GNOME Shell 3.5.90

2012-08-21 Thread Florian Müllner
About GNOME Shell
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GNOME Shell provides core user interface functions for the GNOME 3
desktop, like switching to windows and launching applications. GNOME
Shell takes advantage of the capabilities of modern graphics hardware
and introduces innovative user interface concepts to provide a
visually attractive and easy to use experience.

Tarball releases are provided largely for distributions to build
packages. If you are interested in building GNOME Shell from source,
we would recommend building from version control using the build
script described at:

 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell

Not only will that give you the very latest version of this rapidly
changing project, it will be much easier than get GNOME Shell and its
dependencies to build from tarballs.

News


* Use symbolic icons for workspace switch OSD [Jon; #680738]
* Lock screen improvements:
  - Hide user menu and a11y menu in the screen lock [Giovanni; #681143]
  - Bump the lock screen slightly when pressing a key [Giovanni; #681143]
  - Constrain vertical movement of the screen shield [Giovanni; #681143]
  - Return to lock screen on idle [Giovanni; #682041]
  - Unlock screen automatically after fast-user switching [Giovanni; #682096]
  - Fix "other user" label [Ray; #681750]
* Constrain content of system modals to primary monitor [#681743]
* Respect automatic lock setting on suspend/user-switch [Giovanni; #680231]
* Improve styling of keyring prompt [Jasper; #681821]
* Do not hard-code  as overlay-key [Florian; #665547]
* Update style of attached modal dialogs [Florian; #681601]
* a11y: allow navigation on non reactive items [Alejandro; #667439, #667439]
* Implement mode-less overview design [Joost, Florian; #682109]
* Implement message-tray redesign:
  - Restyle the message tray [Ana, Allan, Florian; #677213, #682342]
  - Move the desktop upwards when showing the tray [Debarshi; #681392]
  - Add a close button to notifications [Ana, Jasper; #682253]
  - Add a keybinding to toggle the tray [Debarshi; #681392]
  - Make the tray keyboard navigable [Debarshi; #681519]
  - Add dwelling at the bottom of the screen to open the tray [Owen; #682310]
  - Don't time out banners when the user is inactive [Marina, Jasper]
  - Misc fixes and cleanups [Jasper, Marina]
* Fix showing "Next Week" on Sundays [Sebastian; #682198]
* Delay restoring IM presence until the network comes up [Florian; #677982]
* Display enterprise login hint [Ray; #681975]
* Ignore unrecognized/irrelevant network devices/connections [Dan; #682364]
* Misc bug fixes and cleanups: [Dan, Florian, Jasper, Jiro, Piotr, Rico;
  #643687, #682045, #682189]

Contributors:
  Giovanni Campagna, Allan Day, Piotr Drąg, William Jon McCann,
  Sebastian Keller, Jiro Matsuzawa, Florian Müllner, Alejandro Piñeiro,
  Debarshi Ray, Ana Risteska, Jasper St. Pierre, Ray Strode, Owen Taylor,
  Rico Tzschichholz, Joost Verdoorn, Dan Winship, Marina Zhurakhinskaya

Translations:
  Nilamdyuti Goswami [as], Daniel Mustieles [es], Yaron Shahrabani [he],
  Chao-Hsiung Liao [zh_HK, zh_TW], Tobias Endrigkeit [de], A S Alam [pa],
  Sandeep Sheshrao Shedmake [mr], Fran Diéguez [gl],
  Мирослав Николић [sr, sr@latin]



Download

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Re: Gnome Shell "Type to search" matching is slow

2012-08-21 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Olav Vitters  wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 04:02:23PM +0100, Pedro Francisco wrote:
>> Is this a known bug?
>> Is there anyway to help debug the issue?
>
> One thing that would really speed it up is changing libgnome-menus.
> There are a few changes in 3.6 that'll help, but libgnome-menus is also
> a big factor in it being slow.

I don't think that's true at all. We don't touch libgnome-menus after
we scan the menu tree originally at startup.

If anything, the big thing that we need to change is gdk-pixbuf's SVG
loader, by making pango/SVG thread-safe.

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Re: Gnome Shell "Type to search" matching is slow

2012-08-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 04:02:23PM +0100, Pedro Francisco wrote:
> Is this a known bug?
> Is there anyway to help debug the issue?

One thing that would really speed it up is changing libgnome-menus.
There are a few changes in 3.6 that'll help, but libgnome-menus is also
a big factor in it being slow.

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Re: Gnome Shell "Type to search" matching is slow

2012-08-21 Thread Pedro Francisco
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Pedro Francisco
 wrote:
> Hello!
> My method to open a new program is usually: press Super key, type
> name, click on icon.
> This process isn't as fast as it could since there is a slow down
> while I type the name and the match is done (1 or 2 seconds, >5 more
> if the CPU is busy).
>
> It would seem the text matching thread is the same as the graphical
> thread and since icons take time to be drawn the input box doesn't
> receive the keystrokes to match the rest until the icons are drawn.
> That means I have something like 'g' -> slow down -> 'e' -> less slow
> -> 'dit' before I can finally click the gedit icon.
>
> Is this a known bug?
> Is there anyway to help debug the issue?
>

It seems this is issue was already reported as
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669693 . I CC'd it. If you
need any info I'm watching this thread as well as the bug.
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Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!

2012-08-21 Thread Clemens

Am 21.08.2012 19:28, schrieb Sriram Ramkrishna:



On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Florian Scandella > wrote:



I too like how gnome-shell works. I like the clean desktop, how
you start applications and how the notifications work. I like how
gnome uses (and drives) development of freedesktop standards
instead of reinventing everything and hacking arount short term
limitations.



It's great that see people have a positive experience with gnome 
shell.  Thank you for this.


BUT, i really could not use it if it wheren't for docky. I really
don't like how the window navigation works and that there is no
easy accessible quickstart on the desktop (without extension, and
even then docky is much bette) for apps i use often.
Also, more builtin configuration options would be nice, like the
theme selection, session-properties, 



There is nothing wrong with using another external app if something 
doesn't work right for you.  I occasionally use docky myself to 
quickly run apps.  For instance, docky has support for ssh, so I can 
easily to ssh's to other machines.


I don't expect gnome-shell to address every work flow out there, 
that's why we have third party utilities.


sri

notification filtering, etc.
One thing that's bugging me is this:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664331 , but it's not
that big of a problem.
So while i'm happy with gnome-shell, i'm all for integrating some
of the most used extensions into the core, with an option to
enable/disable them.



On 21.08.2012 18 :40, Pascal Obry wrote:

Lot of people are complaining about gnome-shell, fine. But
people loving
it should also say it... So just to say that I really like
gnome-shell
and after some weeks of use I just wasn't able to go back. I'm
using
gnome-shell with GNU/Dedian since more than one years (I was
using the
first version appearing in experimental, yes there was some
issues at
this stage!).

Now I think my productivity is better. The desktop looks clean
and with
the help of some extensions (Dash to dock, All in one places, Web
search) I'm more than really happy!

Changing everything in the shell area was a big challenge and
it needs
time to *adapt* to this new desktop. I'm sure 3.6 will be even
better!

The key point is *adapt*, people not wanting to adapt will
stay with
other shells, and new comers will probably love gnome-shell,
it is not
possible to please everybody!

Keep up the great work and thanks to the dev team!

Pascal.


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*1. Ship Gnome Shell with the Dash to Dock extension and a hack to add
minimize and maximize*, so people won't have problems.


Not everybody wants to have a dock to launch application. I have never 
used the
"dock" inside the overview or dash and in the 2 days i was using that 
the dock

was the most annoying thing.
imho alt + f2 is much faster than using the mouse and click. I have only 
one extension

that changes the "look and feel" of the shell: Auto hide topbar.
Moving between windows with alt + tab and placing them on different 
workspaces is everything

i need. *

*Adding minimize/maximize buttons to the shell is quite easy:
  http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gnome+shell+minimize

again, i thing you are faster if you use settings - keyboard - minimize 
window and set

it to what every you want.*

2. Put a launcher "Change Gnome Now" to http://extensions.gnome.org/
in desktop*, so people'll click it for solutions.

A small "Getting Started" with some information about the tweak tool and 
the extensions

would be really nice.


Thanks to the gnome team for there excellent work!
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Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!

2012-08-21 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Florian Scandella wrote:

>
> I too like how gnome-shell works. I like the clean desktop, how you start
> applications and how the notifications work. I like how gnome uses (and
> drives) development of freedesktop standards instead of reinventing
> everything and hacking arount short term limitations.
>


It's great that see people have a positive experience with gnome shell.
Thank you for this.


> BUT, i really could not use it if it wheren't for docky. I really don't
> like how the window navigation works and that there is no easy accessible
> quickstart on the desktop (without extension, and even then docky is much
> bette) for apps i use often.
> Also, more builtin configuration options would be nice, like the theme
> selection, session-properties,


There is nothing wrong with using another external app if something doesn't
work right for you.  I occasionally use docky myself to quickly run apps.
For instance, docky has support for ssh, so I can easily to ssh's to other
machines.

I don't expect gnome-shell to address every work flow out there, that's why
we have third party utilities.

sri


> notification filtering, etc.
> One thing that's bugging me is this: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/**
> show_bug.cgi?id=664331 , 
> but it's not that big of a problem.
> So while i'm happy with gnome-shell, i'm all for integrating some of the
> most used extensions into the core, with an option to enable/disable them.
>
>
>
> On 21.08.2012 18:40, Pascal Obry wrote:
>
>> Lot of people are complaining about gnome-shell, fine. But people loving
>> it should also say it... So just to say that I really like gnome-shell
>> and after some weeks of use I just wasn't able to go back. I'm using
>> gnome-shell with GNU/Dedian since more than one years (I was using the
>> first version appearing in experimental, yes there was some issues at
>> this stage!).
>>
>> Now I think my productivity is better. The desktop looks clean and with
>> the help of some extensions (Dash to dock, All in one places, Web
>> search) I'm more than really happy!
>>
>> Changing everything in the shell area was a big challenge and it needs
>> time to *adapt* to this new desktop. I'm sure 3.6 will be even better!
>>
>> The key point is *adapt*, people not wanting to adapt will stay with
>> other shells, and new comers will probably love gnome-shell, it is not
>> possible to please everybody!
>>
>> Keep up the great work and thanks to the dev team!
>>
>> Pascal.
>>
>>
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Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!

2012-08-21 Thread Florian Scandella


I too like how gnome-shell works. I like the clean desktop, how you 
start applications and how the notifications work. I like how gnome uses 
(and drives) development of freedesktop standards instead of reinventing 
everything and hacking arount short term limitations.
BUT, i really could not use it if it wheren't for docky. I really don't 
like how the window navigation works and that there is no easy 
accessible quickstart on the desktop (without extension, and even then 
docky is much bette) for apps i use often.
Also, more builtin configuration options would be nice, like the theme 
selection, session-properties, notification filtering, etc.
One thing that's bugging me is this: 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664331 , but it's not that 
big of a problem.
So while i'm happy with gnome-shell, i'm all for integrating some of the 
most used extensions into the core, with an option to enable/disable them.



On 21.08.2012 18:40, Pascal Obry wrote:

Lot of people are complaining about gnome-shell, fine. But people loving
it should also say it... So just to say that I really like gnome-shell
and after some weeks of use I just wasn't able to go back. I'm using
gnome-shell with GNU/Dedian since more than one years (I was using the
first version appearing in experimental, yes there was some issues at
this stage!).

Now I think my productivity is better. The desktop looks clean and with
the help of some extensions (Dash to dock, All in one places, Web
search) I'm more than really happy!

Changing everything in the shell area was a big challenge and it needs
time to *adapt* to this new desktop. I'm sure 3.6 will be even better!

The key point is *adapt*, people not wanting to adapt will stay with
other shells, and new comers will probably love gnome-shell, it is not
possible to please everybody!

Keep up the great work and thanks to the dev team!

Pascal.



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Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!

2012-08-21 Thread Pascal Obry

Lot of people are complaining about gnome-shell, fine. But people loving
it should also say it... So just to say that I really like gnome-shell
and after some weeks of use I just wasn't able to go back. I'm using
gnome-shell with GNU/Dedian since more than one years (I was using the
first version appearing in experimental, yes there was some issues at
this stage!).

Now I think my productivity is better. The desktop looks clean and with
the help of some extensions (Dash to dock, All in one places, Web
search) I'm more than really happy!

Changing everything in the shell area was a big challenge and it needs
time to *adapt* to this new desktop. I'm sure 3.6 will be even better!

The key point is *adapt*, people not wanting to adapt will stay with
other shells, and new comers will probably love gnome-shell, it is not
possible to please everybody!

Keep up the great work and thanks to the dev team!

Pascal.

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Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!

2012-08-21 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Pedro Bessa  wrote:

>  Hi,
>
>
>
>
Hi there!  Thanks for the suggestions.  There are some short term issues
with people adjusting to GNOME shell but I think the experience is going to
improve vastly in 3.6.

I think there is an underlying debate on whether you want to make changes
up front and in your place or slowly make the conversion by putting
familiar UI components and then slowly removing them over time.

I don't know what the right way to go about it since this hasn't been done
quite this way before.

I like your idea of showing off extensions some how, but I don't think
having a launcher on the desktop is the best way as it conflicts with the
distraction free computing by adding clutter to the desktop root window.

Still interesting stuff.

sri



> There are two things you can do:
>
> *1. Ship Gnome Shell with the Dash to Dock extension and a hack to add
> minimize and maximize*, so people won't have problems.
>
>


> *2. Put a launcher "Change Gnome Now" to http://extensions.gnome.org/
> in desktop*, so people'll click it for solutions.
>
> Best regards,
> Pedro Bessa
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Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!

2012-08-21 Thread Kerrick Staley
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Pedro Bessa  wrote:
> People are probably leaving the gnome project, because
> it became bad.

For the record, I first became interested in the Gnome project when
Gnome 3 was released, because Gnome 3 is a huge step up from every
other free desktop out there now.

Gnome devs, continue being awesome!

- Kerrick
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Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!

2012-08-21 Thread Jean-Yves LENHOF

Le 2012-08-21 17:31, Pedro Bessa a écrit :

Hi,





 2. Put a launcher "Change Gnome Now" to http://extensions.gnome.org/
[1]
 in desktop, so people'll click it for solutions.



+1

I don't know if this is the right title to use, but I think extensions 
need some love.

If you don't read this mailing-list you probably don't know about it.

Even on this webpage http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/, there's nothing 
about extensions.
On Firefox, there is some advertisment about the addons possibilities. 
There's a button

in it.

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Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!

2012-08-21 Thread Pedro Bessa

Em 21-08-2012 12:36, Adam Tauno Williams escreveu:

On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 12:31 -0300, Pedro Bessa wrote:

You're receiving lots of complaints, because of Gnome Shell's
usability problems.

I've posted several messages about how great it is, and read several
such messages from other users.

People are probably leaving the gnome project, because
it became bad.



http://extensions.gnome.org/ has personalized solutions to Gnome
Shell's usability problems, so you can listen to all complaints.
You have to ship Gnome Shell with the gnome-shell-extensions-common
package, but that's not enough.
People will use Gnome Shell, have problems and want solutions. If the
solutions aren't visible, they'll drop or hate Gnome Shell.

Distributions - which is what users use - can choose to ship with any
extensions packaged or enabled that they like.

If distributions were doing this right, people wouldn't be complaining.



There are two things you can do:
1. Ship Gnome Shell with the Dash to Dock extension and a hack to add
minimize and maximize, so people won't have problems.

NO, PLEASE - minimize must die.

Note that if you install your extensions will will still be there after
you upgrade, etc... so you only need to ever do this once.

 People have to stop to think about what window they were using.



2. Put a launcher "Change Gnome Now" to http://extensions.gnome.org/
in desktop, so people'll click it for solutions.

Actually an "Extension" section under "System Settings" would be nice.
But perhaps that is already in a GNOME Shell more current than mine.

For real? :-D



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Re: Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!

2012-08-21 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 12:31 -0300, Pedro Bessa wrote:
> You're receiving lots of complaints, because of Gnome Shell's
> usability problems.

I've posted several messages about how great it is, and read several
such messages from other users.

> http://extensions.gnome.org/ has personalized solutions to Gnome
> Shell's usability problems, so you can listen to all complaints.
> You have to ship Gnome Shell with the gnome-shell-extensions-common 
> package, but that's not enough.
> People will use Gnome Shell, have problems and want solutions. If the
> solutions aren't visible, they'll drop or hate Gnome Shell.

Distributions - which is what users use - can choose to ship with any
extensions packaged or enabled that they like.

> There are two things you can do:
> 1. Ship Gnome Shell with the Dash to Dock extension and a hack to add 
> minimize and maximize, so people won't have problems.

NO, PLEASE - minimize must die.  

Note that if you install your extensions will will still be there after
you upgrade, etc... so you only need to ever do this once.

> 2. Put a launcher "Change Gnome Now" to http://extensions.gnome.org/ 
> in desktop, so people'll click it for solutions.

Actually an "Extension" section under "System Settings" would be nice.
But perhaps that is already in a GNOME Shell more current than mine.


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Gnome Shell Extensions isn't shipped with Gnome Shell, WHY?!

2012-08-21 Thread Pedro Bessa

Hi,

You're receiving lots of complaints, because of Gnome Shell's usability 
problems.


*http://extensions.gnome.org/* has personalized solutions to Gnome Shell's
usability problems, so you can listen to all complaints.

You have to *ship Gnome Shell with the gnome-shell-extensions-common
package, but that's not enough*.*

*People will use Gnome Shell, have problems and want solutions.**If the 
solutions

aren't visible, they'll drop or hate Gnome Shell.

There are two things you can do:

*1. Ship Gnome Shell with the Dash to Dock extension and a hack to add
minimize and maximize*, so people won't have problems.

*2. Put a launcher "Change Gnome Now" to http://extensions.gnome.org/
in desktop*, so people'll click it for solutions.

Best regards,
Pedro Bessa
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Mutter 3.5.90

2012-08-21 Thread Florian Müllner
About Mutter


Mutter is a window and compositing manager that displays and manages
your desktop via OpenGL. Mutter combines a sophisticated display
engine using the Clutter toolkit with solid window-management logic
inherited from the Metacity window manager.

While Mutter can be used stand-alone, it is primarily intended to be
used as the display core of a larger system such as GNOME Shell. For
this reason, Mutter is very extensible via plugins, which are used
both to add fancy visual effects and to rework the window management
behaviors to meet the needs of the environment.

News

* Fix logic for handling translations of the windows group [Owen; #681221]
* Handle painting inside a Clutter clone [Owen; #681953]
* Update overlay-key on settings changes [Florian; #681906]
* Add keybinding for overlay-key [Florian; #665547]
* Minor fixes and improvements [Javier, Florian]

Contributors:
  Javier Jardón, Florian Müllner, Owen Taylor

Translations:
  Sweta Kothari [gu], Muhammet Kara [tr], Khaled Hosny [ar],
  Sandeep Sheshrao Shedmake [mr]

Download

http://download.gnome.org/sources/mutter/3.5/mutter-3.5.90.tar.xz (1.6M)
sha256sum: 478245a3f5ae78e783729e0242795ff170cc9f364ffcbb43387000b673be1114
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