Re: gnome-keyring string change request

2011-03-08 Thread Stef Walter
On 03/08/2011 07:54 PM, Claude Paroz wrote:
> Le mardi 08 mars 2011 à 19:33 +0100, Stef Walter a écrit :
>> I'd like to request to add the following strings to gnome-keyring:
>>
>> +_Name=Keyring Access
>> +_Comment=Unlock access to passwords and other secrets
>>
>> These are necessary to fix the following for GNOME 3:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643229
>>
>> Thank you for considering this request.
> 
> Please go ahead. We still didn't apply the freeze flag on
> l10n.gnome.org :-)

Thanks. Done.

Cheers,

Stef
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Re: gnome-keyring string change request

2011-03-08 Thread Claude Paroz
Le mardi 08 mars 2011 à 19:33 +0100, Stef Walter a écrit :
> I'd like to request to add the following strings to gnome-keyring:
> 
> +_Name=Keyring Access
> +_Comment=Unlock access to passwords and other secrets
> 
> These are necessary to fix the following for GNOME 3:
> 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643229
> 
> Thank you for considering this request.

Please go ahead. We still didn't apply the freeze flag on
l10n.gnome.org :-)

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gnome-keyring string change request

2011-03-08 Thread Stef Walter
I'd like to request to add the following strings to gnome-keyring:

+_Name=Keyring Access
+_Comment=Unlock access to passwords and other secrets

These are necessary to fix the following for GNOME 3:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643229

Thank you for considering this request.

Stef
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gnome-keyring string change

2008-09-01 Thread Stéphane Raimbault
Stef has forgotten to announce this change, hopefully he has submitted
the change just before the deadline!

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547271
It replaces 'Cannot set a random seed' to 'Unable to initialize the
random number generator'.

Stéphane
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Re: Requesting approval for applying patch (gnome-keyring string change)

2006-02-18 Thread Danilo Šegan
Hi guys,

I've decided to stop spamming r-t and gnome-doc-list with this.

Today at 16:28, Claudio Saavedra wrote:

> It would be very sad to see this bug in a shiped desktop knowing that it
> could have been solved.

Let me play your part in this drama:

It would be very sad to see untranslated labels in a shipped desktop
knowing that it could have been stopped.


It's not about "only two strings", it's about 100 modules x "only two
strings" x 50 language translations.  And it's about being predictable
("ok, I need to translate this, I have time today, lets finish it,
it's a string freeze so it can't change").

Do we have to explain why is there a string-freeze over and over again?
The easiest indication that something is not important enough is that
it was present in our previous release cycle as well, and that it had
a bug reported on it in Bugzilla long before string freeze started.
This was not my call, it was the call of maintainers and users!


I understand your frustration, but that's why Gnome is on a 6-month
release cycle.  Look, it will be fixed in the release slated for
September, 2006: that's only 7 months from today (what other software
this complicated can you plan that much ahead for?).

Cheers,
Danilo
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Re: Requesting approval for applying patch (gnome-keyring string change)

2006-02-18 Thread Danilo Šegan
Today at 16:18, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote:

> I must ask you to please reconsider, Danilo. What do you say?

Only if you explain why wasn't this a problem in 2.12 cycle[1]?  How come
we survived?  How come it was sitting in Bugzilla 3 months, and nobody
cared about it?  Is it that serious a bug that it needn't be fixed 3
months ago, but it's essential to fix it during the string freeze?

String freeze is not "lets fix our string bugs" period.

[1] If I am not mistaking, and this has indeed been in 2.12 as well.

Cheers,
Danilo
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Re: Requesting approval for applying patch (gnome-keyring string change)

2006-02-18 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
Em Sáb, 2006-02-18 às 16:28 +0100, Claudio Saavedra escreveu:
> >From the HIG, Chapter 6, section "Text entry fields" [1]:
> 
>   "Label the entry field with a text label above it or to its left,
>using sentence capitalization. Provide an access key in the label
>that allows the user to give focus directly to the entry field."
> 
> It would be very sad to see this bug in a shiped desktop knowing that it
> could have been solved.

Precisely. And it shouldn't be hard for translators to catch up with
this change. It would be great if this had been fixed before the freeze,
but well, it wasn't. We're still at bug fixing stage, and a serious UI
problem depends on this string freeze break, it should really be
allowed.

Cheers,

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Re: Requesting approval for applying patch (gnome-keyring string change)

2006-02-18 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 13:18 -0200, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote:
> Em Sáb, 2006-02-18 às 14:13 +0100, Danilo Šegan escreveu:
> (...)
> > At this time, I am not convinced it's worth breaking the freeze for
> > this.
> 
> We still have 25 days before the final release (with tarballs being due
> 2 days before that), and will have lower quality software because of the
> string freeze? This is not a vanity addition, it's really a usability
> issue. I haven't looked for it, but I guess the HIG probably says
> something about entries floating around with no indication of what they
> are for.

>From the HIG, Chapter 6, section "Text entry fields" [1]:

  "Label the entry field with a text label above it or to its left,
   using sentence capitalization. Provide an access key in the label
   that allows the user to give focus directly to the entry field."

It would be very sad to see this bug in a shiped desktop knowing that it
could have been solved.

Claudio

[1] http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/controls-entry.html

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Re: Requesting approval for applying patch (gnome-keyring string change)

2006-02-18 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
Em Sáb, 2006-02-18 às 14:13 +0100, Danilo Šegan escreveu:
> Yesterday at 21:21, John Palmieri wrote:
> 
> > Looks good to me. What does the i18n team say?
> 
> At this time, I am not convinced it's worth breaking the freeze for
> this.

We still have 25 days before the final release (with tarballs being due
2 days before that), and will have lower quality software because of the
string freeze? This is not a vanity addition, it's really a usability
issue. I haven't looked for it, but I guess the HIG probably says
something about entries floating around with no indication of what they
are for.

I must ask you to please reconsider, Danilo. What do you say?

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Re: Requesting approval for applying patch (gnome-keyring string change)

2006-02-18 Thread Danilo Šegan
Yesterday at 21:21, John Palmieri wrote:

> Looks good to me. What does the i18n team say?

At this time, I am not convinced it's worth breaking the freeze for
this.

Even if it seems like an ugly bug, it has been present for pretty
long.  String bugs sitting in Bugzilla for 3 months are best fixed
outside string freeze.


> CC'ing: gnome-doc-list@gnome.org, gnome-i18n@gnome.org
>
> On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 16:31 +0100, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
>> Hey,
>> 
>> A patch for gnome-keyring's bug #323269 [1] changes a dialog and adds
>> two strings.
>> 
>> The main reason for asking you for permission to break the freeze is
>> that current dialog shows two text entries without explicitly saying
>> what they are for (see the bug report for more info). This may lead some
>> users to confusion.

Cheers,
Danilo
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Re: Requesting approval for applying patch (gnome-keyring string change)

2006-02-17 Thread Joachim Noreiko

--- "John (J5) Palmieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Looks good to me. What does the i18n team say?
> 
> CC'ing: gnome-doc-list@gnome.org,
> gnome-i18n@gnome.org
> 
> On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 16:31 +0100, Claudio Saavedra
> wrote:
> > Hey,
> > 
> > A patch for gnome-keyring's bug #323269 [1]
> changes a dialog and adds
> > two strings.
> > 
> > The main reason for asking you for permission to
> break the freeze is
> > that current dialog shows two text entries without
> explicitly saying
> > what they are for (see the bug report for more
> info). This may lead some
> > users to confusion.
> > 
> > Maintainer already approved the patch, so what do
> you think?

gnome-keyring has no docs, so this is fine.





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Re: Requesting approval for applying patch (gnome-keyring string change)

2006-02-17 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
Looks good to me. What does the i18n team say?

CC'ing: gnome-doc-list@gnome.org, gnome-i18n@gnome.org

On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 16:31 +0100, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> A patch for gnome-keyring's bug #323269 [1] changes a dialog and adds
> two strings.
> 
> The main reason for asking you for permission to break the freeze is
> that current dialog shows two text entries without explicitly saying
> what they are for (see the bug report for more info). This may lead some
> users to confusion.
> 
> Maintainer already approved the patch, so what do you think?
> 
> Claudio
> 
> [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323269
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