shell freeze break request

2011-09-06 Thread Ray Strode 
Hey guys,

There are a few bugs that I think would be really worthwhile to get in
for a better 3.2 login story:

Fingerprint reader support for login.  We had this feature in 3.0, but
I didn't get it added in the initial cut of the shell based greeter.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657823

Shutdown menu.  The initial design for the login screen lacked a way
to power off the machine (without first logging in).  Given we've
historically told people one way to power off the machine is to first
log out, this is kind of contradictory.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657822

Logo.  The old fallback login screen has a way to specify an optional
logo at the login screen.  This was added for site administrators to
brand their lab machines, and distros also use it to add branding.  We
don't want to show any sort of logo by default, so this one would only
get shown after changing a gsettings key.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658062

Thoughts?

--Ray
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-06 Thread Matthias Clasen 
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Ray Strode  wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> There are a few bugs that I think would be really worthwhile to get in
> for a better 3.2 login story:
>
> Fingerprint reader support for login.  We had this feature in 3.0, but
> I didn't get it added in the initial cut of the shell based greeter.
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657823
>
> Shutdown menu.  The initial design for the login screen lacked a way
> to power off the machine (without first logging in).  Given we've
> historically told people one way to power off the machine is to first
> log out, this is kind of contradictory.
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657822
>
> Logo.  The old fallback login screen has a way to specify an optional
> logo at the login screen.  This was added for site administrators to
> brand their lab machines, and distros also use it to add branding.  We
> don't want to show any sort of logo by default, so this one would only
> get shown after changing a gsettings key.
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658062
>
> Thoughts?

Seeing screenshots would make it much easier to judge the ui impact of
these. I'm in favour of accepting all three of these, anyway, since
they address what would otherwise be seen as regressions in going from
the classical gdm greeter to the shell greeter.
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-06 Thread Ray Strode 
(resending because my attachments were too big for the lists)

Hi,

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Matthias Clasen
 wrote:
> Seeing screenshots would make it much easier to judge the ui impact of
> these. I'm in favour of accepting all three of these, anyway, since
> they address what would otherwise be seen as regressions in going from
> the classical gdm greeter to the shell greeter.
here are two screenshots:

1) showing the power menu and mythical  "Swift Labs" header. You could
also imagine a Fedora logo or whatever there instead (or  the default
of nothing at all)
http://people.gnome.org/~halfline/power.png
2) Showing the very limited UI for fingerprint (or swipe finger).  If
you swipe your finger it logs you in. If you misswipe it doesn't.
http://people.gnome.org/~halfline/fingerprint.png

--Ray
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-07 Thread Kenneth Nielsen 

Den 06-09-2011 22:48, Ray Strode skrev:

Hey guys,

There are a few bugs that I think would be really worthwhile to get in
for a better 3.2 login story:

Fingerprint reader support for login.  We had this feature in 3.0, but
I didn't get it added in the initial cut of the shell based greeter.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657823

Shutdown menu.  The initial design for the login screen lacked a way
to power off the machine (without first logging in).  Given we've
historically told people one way to power off the machine is to first
log out, this is kind of contradictory.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657822

Logo.  The old fallback login screen has a way to specify an optional
logo at the login screen.  This was added for site administrators to
brand their lab machines, and distros also use it to add branding.  We
don't want to show any sort of logo by default, so this one would only
get shown after changing a gsettings key.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658062

Thoughts?


From a translation point of view, I know that we (danish team) have to 
give the gnome-shell translation an iteration more in any case, so 
without judging the importance of these changes I wouldn't be apposed to 
them. But there might off course be a lot of other languages that 
already completed them, that would end up with some extra work.


\Kenneth
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-07 Thread Og Maciel 
On 09/07/2011 04:19 AM, Kenneth Nielsen wrote:
> From a translation point of view, I know that we (danish team) have to
> give the gnome-shell translation an iteration more in any case, so
> without judging the importance of these changes I wouldn't be apposed to
> them. But there might off course be a lot of other languages that
> already completed them, that would end up with some extra work.

Agreed. How many new strings are we talking about (ballpark figure)?
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-07 Thread Javier Jardón 
On 6 September 2011 21:48, Ray Strode  wrote:
> Hey guys,

Hello Ray,

> There are a few bugs that I think would be really worthwhile to get in
> for a better 3.2 login story:
>
> Fingerprint reader support for login.  We had this feature in 3.0, but
> I didn't get it added in the initial cut of the shell based greeter.
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657823

+1 from me

> Shutdown menu.  The initial design for the login screen lacked a way
> to power off the machine (without first logging in).  Given we've
> historically told people one way to power off the machine is to first
> log out, this is kind of contradictory.
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657822

+1 from me, but I guess we are going to revise this for 3.4

> Logo.  The old fallback login screen has a way to specify an optional
> logo at the login screen.  This was added for site administrators to
> brand their lab machines, and distros also use it to add branding.  We
> don't want to show any sort of logo by default, so this one would only
> get shown after changing a gsettings key.
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658062

+1 if the designers agree

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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-07 Thread William Jon McCann 
Hi,

2011/9/7 Javier Jardón :
> On 6 September 2011 21:48, Ray Strode  wrote:
>> Logo.  The old fallback login screen has a way to specify an optional
>> logo at the login screen.  This was added for site administrators to
>> brand their lab machines, and distros also use it to add branding.  We
>> don't want to show any sort of logo by default, so this one would only
>> get shown after changing a gsettings key.
>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658062
>
> +1 if the designers agree

What does it look like?

Jon
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-07 Thread Florian Müllner 
Hey,

2011/9/7 William Jon McCann 

> What does it look like?
>


2011/9/6 Ray Strode 

> http://people.gnome.org/~halfline/fingerprint.png


(the screenshot name is confusing, but the logo is there)


Florian
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-07 Thread Florian Müllner 
2011/9/7 Florian Müllner 

> Hey,
>
> 2011/9/7 William Jon McCann 
>
>> What does it look like?
>>
>
>
> 2011/9/6 Ray Strode 
>
>> http://people.gnome.org/~halfline/power.png
>
>
> Sorry, it was actually the other one :-(
>
> Florian
>
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-07 Thread Ray Strode 
Hi,

2011/9/7 William Jon McCann :
>>> Logo.  The old fallback login screen has a way to specify an optional
>>> logo at the login screen.  This was added for site administrators to
>>> brand their lab machines, and distros also use it to add branding.  We
>>> don't want to show any sort of logo by default, so this one would only
>>> get shown after changing a gsettings key.
>>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658062
>>
>> +1 if the designers agree
>
> What does it look like?
As Florian pointed out, i stuffed it in the power screenshot so I
wouldn't have to do 3 different ones:

http://people.gnome.org/~halfline/power.png

But don't pay too much attention to the logo. It's a mythical logo I
spent 5 minutes in the gimp making.

Here's one with a fedora logo:

http://people.gnome.org/~halfline/logo.png

and of course here's what it looks like by default with no
vendor/admin overrides:

http://people.gnome.org/~halfline/nologo.png

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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-07 Thread Piotr Drąg 
2011/9/6 Ray Strode :
> There are a few bugs that I think would be really worthwhile to get in
> for a better 3.2 login story:
>
> Thoughts?
>

While you are changing strings anyway, could it be possible to include
a patch to fix ambiguous strings in that code[1]? It's really
necessary in many languages, including mine (Polish).

Thanks in advance.

[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658414

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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-07 Thread Ray Strode 
Hi,

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Piotr Drąg  wrote:
> While you are changing strings anyway, could it be possible to include
> a patch to fix ambiguous strings in that code[1]? It's really
> necessary in many languages, including mine (Polish).
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658414
I can't imagine this patch will cause problems. It doesn't change any UI, etc.
It is technically a string freeze break though, so I think you'll need
to get the okay from gnome-i18n@ before committing.
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-09 Thread Gabor Kelemen 

2011-09-06 22:48 keltezéssel, Ray Strode írta:

Hey guys,

There are a few bugs that I think would be really worthwhile to get in
for a better 3.2 login story:


Seems that these are important to avoid regressions, so i18n approval 1/2.

Regards
Gabor Kelemen

Fingerprint reader support for login.  We had this feature in 3.0, but
I didn't get it added in the initial cut of the shell based greeter.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657823

Shutdown menu.  The initial design for the login screen lacked a way
to power off the machine (without first logging in).  Given we've
historically told people one way to power off the machine is to first
log out, this is kind of contradictory.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657822

Logo.  The old fallback login screen has a way to specify an optional
logo at the login screen.  This was added for site administrators to
brand their lab machines, and distros also use it to add branding.  We
don't want to show any sort of logo by default, so this one would only
get shown after changing a gsettings key.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658062

Thoughts?

--Ray
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-09 Thread Gil Forcada 
El dv 09 de 09 de 2011 a les 20:04 +0200, en/na Gabor Kelemen va
escriure:
> 2011-09-06 22:48 keltezéssel, Ray Strode írta:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > There are a few bugs that I think would be really worthwhile to get in
> > for a better 3.2 login story:
> >
> Seems that these are important to avoid regressions, so i18n approval 1/2.

Then 2/2 from i18n.

Cheers,

> Regards
> Gabor Kelemen
> > Fingerprint reader support for login.  We had this feature in 3.0, but
> > I didn't get it added in the initial cut of the shell based greeter.
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657823
> >
> > Shutdown menu.  The initial design for the login screen lacked a way
> > to power off the machine (without first logging in).  Given we've
> > historically told people one way to power off the machine is to first
> > log out, this is kind of contradictory.
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657822
> >
> > Logo.  The old fallback login screen has a way to specify an optional
> > logo at the login screen.  This was added for site administrators to
> > brand their lab machines, and distros also use it to add branding.  We
> > don't want to show any sort of logo by default, so this one would only
> > get shown after changing a gsettings key.
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658062
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > --Ray
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Re: shell freeze break request

2011-09-10 Thread Shaun McCance 
All regression fixes, two of them for already documented features. No 
objections for docs. In fact, our job will be easier if at least the first two 
go in.

Ray Strode  wrote:

>Hey guys,
>
>There are a few bugs that I think would be really worthwhile to get in
>for a better 3.2 login story:
>
>Fingerprint reader support for login.  We had this feature in 3.0, but
>I didn't get it added in the initial cut of the shell based greeter.
>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657823
>
>Shutdown menu.  The initial design for the login screen lacked a way
>to power off the machine (without first logging in).  Given we've
>historically told people one way to power off the machine is to first
>log out, this is kind of contradictory.
>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657822
>
>Logo.  The old fallback login screen has a way to specify an optional
>logo at the login screen.  This was added for site administrators to
>brand their lab machines, and distros also use it to add branding.  We
>don't want to show any sort of logo by default, so this one would only
>get shown after changing a gsettings key.
>http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658062
>
>Thoughts?
>
>--Ray
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