Re: Highlight the "Activities" button on boot

2011-10-16 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Nishant Agrwal <
nishantagrwal12...@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the oft-mentioned weaknesses of Gnome Shell, compared to other
> shells like Canonical's Unity, is that unlike its counterparts, Gnome Shell
> does not give a new user any immediate indication of how to launch
> applications or do anything, really. I understand and support the rationale
> that users are to be presented a "blank canvas" free of distractions and
> clutter, but the mentioned problem should also be addressed, so I would like
> to share this solution:
>
>
I believe GNOME Shell now starts in overview mode.  I had already brought
this up back in March or April. :)

sri
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Re: Highlight the "Activities" button on boot

2011-10-15 Thread Onyeibo Oku
On 10/15/2011 12:36 PM, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote:
> Le samedi 15 octobre 2011 à 16:34 +0530, Nishant Agrwal a écrit :
>> One of the oft-mentioned weaknesses of Gnome Shell, compared to other
>> shells like Canonical's Unity, is that unlike its counterparts, Gnome
>> Shell does not give a new user any immediate indication of how to
>> launch applications or do anything, really.
> The problem you describe only concerns the first time the user will try
> GNOME 3. Given this, I don't consider a major issue that the user might
> need a few seconds to understand where things happen. Since there are
> not many buttons to try, and that there's a big button in the top right

you mean 'left' 

> corner saying "Activities", it's reasonable to assume the user will think
> "oh, that's where I should go" before too long without highlighting.
> 

Its a valid point.  I came to know about the activities or overview mode
right from alpha/beta stage of Gnome3 dev.  Some people didn't have that
history so they'll be lost without some documentation or tutorial.  A
simple animation on start should be intuitive enough (Glow thrice)

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Re: Highlight the "Activities" button on boot

2011-10-15 Thread Onyeibo Oku
On 10/15/2011 12:04 PM, Nishant Agrwal wrote:
> One of the oft-mentioned weaknesses of Gnome Shell, compared to other
> shells like Canonical's Unity, is that unlike its counterparts, Gnome
> Shell does not give a new user any immediate indication of how to launch
> applications or do anything, really. I understand and support the
> rationale that users are to be presented a "blank canvas" free of
> distractions and clutter, but the mentioned problem should also be
> addressed, so I would like to share this solution:
> 
> *Highlight the Activities button when the computer boots up/user logs
> in*, so the user's attention is immediately directed that way. After the
> first time, the user would have figured out the function of the
> activities button, or at least understood that that is where he/she
> should go if there is nothing on the screen. The actual highlighting can
> be done in many ways, depending upon the designer's decision, as long as
> it's something to this effect:
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/Ui0WP.jpg
> 
> some suggestions:
> -Blue/Red Glow
> -Blue/Red Circle
> -"Activities" button text in blue/red
> 
> thanks you

I'd rather have the 'Activities' text slow glow+blink three times and
that's it.

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Re: Highlight the "Activities" button on boot

2011-10-15 Thread Nishant Agrwal
no, i'm just speaking from personal experience. When I first tried Gnome
Shell I thought something had gone wrong in the installation as there was
nothing familiar like icons or desktops or even a single menu.

i agree that after spending a few seconds analyzing things, a user will
invariably click on the button (as I did). My intention was to make it so
that a potential user who would,  say pick up a friends laptop and log into
the guest account, wouldn't feel discouraged to use the system because they
cannot see any visual clue as to what to do next, and go on to ask "don't
you have Windows on this thing?"

Just thought it would add a bit of polish :)
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Re: Highlight the "Activities" button on boot

2011-10-15 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le samedi 15 octobre 2011 à 16:34 +0530, Nishant Agrwal a écrit :
> One of the oft-mentioned weaknesses of Gnome Shell, compared to other
> shells like Canonical's Unity, is that unlike its counterparts, Gnome
> Shell does not give a new user any immediate indication of how to
> launch applications or do anything, really.
The problem you describe only concerns the first time the user will try
GNOME 3. Given this, I don't consider a major issue that the user might
need a few seconds to understand where things happen. Since there are
not many buttons to try, and that there's a big button in the top right
corner saying "Activities", it's reasonable to assume the user will think
"oh, that's where I should go" before too long without highlighting.

Have you done some user testing to support your thesis that it's not the
case?


Regards

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Highlight the "Activities" button on boot

2011-10-15 Thread Nishant Agrwal
One of the oft-mentioned weaknesses of Gnome Shell, compared to other shells
like Canonical's Unity, is that unlike its counterparts, Gnome Shell does
not give a new user any immediate indication of how to launch applications
or do anything, really. I understand and support the rationale that users
are to be presented a "blank canvas" free of distractions and clutter, but
the mentioned problem should also be addressed, so I would like to share
this solution:

*Highlight the Activities button when the computer boots up/user logs in*,
so the user's attention is immediately directed that way. After the first
time, the user would have figured out the function of the activities button,
or at least understood that that is where he/she should go if there is
nothing on the screen. The actual highlighting can be done in many ways,
depending upon the designer's decision, as long as it's something to this
effect:

http://i.imgur.com/Ui0WP.jpg

some suggestions:
-Blue/Red Glow
-Blue/Red Circle
-"Activities" button text in blue/red

thanks you
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