Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Christian Dysthe]

On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 22:29 +0200, Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
> 
> On Aug 18, 2014 10:53 AM, "Olav Vitters"  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:59:24AM +0200, Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
> > > Excuse me if I may, but the "fix" is a workaround, a bit like
> Macbooks
> > > overheating when you close the lid so the forced the laptop to go
> to sleep
> > > so it cannot overheat. The reality is not all machines behave the
> same.
> >
> > 100% should be the maximum. The problem is elsewhere.
> Hardware/driver
> > doesn't correctly report what the 100% is. That's why you have 150%
> > settings.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Olav
> 
> Fine, but it (the bad hardware, also a thinkpad in my case) should
> still be supported, this is a regression in our case, it worked before
> and now no longer works the same. All hardware has issues, software
> should be an abstraction layer and offer the same experience where
> possible.

I completely agree. It works flawlessly in Ubuntu with Unity and in
KDE . All it would take is one little check box in the sound settings
and everyone would be able to control volume from their desktop or with
multimedia buttons regardless of whether they have flawed hardware or
not.
> 
> Regards,
> Gabriel
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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Gabriel Rossetti]

On Aug 18, 2014 10:53 AM, "Olav Vitters"  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:59:24AM +0200, Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
> > Excuse me if I may, but the "fix" is a workaround, a bit like Macbooks
> > overheating when you close the lid so the forced the laptop to go to
sleep
> > so it cannot overheat. The reality is not all machines behave the same.
>
> 100% should be the maximum. The problem is elsewhere. Hardware/driver
> doesn't correctly report what the 100% is. That's why you have 150%
> settings.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Olav

Fine, but it (the bad hardware, also a thinkpad in my case) should still be
supported, this is a regression in our case, it worked before and now no
longer works the same. All hardware has issues, software should be an
abstraction layer and offer the same experience where possible.

Regards,
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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Christian Dysthe]

On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 16:46 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > But on many machines 100% is not full volume. I have several
> > Thinkpads and they all need to be controlled above 100% for
> > sufficient volume. Why have the slider go further at all if 100%
> > should be the maximum?
> 
> Please read what I responded to.
> 
> That asserted that any distortions should be fixed as that is the root
> cause. The 150% is a workaround for bad hardware. So distortions is
> not
> a root cause.

I guess I'm not understanding hardware well enough too see the issue
with distortion. 

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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Olav Vitters]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 08:23:55AM -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Olav Vitters  wrote:
> >On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:59:24AM +0200, Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
> >> Excuse me if I may, but the "fix" is a workaround, a bit like
> >>Macbooks
> >> overheating when you close the lid so the forced the laptop to
> >>go to sleep
> >> so it cannot overheat. The reality is not all machines behave
> >>the same.
> >
> >100% should be the maximum. The problem is elsewhere. Hardware/driver
> >doesn't correctly report what the 100% is. That's why you have 150%
> >settings.
> 
> But on many machines 100% is not full volume. I have several
> Thinkpads and they all need to be controlled above 100% for
> sufficient volume. Why have the slider go further at all if 100%
> should be the maximum?

Please read what I responded to.

That asserted that any distortions should be fixed as that is the root
cause. The 150% is a workaround for bad hardware. So distortions is not
a root cause.

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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Christian Dysthe]

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On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Olav Vitters  wrote:

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:59:24AM +0200, Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
 Excuse me if I may, but the "fix" is a workaround, a bit like 
Macbooks
 overheating when you close the lid so the forced the laptop to go 
to sleep
 so it cannot overheat. The reality is not all machines behave the 
same.


100% should be the maximum. The problem is elsewhere. Hardware/driver
doesn't correctly report what the 100% is. That's why you have 150%
settings.


But on many machines 100% is not full volume. I have several Thinkpads 
and they all need to be controlled above 100% for sufficient volume. 
Why have the slider go further at all if 100% should be the maximum?



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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Christian Dysthe]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:07 AM, Joakim Soderlund 
 wrote:

Hello!

I never use my internal laptop speakers as I have external ones. Due 
to

audio quality concerns I want neither the GNOME Shell controls nor the
multimedia keys to go above 100%.

I can understand why some people would want this though. But in case 
it

is ever implemented I'd like some setting to keep it at 100% or less



That is why the solution in Ubuntu works very well: A check box in the 
sound settings to either allow or not the desktop control and 
multi-media buttons to go above 100%. Leave it to the user. You can see 
how it's done in Ubuntu here:


http://i.imgur.com/aC3FWMZ.png

It works very well and was added in 14.04.



Regards,
Joakim Söderlud


On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 08:24 +0200, drago01 wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Gabriel Rossetti
  wrote:
 >
 > On Aug 17, 2014 11:58 PM, "Michael Catanzaro" 
 wrote:

 >>
 >> On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:04 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
 >> > Hi,
 >> >
 >> > Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the 
desktop go all
 >> > the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound 
settings.
 >> > It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell 
as well.
 >> > Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have 
to go
 >> > into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a 
couple of

 >> > desktop systems as well.
 >>
 >> This is a UI failure. It doesn't make sense to set sound over 
100%. It
 >> sounds like GNOME Shell is wrong to cap the sound level lower 
than it
 >> can actually go, but Settings is also wrong for presenting the 
max sound

 >> level as less than 100%.
 >>
 >> I neither know nor care about whatever technical reason exists 
for 100%
 >> not being the end of that slider in sound settings. It just 
doesn't make

 >> sense.
 >>
 >> Michael
 >>
 >
 > Before Gnome Shell, with the old Gnome, the sound went to 100% 
visually but
 > in reality it went higher. When I installed Gnome Shell the sound 
at 100%
 > was much lower than it was before and the only way to make it 
higher was to

 > go to the sound settings and put it above 100%.
 >
 > I think this was done for sound quality, but unless I jack it up 
all the way

 > up to max the sound is fine.

 We tried that ... we let it go up to 150%
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641886 .. it caused some
 problems though see 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649411

 and then we reverted the change again
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657607
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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 09:07 +0200, Joakim Soderlund wrote: 
> I never use my internal laptop speakers as I have external ones. Due to
> audio quality concerns I want neither the GNOME Shell controls nor the
> multimedia keys to go above 100%.
> I can understand why some people would want this though. But in case it
> is ever implemented I'd like some setting to keep it at 100% or less.

Exactly.  And my original point - you can do exactly what everyone wants
- you go to Sound in Settings;  there you can go crazy doing whatever
you want, even adjust channels and applications independently.

Does anything prevent someone from making a Shell Extension which
overrides the volume control behavior?

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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Olav Vitters]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:59:24AM +0200, Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
> Excuse me if I may, but the "fix" is a workaround, a bit like Macbooks
> overheating when you close the lid so the forced the laptop to go to sleep
> so it cannot overheat. The reality is not all machines behave the same.

100% should be the maximum. The problem is elsewhere. Hardware/driver
doesn't correctly report what the 100% is. That's why you have 150%
settings.

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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Gabriel Rossetti]

On Aug 18, 2014 8:24 AM, "drago01"  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Gabriel Rossetti
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Aug 17, 2014 11:58 PM, "Michael Catanzaro" 
wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:04 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go
all
> >> > the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound
settings.
> >> > It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell as
well.
> >> > Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have to go
> >> > into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of
> >> > desktop systems as well.
> >>
> >> This is a UI failure. It doesn't make sense to set sound over 100%. It
> >> sounds like GNOME Shell is wrong to cap the sound level lower than it
> >> can actually go, but Settings is also wrong for presenting the max
sound
> >> level as less than 100%.
> >>
> >> I neither know nor care about whatever technical reason exists for 100%
> >> not being the end of that slider in sound settings. It just doesn't
make
> >> sense.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >
> > Before Gnome Shell, with the old Gnome, the sound went to 100% visually
but
> > in reality it went higher. When I installed Gnome Shell the sound at
100%
> > was much lower than it was before and the only way to make it higher
was to
> > go to the sound settings and put it above 100%.
> >
> > I think this was done for sound quality, but unless I jack it up all
the way
> > up to max the sound is fine.
>
> We tried that ... we let it go up to 150%
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641886 .. it caused some
> problems though see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649411
> and then we reverted the change again
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657607

Thanks for the info, but the problems listen in the bug report seem related
to synchronizing issues between the different ways of setting the volume.

On some machines it may distort quickly above 100% but not on others; on
those where it doesn't the issue is that at 100% the audio is really low, I
cannot watch a movie on it when there is slight background noise unless I
have headphones on, I hook up an amp, or I force the volume above 100%.

How did you manage this before gnome shell? It worked fine before. Could we
not run some sort of test program to detect distortion (automatically or
via user input) and set this as 100%?

Excuse me if I may, but the "fix" is a workaround, a bit like Macbooks
overheating when you close the lid so the forced the laptop to go to sleep
so it cannot overheat. The reality is not all machines behave the same.

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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Joakim Soderlund]

Hello!

I never use my internal laptop speakers as I have external ones. Due to
audio quality concerns I want neither the GNOME Shell controls nor the
multimedia keys to go above 100%.

I can understand why some people would want this though. But in case it
is ever implemented I'd like some setting to keep it at 100% or less.

Regards,
Joakim Söderlud


On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 08:24 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Gabriel Rossetti
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Aug 17, 2014 11:58 PM, "Michael Catanzaro"  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:04 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go all
> >> > the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound settings.
> >> > It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell as well.
> >> > Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have to go
> >> > into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of
> >> > desktop systems as well.
> >>
> >> This is a UI failure. It doesn't make sense to set sound over 100%. It
> >> sounds like GNOME Shell is wrong to cap the sound level lower than it
> >> can actually go, but Settings is also wrong for presenting the max sound
> >> level as less than 100%.
> >>
> >> I neither know nor care about whatever technical reason exists for 100%
> >> not being the end of that slider in sound settings. It just doesn't make
> >> sense.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >
> > Before Gnome Shell, with the old Gnome, the sound went to 100% visually but
> > in reality it went higher. When I installed Gnome Shell the sound at 100%
> > was much lower than it was before and the only way to make it higher was to
> > go to the sound settings and put it above 100%.
> >
> > I think this was done for sound quality, but unless I jack it up all the way
> > up to max the sound is fine.
> 
> We tried that ... we let it go up to 150%
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641886 .. it caused some
> problems though see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649411
> and then we reverted the change again
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657607
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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[drago01]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Gabriel Rossetti
 wrote:
>
> On Aug 17, 2014 11:58 PM, "Michael Catanzaro"  wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:04 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go all
>> > the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound settings.
>> > It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell as well.
>> > Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have to go
>> > into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of
>> > desktop systems as well.
>>
>> This is a UI failure. It doesn't make sense to set sound over 100%. It
>> sounds like GNOME Shell is wrong to cap the sound level lower than it
>> can actually go, but Settings is also wrong for presenting the max sound
>> level as less than 100%.
>>
>> I neither know nor care about whatever technical reason exists for 100%
>> not being the end of that slider in sound settings. It just doesn't make
>> sense.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
> Before Gnome Shell, with the old Gnome, the sound went to 100% visually but
> in reality it went higher. When I installed Gnome Shell the sound at 100%
> was much lower than it was before and the only way to make it higher was to
> go to the sound settings and put it above 100%.
>
> I think this was done for sound quality, but unless I jack it up all the way
> up to max the sound is fine.

We tried that ... we let it go up to 150%
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641886 .. it caused some
problems though see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649411
and then we reverted the change again
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657607
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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Gabriel Rossetti]

On Aug 17, 2014 11:58 PM, "Michael Catanzaro"  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:04 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go all
> > the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound settings.
> > It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell as well.
> > Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have to go
> > into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of
> > desktop systems as well.
>
> This is a UI failure. It doesn't make sense to set sound over 100%. It
> sounds like GNOME Shell is wrong to cap the sound level lower than it
> can actually go, but Settings is also wrong for presenting the max sound
> level as less than 100%.
>
> I neither know nor care about whatever technical reason exists for 100%
> not being the end of that slider in sound settings. It just doesn't make
> sense.
>
> Michael
>

Before Gnome Shell, with the old Gnome, the sound went to 100% visually but
in reality it went higher. When I installed Gnome Shell the sound at 100%
was much lower than it was before and the only way to make it higher was to
go to the sound settings and put it above 100%.

I think this was done for sound quality, but unless I jack it up all the
way up to max the sound is fine.

Maybe you could add the same look as in the sound settings, have a 100%
line but if you want to go above you can.
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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Michael Catanzaro]

On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 17:25 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> That's just a few. Now in Ubuntu 14.04 they have added an option to
> be 
> allowed to go above 100% (unamplified) from the desktop and with
> media 
> buttons. I would really like to see the same option in GNOME. I do
> not 
> care whether it's amplified or not I simply want to be able to
> control 
> my volume from the desktop and not have to enter sound settings for
> it.

There should not be a setting for this.  You should be able to set it up
all the way by default. It is a lie for Sound Settings to pretend that
100% is less than the max, and for GNOME Shell to disallow going louder
than that. Unless 100% is set to prevent hardware damage, in which case
Sound Settings should not allow going above it.


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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Christian Dysthe]

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On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Adam Tauno Williams 
 wrote:

On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 16:41 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Adam Tauno Williams
  wrote:
 > On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:07 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
 >>  Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the 
desktop go

 >> all the way up to above
 >>  100% without having to go into the sound settings. It would 
really

 >> like to see an option like
 >>  that in Gnome-Shell as well. Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is
 >> possibly to set I often have
 >>  to go into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a
 >> couple of desktop systems as
 >>  well.
 > I can increase the volume above 100% in Sound Settings, but the 
drop

 > down slider is limited to 100%.  I believe this is due what
 > what-is-more-than-max can be a channel dependent issue - in Sound
 > Settings you are adjusting the volume of the selected channel.
 That is why an option to either let you use the desktop slider to go
 above 100% or not is a good idea.


To what?  10,000% 100,000% ?   If you want to do something like this
going to settings seems reasonable to me.


To as far as the slider currently goes in the sound settings in Unity 
and GNOME. Why should there be one scale on the desktop and with media 
keys and another in the sound settings?


 > I use this regularly to be able to hear podcasts over the sound 
of the

 > dish washer.
 I have kids and need to outloud them, but need the sounds prefs to 
do

 so in Gnome! :)


You can do this in GNOME - via Sound Settings.


So you think that if you want full volume you should first slide the 
desktop slider up to 100% and then have to open sound settings and move 
it up from there? Right now every time I watch a movie I have to open 
sound settings instead of using the slider or the keys on my laptop. 
GNOME and Unity is the only to DEs who has it designed like that.





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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 16:41 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Adam Tauno Williams 
>  wrote:
> > On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:07 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> >>  Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go 
> >> all the way up to above
> >>  100% without having to go into the sound settings. It would really 
> >> like to see an option like
> >>  that in Gnome-Shell as well. Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is 
> >> possibly to set I often have
> >>  to go into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a 
> >> couple of desktop systems as
> >>  well.
> > I can increase the volume above 100% in Sound Settings, but the drop
> > down slider is limited to 100%.  I believe this is due what
> > what-is-more-than-max can be a channel dependent issue - in Sound
> > Settings you are adjusting the volume of the selected channel.
> That is why an option to either let you use the desktop slider to go 
> above 100% or not is a good idea.

To what?  10,000% 100,000% ?   If you want to do something like this
going to settings seems reasonable to me.

> > I use this regularly to be able to hear podcasts over the sound of the
> > dish washer.
> I have kids and need to outloud them, but need the sounds prefs to do 
> so in Gnome! :)

You can do this in GNOME - via Sound Settings.

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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Christian Dysthe]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Michael Catanzaro 
 wrote:

On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:04 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:

 Hi,

 Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go 
all
 the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound 
settings.
 It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell as 
well.

 Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have to go
 into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of
 desktop systems as well.


This is a UI failure. It doesn't make sense to set sound over 100%. It
sounds like GNOME Shell is wrong to cap the sound level lower than it
can actually go, but Settings is also wrong for presenting the max 
sound

level as less than 100%.


It has been like this for years in Ubuntu and GNOME for that matter. 
The desktop slider can not go beyond 100% which is about 2/3 up in 
sound settings. There's been many discussions around it:


http://askubuntu.com/questions/51156/how-can-i-reach-over-100-volume-with-a-keyboard-shortcut

http://askubuntu.com/questions/41348/why-can-the-volume-go-higher-than-100

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/7555/volume-up-down-function-keys-limited-to-gnome-volume-control-unamplified-100

That's just a few. Now in Ubuntu 14.04 they have added an option to be 
allowed to go above 100% (unamplified) from the desktop and with media 
buttons. I would really like to see the same option in GNOME. I do not 
care whether it's amplified or not I simply want to be able to control 
my volume from the desktop and not have to enter sound settings for it.





I neither know nor care about whatever technical reason exists for 
100%
not being the end of that slider in sound settings. It just doesn't 
make

sense.


Applause! I agree 100% (pun intended).



Michael


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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 16:58 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:04 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> > Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go all
> > the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound settings.
> > It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell as well.
> > Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have to go
> > into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of
> > desktop systems as well.
> This is a UI failure. It doesn't make sense to set sound over 100%.

Why?  Isn't it at some point amplification?  It seems perfectly
sensible; not all recordings are made at the same level, so the concept
of output volume is always a mutable one.

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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Michael Catanzaro]

On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:04 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go all
> the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound settings.
> It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell as well.
> Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have to go
> into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of
> desktop systems as well.

This is a UI failure. It doesn't make sense to set sound over 100%. It
sounds like GNOME Shell is wrong to cap the sound level lower than it
can actually go, but Settings is also wrong for presenting the max sound
level as less than 100%.

I neither know nor care about whatever technical reason exists for 100%
not being the end of that slider in sound settings. It just doesn't make
sense.

Michael


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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Christian Dysthe]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Adam Tauno Williams 
 wrote:

On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:07 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
 Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go 
all the way up to above
 100% without having to go into the sound settings. It would really 
like to see an option like
 that in Gnome-Shell as well. Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is 
possibly to set I often have
 to go into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a 
couple of desktop systems as

 well.


I can increase the volume above 100% in Sound Settings, but the drop
down slider is limited to 100%.  I believe this is due what
what-is-more-than-max can be a channel dependent issue - in Sound
Settings you are adjusting the volume of the selected channel.


That is why an option to either let you use the desktop slider to go 
above 100% or not is a good idea.





I use this regularly to be able to hear podcasts over the sound of the
dish washer.


I have kids and need to outloud them, but need the sounds prefs to do 
so in Gnome! :)



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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:07 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go all the 
> way up to above
> 100% without having to go into the sound settings. It would really like to 
> see an option like
> that in Gnome-Shell as well. Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to 
> set I often have
> to go into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of 
> desktop systems as
> well.

I can increase the volume above 100% in Sound Settings, but the drop
down slider is limited to 100%.  I believe this is due what
what-is-more-than-max can be a channel dependent issue - in Sound
Settings you are adjusting the volume of the selected channel.

I use this regularly to be able to hear podcasts over the sound of the
dish washer.

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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Gabriel Rossetti
 wrote:
> On Aug 17, 2014 9:04 PM, "Christian Dysthe"  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go all
>> the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound settings.
>> It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell as well.
>> Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have to go
>> into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of
>> desktop systems as well.
>>
>> --
>> //Christian
>
> I agree, I also have this issue on my laptop. Before at least I could at
> least access the sound settings easily but now I have to go the the settings
> panel.
>

I've also have this problem.  Some of it is the driver issue as well.
My laptop I don't need to do any adjusting at all, and it is well
within the 100%.  But at home, it is a different story, and I have to
pull up sound prefs to change it.

sri

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>
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Re: Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Gabriel Rossetti]

On Aug 17, 2014 9:04 PM, "Christian Dysthe"  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go all
> the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound settings.
> It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell as well.
> Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have to go
> into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of
> desktop systems as well.
>
> --
> //Christian

I agree, I also have this issue on my laptop. Before at least I could at
least access the sound settings easily but now I have to go the the
settings panel.

Gabriel
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Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Christian Dysthe]

Hi,

Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go all the way 
up to above
100% without having to go into the sound settings. It would really like to see 
an option like
that in Gnome-Shell as well. Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set 
I often have
to go into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of 
desktop systems as
well.



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Setting to allow volume above 100%

[Christian Dysthe]

Hi,

Ubuntu's Unity now allow having the volume slider on the desktop go all
the way up to above 100% without having to go into the sound settings.
It would really like to see an option like that in Gnome-Shell as well.
Since 100% is only 2/3 up what is possibly to set I often have to go
into sound setting to get it loud enough my laptops and a couple of
desktop systems as well.

-- 
//Christian

Dropbox. Your files from anywhere: http://db.tt/U8MqkVR



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