally, there should be a build system to trigger
rendering the translated videos whenever there is a translation commit
pushed to the repo.

So far, jimmac has had to manually re-render all videos, which takes many
hours to complete. He temporarily uploaded the videos here:

http://jimmac.fedorapeople.org/gnome3/getting-started/

We are planning to commit the translated videos on Monday when the 3.8.0
tarballs are due. Although working with large binary files like these in
Git can be really painful, we have no better solution so far - no make
target support etc. 

For translators, they don't need to do anything extra, just translate the
POT file for getting-started, which also includes the strings found in
videos.

For GNOME 3.8.0, distribution packagers will probably want to create
language packs for individual locales, as the overall package size for
getting-started would be too large otherwise. 

For those interested, there are two open bugs for this:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695792 (this is for distros that
are planning to ship the new gnome-initial-setup app)


Cheers,
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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-03-20 Thread Mario Blättermann

Am 19.03.2013 00:43, schrieb Petr Kovar:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:31:46 +0100
Petr Kovar  wrote:


Yes, you can get the translated SVGs by building the tarball, see above.
Simply run "yelp ." in gnome-help/de/ to display the translated Mallard
document with included SVGs.


Actually, the command you need to run in gnome-help/de/ is:

yelp getting-started.page

This is because "yelp ." expects an index.page file, but this file is
already installed with gnome-help from gnome-user-docs, so we can't install
it with getting-started.

OK, it works so far. I've just downloaded the tarball v3.7.92, and it 
contains the translated SVG files. But what about translated webm 
animations? They are missing from the tarball and Yelp shows empty 
player frames only. I've seen it Git, the webm files are included in the 
"figures" subfolder for the Czech language. Do I have to pre-create them 
also for German, or is this a task for the distribution packagers (by 
the "make" toolchain)?


Best Regards,
Mario
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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-03-18 Thread Petr Kovar
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:31:46 +0100
Petr Kovar  wrote:

> Yes, you can get the translated SVGs by building the tarball, see above.
> Simply run "yelp ." in gnome-help/de/ to display the translated Mallard
> document with included SVGs.

Actually, the command you need to run in gnome-help/de/ is:

yelp getting-started.page

This is because "yelp ." expects an index.page file, but this file is
already installed with gnome-help from gnome-user-docs, so we can't install
it with getting-started.

Sorry for the confusion!

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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-03-18 Thread Petr Kovar
Hi Mario,

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:20:14 +0100
Mario Blättermann  wrote:

> Am 18.03.2013 20:48, schrieb Mario Blättermann:
> > Hi Petr,
> >
> > Am 18.03.2013 20:38, schrieb Petr Kovar:
> >> Hi Mario,
> >>
> >> You recently pushed the following commit to the
> >> gnome-getting-started-docs git repo:
> >>
> >> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/commit/?id=8ff6ef7174d53ac45e68705976e81c9b22d6707b
> >>
> >>Please do not commit translated SVGs (screenshots); as I explained
> >> in an email sent to gnome-i18n (see below), all translated SVGs
> >> will be generated by a release engineer when releasing a new
> >> gnome-getting-started-docs release (one is due today).
> >>
> > OK, thanks for the hint. I've removed the SVG files from Git again.
> > You will find an archive file attached.
> >
> Sorry for the unneeded mail attachment. I've read your mail not
> carefully enough. I understand it like »send the translated files to the
> gnome-i18n mailing list«. OK, I don't have to bother anymore with a svg
> editor. But I've another question: Will the translated
> svg files compiled automatically? 

Yes, the translated SVG files will be created at build time. You can
actually build the getting-started tarball yourself to see the translated
SVGs.

Just change to your local gnome-getting-started-docs directory and run:

./autogen.sh && make

Then change to the gnome-help/de/ subdirectory to check the SVGs translated
into your language.

> I'm in doubt if this produces
> meaningful pictures. If the translated string is noticeable longer than
> the original one, it could lead to partially unreadable lines.

Yes, you can get the translated SVGs by building the tarball, see above.
Simply run "yelp ." in gnome-help/de/ to display the translated Mallard
document with included SVGs.

Thanks, 
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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-03-18 Thread Mario Blättermann

Am 18.03.2013 20:48, schrieb Mario Blättermann:

Hi Petr,

Am 18.03.2013 20:38, schrieb Petr Kovar:

Hi Mario,

You recently pushed the following commit to the
gnome-getting-started-docs git repo:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/commit/?id=8ff6ef7174d53ac45e68705976e81c9b22d6707b

Please do not commit translated SVGs (screenshots); as I explained
in an email sent to gnome-i18n (see below), all translated SVGs
will be generated by a release engineer when releasing a new
gnome-getting-started-docs release (one is due today).


OK, thanks for the hint. I've removed the SVG files from Git again.
You will find an archive file attached.


Sorry for the unneeded mail attachment. I've read your mail not
carefully enough. I understand it like »send the translated files to the
gnome-i18n mailing list«. OK, I don't have to bother anymore with a svg
editor. But I've another question: Will the translated
svg files compiled automatically? I'm in doubt if this produces
meaningful pictures. If the translated string is noticeable longer than
the original one, it could lead to partially unreadable lines.

Best Regards,
Mario
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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-03-15 Thread Petr Kovar
Hey,

Just a heads up that when translating gnome-getting-started-docs, you
should not commit the translated SVGs, instead, (re)generate them
with ./autogen.sh && make. The translated SVGs will be generated for all
available languages when releasing a new tarball. The .gitignore file is
properly set to ignore these SVGs.

See the message quoted below for more details.

Please let me know if you have any questions concerning this. 

Thanks,
Petr Kovar

 

On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:27:27 +0100
Petr Kovar  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Got a question on translated SVGs: To generate the translated SVGs that are
> used as still images for some topics, first clone the getting-started repo:
> 
> git clone git://git.gnome.org/gnome-getting-started-docs 
> 
> Then run:
> 
> cd gnome-getting-started-docs 
> ./autogen.sh
> make
> 
> Then change to the getting-started// directory to see your
> translated SVGs.
> 
> Note that depending on your distro, you may need to install some additional
> packages to run the commands successfully.
> 
> If you have more questions, please let me know. 
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Petr Kovar
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:58:08 +0100
> Petr Kovar  wrote:
> 
> > Hey,
> > 
> > Just a heads up that I moved the Getting Started guide to
> > http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/cs/gnome-3-8/doc/, under "Core".
> > 
> > Most videos are already subtitled, working on the rest...
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Petr Kovar
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:18:10 +0100
> > Petr Kovar  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey,
> > > 
> > > I sent an update on this new part of GNOME user docs to gnome-i18n back in
> > > Jan:
> > > 
> > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2013-January/msg00023.html 
> > > 
> > > With jimmac we are still working on two topics, but other than that the
> > > content is mostly there. Because the deadline for the next stable release
> > > is fast approaching, I think we can now move this doc to the official 
> > > GNOME
> > > 3.8 doc release set... 
> > > 
> > > Because shipping a large number of translated videos would greatly affect
> > > the doc tarball / package size, we will make use of Mallard's support for
> > > subtitles, which can be then translated on Damned Lies. I will try to 
> > > finish
> > > this next week, before the GNOME doc sprint starts in Brno. 
> > > 
> > > I will keep gnome-i18n updated on this.
> > > 
> > > Also, there is an open bug on support for language packs where we try to
> > > track our progress, for those who are curious or interested:
> > > 
> > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208 
> > > 
> > > And shaunm recently blogged about this on Planet.
> > > 
> > > If you have any comments, ideas, thoughts etc., please let me or gnome-i18
> > > know.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Petr Kovar
> > > 
> > > 
> > > rafael ff1 , Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:31 -0200:
> > > 
> > > > hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in
> > > > branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1]
> > > > 
> > > > But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in
> > > > english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the
> > > > video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3]
> > > > is a way to achieve translation of them...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > [1]
> > > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles
> > > > [2]
> > > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures
> > > > [3] 
> > > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Rafael Ferreira
> > > > 
> > > > 2013/2/15 Olav Vitters :
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote:
> > > > >> Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in
> > > > >> english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow?
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list.
> > > > >
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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-02-22 Thread Fran Dieguez

On Ven 22 Feb 2013 17:55:00 CET, Christian Kirbach wrote:

Am Donnerstag, den 21.02.2013, 18:26 +0100 schrieb Fran Dieguez:


I'm trying to push my Galician translations but seems that the SSH
connection is ending up due a problem. Here is what git outputs:

$ git push  -v
Pushing to git://git.gnome.org/gnome-getting-started-docs
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly


It looks like you did an anonymous clone of the repository. This does
not permit write access.

Not sure if you can change your local copy, but if you have write access
and an account, you usually clone like this:

git clone ssh://@git.gnome.org/git/gnome-getting-started-docs



You were right. I cloned the repository by using the git:// protocol.
I've just uploaded some translations for the Galician language.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-02-22 Thread Christian Kirbach
Am Donnerstag, den 21.02.2013, 18:26 +0100 schrieb Fran Dieguez:

> I'm trying to push my Galician translations but seems that the SSH 
> connection is ending up due a problem. Here is what git outputs:
> 
> $ git push  -v
> Pushing to git://git.gnome.org/gnome-getting-started-docs
> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly

It looks like you did an anonymous clone of the repository. This does
not permit write access.

Not sure if you can change your local copy, but if you have write access
and an account, you usually clone like this:

git clone ssh://@git.gnome.org/git/gnome-getting-started-docs

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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-02-21 Thread Fran Dieguez

On Xov 21 Feb 2013 17:27:27 CET, Petr Kovar wrote:

Hi all,

Got a question on translated SVGs: To generate the translated SVGs that are
used as still images for some topics, first clone the getting-started repo:

git clone git://git.gnome.org/gnome-getting-started-docs

Then run:

cd gnome-getting-started-docs
./autogen.sh
make

Then change to the getting-started// directory to see your
translated SVGs.

Note that depending on your distro, you may need to install some additional
packages to run the commands successfully.

If you have more questions, please let me know.

Hope that helps,
Petr Kovar



On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:58:08 +0100
Petr Kovar  wrote:


Hey,

Just a heads up that I moved the Getting Started guide to
http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/cs/gnome-3-8/doc/, under "Core".

Most videos are already subtitled, working on the rest...

Cheers,
Petr Kovar


On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:18:10 +0100
Petr Kovar  wrote:


Hey,

I sent an update on this new part of GNOME user docs to gnome-i18n back in
Jan:

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2013-January/msg00023.html

With jimmac we are still working on two topics, but other than that the
content is mostly there. Because the deadline for the next stable release
is fast approaching, I think we can now move this doc to the official GNOME
3.8 doc release set...

Because shipping a large number of translated videos would greatly affect
the doc tarball / package size, we will make use of Mallard's support for
subtitles, which can be then translated on Damned Lies. I will try to finish
this next week, before the GNOME doc sprint starts in Brno.

I will keep gnome-i18n updated on this.

Also, there is an open bug on support for language packs where we try to
track our progress, for those who are curious or interested:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208

And shaunm recently blogged about this on Planet.

If you have any comments, ideas, thoughts etc., please let me or gnome-i18
know.

Cheers,
Petr Kovar


rafael ff1 , Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:31 -0200:


hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in
branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1]

But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in
english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the
video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language.

Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3]
is a way to achieve translation of them...


[1]
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles
[2]
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures
[3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation


Rafael Ferreira

2013/2/15 Olav Vitters :

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote:

Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in
english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow?


I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list.

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Regards,
Olav





I'm trying to push my Galician translations but seems that the SSH 
connection is ending up due a problem. Here is what git outputs:


$ git push  -v
Pushing to git://git.gnome.org/gnome-getting-started-docs
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly

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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-02-21 Thread Petr Kovar
Hi all,

Got a question on translated SVGs: To generate the translated SVGs that are
used as still images for some topics, first clone the getting-started repo:

git clone git://git.gnome.org/gnome-getting-started-docs 

Then run:

cd gnome-getting-started-docs 
./autogen.sh
make

Then change to the getting-started// directory to see your
translated SVGs.

Note that depending on your distro, you may need to install some additional
packages to run the commands successfully.

If you have more questions, please let me know. 

Hope that helps,
Petr Kovar



On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:58:08 +0100
Petr Kovar  wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> Just a heads up that I moved the Getting Started guide to
> http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/cs/gnome-3-8/doc/, under "Core".
> 
> Most videos are already subtitled, working on the rest...
> 
> Cheers,
> Petr Kovar
> 
> 
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:18:10 +0100
> Petr Kovar  wrote:
> 
> > Hey,
> > 
> > I sent an update on this new part of GNOME user docs to gnome-i18n back in
> > Jan:
> > 
> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2013-January/msg00023.html 
> > 
> > With jimmac we are still working on two topics, but other than that the
> > content is mostly there. Because the deadline for the next stable release
> > is fast approaching, I think we can now move this doc to the official GNOME
> > 3.8 doc release set... 
> > 
> > Because shipping a large number of translated videos would greatly affect
> > the doc tarball / package size, we will make use of Mallard's support for
> > subtitles, which can be then translated on Damned Lies. I will try to finish
> > this next week, before the GNOME doc sprint starts in Brno. 
> > 
> > I will keep gnome-i18n updated on this.
> > 
> > Also, there is an open bug on support for language packs where we try to
> > track our progress, for those who are curious or interested:
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208 
> > 
> > And shaunm recently blogged about this on Planet.
> > 
> > If you have any comments, ideas, thoughts etc., please let me or gnome-i18
> > know.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Petr Kovar
> > 
> > 
> > rafael ff1 , Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:31 -0200:
> > 
> > > hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in
> > > branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1]
> > > 
> > > But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in
> > > english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the
> > > video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language.
> > > 
> > > Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3]
> > > is a way to achieve translation of them...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [1]
> > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles
> > > [2]
> > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures
> > > [3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Rafael Ferreira
> > > 
> > > 2013/2/15 Olav Vitters :
> > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote:
> > > >> Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in
> > > >> english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow?
> > > >
> > > > I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Olav


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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-02-20 Thread Petr Kovar
Hey,

Just a heads up that I moved the Getting Started guide to
http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/cs/gnome-3-8/doc/, under "Core".

Most videos are already subtitled, working on the rest...

Cheers,
Petr Kovar


On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:18:10 +0100
Petr Kovar  wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> I sent an update on this new part of GNOME user docs to gnome-i18n back in
> Jan:
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2013-January/msg00023.html 
> 
> With jimmac we are still working on two topics, but other than that the
> content is mostly there. Because the deadline for the next stable release
> is fast approaching, I think we can now move this doc to the official GNOME
> 3.8 doc release set... 
> 
> Because shipping a large number of translated videos would greatly affect
> the doc tarball / package size, we will make use of Mallard's support for
> subtitles, which can be then translated on Damned Lies. I will try to finish
> this next week, before the GNOME doc sprint starts in Brno. 
> 
> I will keep gnome-i18n updated on this.
> 
> Also, there is an open bug on support for language packs where we try to
> track our progress, for those who are curious or interested:
> 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208 
> 
> And shaunm recently blogged about this on Planet.
> 
> If you have any comments, ideas, thoughts etc., please let me or gnome-i18
> know.
> 
> Cheers,
> Petr Kovar
> 
> 
> rafael ff1 , Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:31 -0200:
> 
> > hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in
> > branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1]
> > 
> > But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in
> > english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the
> > video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language.
> > 
> > Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3]
> > is a way to achieve translation of them...
> > 
> > 
> > [1]
> > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles
> > [2]
> > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures
> > [3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation
> > 
> > 
> > Rafael Ferreira
> > 
> > 2013/2/15 Olav Vitters :
> > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote:
> > >> Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in
> > >> english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow?
> > >
> > > I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Olav
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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-02-17 Thread rafael ff1
Hi Petr,

Sorry, I didn't see this message. Even though I'm new in this mail
list I might have skipped this mail and, for sure, didn't went in this
mail list's archive to look for it... (oops) :)

But thanks for your so informative reply. I'll follow this more
closely and if I have any suggestion/feedback I'll let you know. For
now, pt_BR translations are done.

Cheers,
Rafael Ferreria

2013/2/17 Petr Kovar :
> Hey,
>
> I sent an update on this new part of GNOME user docs to gnome-i18n back in
> Jan:
>
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2013-January/msg00023.html
>
> With jimmac we are still working on two topics, but other than that the
> content is mostly there. Because the deadline for the next stable release
> is fast approaching, I think we can now move this doc to the official GNOME
> 3.8 doc release set...
>
> Because shipping a large number of translated videos would greatly affect
> the doc tarball / package size, we will make use of Mallard's support for
> subtitles, which can be then translated on Damned Lies. I will try to finish
> this next week, before the GNOME doc sprint starts in Brno.
>
> I will keep gnome-i18n updated on this.
>
> Also, there is an open bug on support for language packs where we try to
> track our progress, for those who are curious or interested:
>
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208
>
> And shaunm recently blogged about this on Planet.
>
> If you have any comments, ideas, thoughts etc., please let me or gnome-i18
> know.
>
> Cheers,
> Petr Kovar
>
>
> rafael ff1 , Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:31 -0200:
>
>> hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in
>> branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1]
>>
>> But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in
>> english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the
>> video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language.
>>
>> Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3]
>> is a way to achieve translation of them...
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles
>> [2]
>> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures
>> [3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation
>>
>>
>> Rafael Ferreira
>>
>> 2013/2/15 Olav Vitters :
>> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote:
>> >> Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in
>> >> english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow?
>> >
>> > I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Olav
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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-02-17 Thread Petr Kovar
Hey,

I sent an update on this new part of GNOME user docs to gnome-i18n back in
Jan:

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2013-January/msg00023.html 

With jimmac we are still working on two topics, but other than that the
content is mostly there. Because the deadline for the next stable release
is fast approaching, I think we can now move this doc to the official GNOME
3.8 doc release set... 

Because shipping a large number of translated videos would greatly affect
the doc tarball / package size, we will make use of Mallard's support for
subtitles, which can be then translated on Damned Lies. I will try to finish
this next week, before the GNOME doc sprint starts in Brno. 

I will keep gnome-i18n updated on this.

Also, there is an open bug on support for language packs where we try to
track our progress, for those who are curious or interested:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208 

And shaunm recently blogged about this on Planet.

If you have any comments, ideas, thoughts etc., please let me or gnome-i18
know.

Cheers,
Petr Kovar


rafael ff1 , Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:31 -0200:

> hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in
> branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1]
> 
> But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in
> english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the
> video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language.
> 
> Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3]
> is a way to achieve translation of them...
> 
> 
> [1]
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles
> [2]
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures
> [3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation
> 
> 
> Rafael Ferreira
> 
> 2013/2/15 Olav Vitters :
> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote:
> >> Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in
> >> english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow?
> >
> > I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Olav
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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-02-16 Thread rafael ff1
hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in
branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1]

But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in
english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the
video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language.

Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3]
is a way to achieve translation of them...


[1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles
[2] 
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures
[3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation


Rafael Ferreira

2013/2/15 Olav Vitters :
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote:
>> Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in
>> english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow?
>
> I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Olav
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Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-02-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote:
> Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in
> english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow?

I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list.

-- 
Regards,
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"gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation

2013-02-14 Thread rafael ff1
Hi there,

Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in
english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow?

Cheers,
Rafael Ferreira
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