Re: gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
Am 19.03.2013 00:43, schrieb Petr Kovar: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:31:46 +0100 Petr Kovar pk...@volny.cz wrote: Yes, you can get the translated SVGs by building the tarball, see above. Simply run yelp . in gnome-help/de/ to display the translated Mallard document with included SVGs. Actually, the command you need to run in gnome-help/de/ is: yelp getting-started.page This is because yelp . expects an index.page file, but this file is already installed with gnome-help from gnome-user-docs, so we can't install it with getting-started. OK, it works so far. I've just downloaded the tarball v3.7.92, and it contains the translated SVG files. But what about translated webm animations? They are missing from the tarball and Yelp shows empty player frames only. I've seen it Git, the webm files are included in the figures subfolder for the Czech language. Do I have to pre-create them also for German, or is this a task for the distribution packagers (by the make toolchain)? Best Regards, Mario ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
Hi Mario, On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:20:14 +0100 Mario Blättermann mario.blaetterm...@gmail.com wrote: Am 18.03.2013 20:48, schrieb Mario Blättermann: Hi Petr, Am 18.03.2013 20:38, schrieb Petr Kovar: Hi Mario, You recently pushed the following commit to the gnome-getting-started-docs git repo: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/commit/?id=8ff6ef7174d53ac45e68705976e81c9b22d6707b Please do not commit translated SVGs (screenshots); as I explained in an email sent to gnome-i18n (see below), all translated SVGs will be generated by a release engineer when releasing a new gnome-getting-started-docs release (one is due today). OK, thanks for the hint. I've removed the SVG files from Git again. You will find an archive file attached. Sorry for the unneeded mail attachment. I've read your mail not carefully enough. I understand it like »send the translated files to the gnome-i18n mailing list«. OK, I don't have to bother anymore with a svg editor. But I've another question: Will the translated svg files compiled automatically? Yes, the translated SVG files will be created at build time. You can actually build the getting-started tarball yourself to see the translated SVGs. Just change to your local gnome-getting-started-docs directory and run: ./autogen.sh make Then change to the gnome-help/de/ subdirectory to check the SVGs translated into your language. I'm in doubt if this produces meaningful pictures. If the translated string is noticeable longer than the original one, it could lead to partially unreadable lines. Yes, you can get the translated SVGs by building the tarball, see above. Simply run yelp . in gnome-help/de/ to display the translated Mallard document with included SVGs. Thanks, Petr Kovar ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
Hey, Just a heads up that when translating gnome-getting-started-docs, you should not commit the translated SVGs, instead, (re)generate them with ./autogen.sh make. The translated SVGs will be generated for all available languages when releasing a new tarball. The .gitignore file is properly set to ignore these SVGs. See the message quoted below for more details. Please let me know if you have any questions concerning this. Thanks, Petr Kovar On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:27:27 +0100 Petr Kovar pk...@volny.cz wrote: Hi all, Got a question on translated SVGs: To generate the translated SVGs that are used as still images for some topics, first clone the getting-started repo: git clone git://git.gnome.org/gnome-getting-started-docs Then run: cd gnome-getting-started-docs ./autogen.sh make Then change to the getting-started/your_lang/ directory to see your translated SVGs. Note that depending on your distro, you may need to install some additional packages to run the commands successfully. If you have more questions, please let me know. Hope that helps, Petr Kovar On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:58:08 +0100 Petr Kovar pk...@volny.cz wrote: Hey, Just a heads up that I moved the Getting Started guide to http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/cs/gnome-3-8/doc/, under Core. Most videos are already subtitled, working on the rest... Cheers, Petr Kovar On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:18:10 +0100 Petr Kovar pmko...@gnome.org wrote: Hey, I sent an update on this new part of GNOME user docs to gnome-i18n back in Jan: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2013-January/msg00023.html With jimmac we are still working on two topics, but other than that the content is mostly there. Because the deadline for the next stable release is fast approaching, I think we can now move this doc to the official GNOME 3.8 doc release set... Because shipping a large number of translated videos would greatly affect the doc tarball / package size, we will make use of Mallard's support for subtitles, which can be then translated on Damned Lies. I will try to finish this next week, before the GNOME doc sprint starts in Brno. I will keep gnome-i18n updated on this. Also, there is an open bug on support for language packs where we try to track our progress, for those who are curious or interested: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208 And shaunm recently blogged about this on Planet. If you have any comments, ideas, thoughts etc., please let me or gnome-i18 know. Cheers, Petr Kovar rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com, Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:31 -0200: hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1] But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language. Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3] is a way to achieve translation of them... [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles [2] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures [3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation Rafael Ferreira 2013/2/15 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote: Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow? I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list. ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
Am Donnerstag, den 21.02.2013, 18:26 +0100 schrieb Fran Dieguez: I'm trying to push my Galician translations but seems that the SSH connection is ending up due a problem. Here is what git outputs: $ git push -v Pushing to git://git.gnome.org/gnome-getting-started-docs fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly It looks like you did an anonymous clone of the repository. This does not permit write access. Not sure if you can change your local copy, but if you have write access and an account, you usually clone like this: git clone ssh://username@git.gnome.org/git/gnome-getting-started-docs -- Christian Kirbach ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
On Ven 22 Feb 2013 17:55:00 CET, Christian Kirbach wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 21.02.2013, 18:26 +0100 schrieb Fran Dieguez: I'm trying to push my Galician translations but seems that the SSH connection is ending up due a problem. Here is what git outputs: $ git push -v Pushing to git://git.gnome.org/gnome-getting-started-docs fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly It looks like you did an anonymous clone of the repository. This does not permit write access. Not sure if you can change your local copy, but if you have write access and an account, you usually clone like this: git clone ssh://username@git.gnome.org/git/gnome-getting-started-docs You were right. I cloned the repository by using the git:// protocol. I've just uploaded some translations for the Galician language. Thanks for the help. -- Fran Dieguez ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
Hey, Just a heads up that I moved the Getting Started guide to http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/cs/gnome-3-8/doc/, under Core. Most videos are already subtitled, working on the rest... Cheers, Petr Kovar On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:18:10 +0100 Petr Kovar pmko...@gnome.org wrote: Hey, I sent an update on this new part of GNOME user docs to gnome-i18n back in Jan: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2013-January/msg00023.html With jimmac we are still working on two topics, but other than that the content is mostly there. Because the deadline for the next stable release is fast approaching, I think we can now move this doc to the official GNOME 3.8 doc release set... Because shipping a large number of translated videos would greatly affect the doc tarball / package size, we will make use of Mallard's support for subtitles, which can be then translated on Damned Lies. I will try to finish this next week, before the GNOME doc sprint starts in Brno. I will keep gnome-i18n updated on this. Also, there is an open bug on support for language packs where we try to track our progress, for those who are curious or interested: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208 And shaunm recently blogged about this on Planet. If you have any comments, ideas, thoughts etc., please let me or gnome-i18 know. Cheers, Petr Kovar rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com, Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:31 -0200: hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1] But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language. Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3] is a way to achieve translation of them... [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles [2] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures [3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation Rafael Ferreira 2013/2/15 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote: Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow? I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list. -- Regards, Olav ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
Hey, I sent an update on this new part of GNOME user docs to gnome-i18n back in Jan: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2013-January/msg00023.html With jimmac we are still working on two topics, but other than that the content is mostly there. Because the deadline for the next stable release is fast approaching, I think we can now move this doc to the official GNOME 3.8 doc release set... Because shipping a large number of translated videos would greatly affect the doc tarball / package size, we will make use of Mallard's support for subtitles, which can be then translated on Damned Lies. I will try to finish this next week, before the GNOME doc sprint starts in Brno. I will keep gnome-i18n updated on this. Also, there is an open bug on support for language packs where we try to track our progress, for those who are curious or interested: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208 And shaunm recently blogged about this on Planet. If you have any comments, ideas, thoughts etc., please let me or gnome-i18 know. Cheers, Petr Kovar rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com, Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:31 -0200: hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1] But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language. Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3] is a way to achieve translation of them... [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles [2] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures [3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation Rafael Ferreira 2013/2/15 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote: Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow? I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list. -- Regards, Olav ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n - End of Original Message - ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
Hi Petr, Sorry, I didn't see this message. Even though I'm new in this mail list I might have skipped this mail and, for sure, didn't went in this mail list's archive to look for it... (oops) :) But thanks for your so informative reply. I'll follow this more closely and if I have any suggestion/feedback I'll let you know. For now, pt_BR translations are done. Cheers, Rafael Ferreria 2013/2/17 Petr Kovar pmko...@gnome.org: Hey, I sent an update on this new part of GNOME user docs to gnome-i18n back in Jan: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2013-January/msg00023.html With jimmac we are still working on two topics, but other than that the content is mostly there. Because the deadline for the next stable release is fast approaching, I think we can now move this doc to the official GNOME 3.8 doc release set... Because shipping a large number of translated videos would greatly affect the doc tarball / package size, we will make use of Mallard's support for subtitles, which can be then translated on Damned Lies. I will try to finish this next week, before the GNOME doc sprint starts in Brno. I will keep gnome-i18n updated on this. Also, there is an open bug on support for language packs where we try to track our progress, for those who are curious or interested: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208 And shaunm recently blogged about this on Planet. If you have any comments, ideas, thoughts etc., please let me or gnome-i18 know. Cheers, Petr Kovar rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com, Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:31 -0200: hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1] But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language. Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3] is a way to achieve translation of them... [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles [2] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures [3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation Rafael Ferreira 2013/2/15 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote: Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow? I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list. -- Regards, Olav ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n - End of Original Message - ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
hm, don't think so. AFAIK, the latest news on allowing subtitles is in branch 'wip/subtitles' and it has one experimental commit [1] But actually, these videos don't have voice, they have texts in english [2], so one would have to translate the text and provide the video in WebM already translated, which is available in CS language. Maybe using Blender to edit text in the .blend files in animation [3] is a way to achieve translation of them... [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/log/?h=wip/subtitles [2] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/getting-started/C/figures [3] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-getting-started-docs/tree/animation Rafael Ferreira 2013/2/15 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote: Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow? I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list. -- Regards, Olav ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 05:56:20PM -0200, rafael ff1 wrote: Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow? I thought it could be subtitled? CC'ing gnome-doc-list. -- Regards, Olav ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
gnome-getting-started-docs video translation
Hi there, Translating this module, I notice it has videos in WebM that are in english. Is there a easy way to localize it somehow? Cheers, Rafael Ferreira ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
