Re: string freeze break request for gnome-menus

2011-03-30 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 13:06 +0530, Frederic Peters wrote:
> Vincent Untz wrote:
> > It's getting really late to add strings, and we're not completely sure
> > how to deal with the new submenus from a layout perspective, so I
> > suggest we should just put the missing .desktop files in Other. And
> > we'll take time to find a solution we're really happy with for 3.2.
> > 
> > I've attached a patch to the bug:
> >  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
> >  http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=184663
> > 
> > Opinions?
> 
> Works for me.
> Frederic

Probably the least intrusive workaround for the time being, hence +1.
We can still continue discussing after 3.0.

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Re: string freeze break request for gnome-menus

2011-03-30 Thread Frederic Peters
Vincent Untz wrote:

> Le mardi 29 mars 2011, à 16:20 +0530, Andre Klapper a écrit :
> > On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 22:25 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> > > My proposal was tweak gnome-menu and put all them under existing Other
> > > category. Advantages: 
> > >   * it exists - so no need to break string freeze
> > >   * it works on both panel and shell
> > >   * it's a horrid place - so dishonour will force developer to place
> > > their stuff in a proper submenu or convert to g-c-c panel :)
> > 
> > Looks like we have to come to an agreement here as this one has a 3.0
> > target flag set...
> 
> It's getting really late to add strings, and we're not completely sure
> how to deal with the new submenus from a layout perspective, so I
> suggest we should just put the missing .desktop files in Other. And
> we'll take time to find a solution we're really happy with for 3.2.
> 
> I've attached a patch to the bug:
>  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
>  http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=184663
> 
> Opinions?

Works for me.


Frederic
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Re: string freeze break request for gnome-menus

2011-03-30 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 29 mars 2011, à 16:20 +0530, Andre Klapper a écrit :
> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 22:25 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> > My proposal was tweak gnome-menu and put all them under existing Other
> > category. Advantages: 
> >   * it exists - so no need to break string freeze
> >   * it works on both panel and shell
> >   * it's a horrid place - so dishonour will force developer to place
> > their stuff in a proper submenu or convert to g-c-c panel :)
> 
> Looks like we have to come to an agreement here as this one has a 3.0
> target flag set...

It's getting really late to add strings, and we're not completely sure
how to deal with the new submenus from a layout perspective, so I
suggest we should just put the missing .desktop files in Other. And
we'll take time to find a solution we're really happy with for 3.2.

I've attached a patch to the bug:
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
 http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=184663

Opinions?

Vincent

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>From 39c6b8a51c1ef0d4082f21c62b5c3345ebf9ab70 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Vincent Untz 
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:53:39 +0530
Subject: [PATCH] layout: Show administration tools and old capplets in Other

Right now, administration tools and capplets that used to be in the
Control Center are not accessible in any way. With this patch, they
appear in Other. While this is not perfect, this will make them
accessible until we find the right solution.

To do this, we just exclude .desktop files that match panels from the
Control Center instead of excludings the Settings category, which is too
broad.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
---
 layout/applications.menu |2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/layout/applications.menu b/layout/applications.menu
index a1a9476..9a15849 100644
--- a/layout/applications.menu
+++ b/layout/applications.menu
@@ -145,8 +145,8 @@
 
   
 Core
-Settings
 Screensaver
+X-GNOME-Settings-Panel
   
 

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Re: string freeze break request for gnome-menus

2011-03-29 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 22:25 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> My proposal was tweak gnome-menu and put all them under existing Other
> category. Advantages: 
>   * it exists - so no need to break string freeze
>   * it works on both panel and shell
>   * it's a horrid place - so dishonour will force developer to place
> their stuff in a proper submenu or convert to g-c-c panel :)

Looks like we have to come to an agreement here as this one has a 3.0
target flag set...

andre
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Re: string freeze break request for gnome-menus

2011-03-26 Thread Luca Ferretti
Il giorno sab, 26/03/2011 alle 16.00 -0400, Matthias Clasen ha scritto:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Andre Klapper  wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 21:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
> >> discusses the need to show 'Administration tools' in the menus in
> >> fallback mode somewhere.
> >> The patch to address this will add a new Settings-System.directory
> >> file containing the translated name 'Administration' for the new
> >> submenu.
> >
> >> If this is considered undoable from a translation pov at this time, we
> >> will have to lump all the administration tools into some other
> >> submenu, I guess.
> >
> > I'm unsure about this one as Luca might have a valid point here:
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061#c11
> >
> 
> Lucas comment got scrubbed by the bugzilla trouble.
> Can we try again to resolve this ?

My point was: not only stuff previously under System>Admin, but also
stuff under System>Prefs not yet ported to new g-c-c panels (notable
example: vino configuration dialog)

My proposal was tweak gnome-menu and put all them under existing Other
category. Advantages: 
  * it exists - so no need to break string freeze
  * it works on both panel and shell
  * it's a horrid place - so dishonour will force developer to place
their stuff in a proper submenu or convert to g-c-c panel :)



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Re: string freeze break request for gnome-menus

2011-03-26 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Andre Klapper  wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 21:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
>> discusses the need to show 'Administration tools' in the menus in
>> fallback mode somewhere.
>> The patch to address this will add a new Settings-System.directory
>> file containing the translated name 'Administration' for the new
>> submenu.
>
>> If this is considered undoable from a translation pov at this time, we
>> will have to lump all the administration tools into some other
>> submenu, I guess.
>
> I'm unsure about this one as Luca might have a valid point here:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061#c11
>

Lucas comment got scrubbed by the bugzilla trouble.
Can we try again to resolve this ?
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Re: string freeze break request for gnome-menus

2011-03-24 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2011-03-23 at 21:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
> discusses the need to show 'Administration tools' in the menus in
> fallback mode somewhere.
> The patch to address this will add a new Settings-System.directory
> file containing the translated name 'Administration' for the new
> submenu.

> If this is considered undoable from a translation pov at this time, we
> will have to lump all the administration tools into some other
> submenu, I guess.

I'm unsure about this one as Luca might have a valid point here:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061#c11 

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string freeze break request for gnome-menus

2011-03-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645061
discusses the need to show 'Administration tools' in the menus in
fallback mode somewhere.
The patch to address this will add a new Settings-System.directory
file containing the translated name 'Administration' for the new
submenu.

If this is considered undoable from a translation pov at this time, we
will have to lump all the administration tools into some other
submenu, I guess.
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