Two or three things I see coming in gnome-shell

2012-01-29 Thread informalibre montceau
Hello, I translated my text translated from French via google, I do not
know if I'm on the right list

I use Fedora 16 - 64-Bit

- Better management of virtual desktops
Problem:
When more than three windows in an office, it becomes difficult to work. In
my case, I usually click with the middle button on the title bar of a
window to the passing in the background. But when I have lots of windows I
say, It's hassle and complicated to change the windows. Then I look back
I have several offices available to me I go to work and I spread my windows
on my various offices.
Solution:
When it was launched more than three windows, the behavior of the
application launcher changes. When you click on an icon of a program, it no
longer starts in the current desktop mode but remains in activity mode. This
allows us then to distribute the application to the proper desktop.

- Better management of the screensaver
Problem:
To detect when the user is not in front of his screen, the system examines
the use of the mouse. But this is not always relevant, because I can very
well not use the mouse but watch a video with totem.
Solution
Add a button to totem to tell the system that it should not start the
standby screen and / or warn the user that the screen saver will launch and
offer to disable the screen saver time of the video.

- Better management of evolution and rhythmbox as background
Problem:
There are often many applications already launched and the two applications
should not remain there permanently open and takes up space. Yet we need to
open evolution to see if we receive new messages. And we keep open
rhythmbox since we're listening to music
Solution:
Ensure that Evolution is running in the background but without a GUI and /
or have a daemon that checks the mail. For rhythmbox, make music playback
or radio is being transferred to a body that plays the songs, Rhythmbox
will close but in this instance the notification area will continue to play
songs.

- Better device management hot
Problem
When I connect a new device, the system initiates a new instance of
nautilus even if it is already running
Solution
Open the device in a new tab

- Move the windows of other offices with the mouse
New feature:
When I move a window to the lower edge of the screen, the active mode
appears and allows me to move my window to other offices

- Management of Gnome 3 PC in the same LAN
New feature:
Allow a simple way to share documents between multiple computers under
gnome 3. I right click on a document or folder, and I check a sharing
option. It instantly appears on all computers in the network. Also allow to
send a document to a single computer network, by right click to send.

Thanks for your work

Jérôme PERRET

In french here: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=237222p=61
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Re: Two or three things I see coming in gnome-shell

2012-01-29 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 5:32 AM, informalibre montceau
informalibre.montc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, I translated my text translated from French via google, I do not know
 if I'm on the right list

 I use Fedora 16 - 64-Bit

 - Better management of virtual desktops
 Problem:
 When more than three windows in an office, it becomes difficult to work. In
 my case, I usually click with the middle button on the title bar of a window
 to the passing in the background. But when I have lots of windows I say,
 It's hassle and complicated to change the windows. Then I look back I have
 several offices available to me I go to work and I spread my windows on my
 various offices.
 Solution:
 When it was launched more than three windows, the behavior of the
 application launcher changes. When you click on an icon of a program, it no
 longer starts in the current desktop mode but remains in activity mode. This
 allows us then to distribute the application to the proper desktop.

You can already drag an application icon to a desktop, and you will
remain in activity mode.

 - Better management of the screensaver
 Problem:
 To detect when the user is not in front of his screen, the system examines
 the use of the mouse. But this is not always relevant, because I can very
 well not use the mouse but watch a video with totem.
 Solution
 Add a button to totem to tell the system that it should not start the
 standby screen and / or warn the user that the screen saver will launch and
 offer to disable the screen saver time of the video.

Totem should already be inhibiting the screensaver when it's in full-screen.

 - Better management of evolution and rhythmbox as background
 Problem:
 There are often many applications already launched and the two applications
 should not remain there permanently open and takes up space. Yet we need to
 open evolution to see if we receive new messages. And we keep open rhythmbox
 since we're listening to music
 Solution:
 Ensure that Evolution is running in the background but without a GUI and /
 or have a daemon that checks the mail. For rhythmbox, make music playback or
 radio is being transferred to a body that plays the songs, Rhythmbox will
 close but in this instance the notification area will continue to play
 songs.

Put them on their own workspace and ignore them?

 - Better device management hot
 Problem
 When I connect a new device, the system initiates a new instance of nautilus
 even if it is already running
 Solution
 Open the device in a new tab

What version of GNOME Shell are you running? You should get an
auto-mount notification, not just nautilus auto-started.

 - Move the windows of other offices with the mouse
 New feature:
 When I move a window to the lower edge of the screen, the active mode
 appears and allows me to move my window to other office

This is hard to do for various technical reasons.

 - Management of Gnome 3 PC in the same LAN
 New feature:
 Allow a simple way to share documents between multiple computers under gnome
 3. I right click on a document or folder, and I check a sharing option. It
 instantly appears on all computers in the network. Also allow to send a
 document to a single computer network, by right click to send.

Yeah, there needs to be some work towards painless sharing. How it
will be accomplished, I don't know.

 Thanks for your work

 Jérôme PERRET

 In french here: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=237222p=61


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Re: Two or three things I see coming in gnome-shell

2012-01-29 Thread Marcel
Am 29.01.2012 11:38, schrieb Jasper St. Pierre:
 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 5:32 AM, informalibre montceau
 informalibre.montc...@gmail.com wrote:
 - Better management of evolution and rhythmbox as background
 Problem:
 There are often many applications already launched and the two applications
 should not remain there permanently open and takes up space. Yet we need to
 open evolution to see if we receive new messages. And we keep open rhythmbox
 since we're listening to music
 Solution:
 Ensure that Evolution is running in the background but without a GUI and /
 or have a daemon that checks the mail. For rhythmbox, make music playback or
 radio is being transferred to a body that plays the songs, Rhythmbox will
 close but in this instance the notification area will continue to play
 songs.
 
 Put them on their own workspace and ignore them?

This is the only proposed way of using the shell that I can't really accept.
I used to put Thunderbird and Banshee on the last/lowermost desktop and
tried to ignore them. That lead to me first putting windows on the first
four desktops to be able to park the named applications on the 5th one
without having to switch over that desktop all the time. (Having 4
desktops in a row for regular use.) Now I cannot take advantage of
dynamic creation of new desktops anymore.

The new approach I use since a few weeks is starting TB/Banshee first
when I login and using the auto move windows extension to have firefox
and pidgin (most used applications on my default desktop) on the
second desktop, which acts as the main one then. Therefore, I can still
have the shell append new desktops without distracting me by switching
over desktops I'm supposed to ignore.

Both approaches are more workaround than elegant, so I would love a way
to have applications run headless. Maybe with some kind of special
indication in the dash that they are running, everything else can be
dealt with using normal notifications.

Marcel
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Re: Two or three things I see coming in gnome-shell

2012-01-29 Thread informalibre montceau
Hello Jasper

2012/1/29 Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 5:32 AM, informalibre montceau
 informalibre.montc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello, I translated my text translated from French via google, I do not
 know
  if I'm on the right list
 
  I use Fedora 16 - 64-Bit
 
  - Better management of virtual desktops
  Problem:
  When more than three windows in an office, it becomes difficult to work.
 In
  my case, I usually click with the middle button on the title bar of a
 window
  to the passing in the background. But when I have lots of windows I say,
  It's hassle and complicated to change the windows. Then I look back I
 have
  several offices available to me I go to work and I spread my windows on
 my
  various offices.
  Solution:
  When it was launched more than three windows, the behavior of the
  application launcher changes. When you click on an icon of a program, it
 no
  longer starts in the current desktop mode but remains in activity mode.
 This
  allows us then to distribute the application to the proper desktop.

 You can already drag an application icon to a desktop, and you will
 remain in activity mode.


To drag and drop, I know. But often I do not have the reflex to the
different applications on different desktop.

If once there is a lot of applications behavior change, it would allow me to
use more often the different desktop.


  - Better management of the screensaver
  Problem:
  To detect when the user is not in front of his screen, the system
 examines
  the use of the mouse. But this is not always relevant, because I can very
  well not use the mouse but watch a video with totem.
  Solution
  Add a button to totem to tell the system that it should not start the
  standby screen and / or warn the user that the screen saver will launch
 and
  offer to disable the screen saver time of the video.

 Totem should already be inhibiting the screensaver when it's in
 full-screen.



it does not work in fedora 16


  - Better management of evolution and rhythmbox as background
  Problem:
  There are often many applications already launched and the two
 applications
  should not remain there permanently open and takes up space. Yet we need
 to
  open evolution to see if we receive new messages. And we keep open
 rhythmbox
  since we're listening to music
  Solution:
  Ensure that Evolution is running in the background but without a GUI and
 /
  or have a daemon that checks the mail. For rhythmbox, make music
 playback or
  radio is being transferred to a body that plays the songs, Rhythmbox will
  close but in this instance the notification area will continue to play
  songs.

 Put them on their own workspace and ignore them?


Would have when the music plays and that is closed rhythmbox, there are only
miniaturized the bottom right. And we can make it reappear as needed. It does
not need to clutter the desktop.



  - Better device management hot
  Problem
  When I connect a new device, the system initiates a new instance of
 nautilus
  even if it is already running
  Solution
  Open the device in a new tab

 What version of GNOME Shell are you running? You should get an
 auto-mount notification, not just nautilus auto-started.


gnome-shell-3.2.1-2

In my version, when I connect a new device. A message appears at the bottom
center. When I clicked, the system gives me the device in a new instance of
nautilus. And not in a tab of an instance of nautilus already open.




  - Move the windows of other offices with the mouse
  New feature:
  When I move a window to the lower edge of the screen, the active mode
  appears and allows me to move my window to other office

 This is hard to do for various technical reasons.

 But do you think is a good idea?


  - Management of Gnome 3 PC in the same LAN
  New feature:
  Allow a simple way to share documents between multiple computers under
 gnome
  3. I right click on a document or folder, and I check a sharing option.
 It
  instantly appears on all computers in the network. Also allow to send a
  document to a single computer network, by right click to send.

 Yeah, there needs to be some work towards painless sharing. How it
 will be accomplished, I don't know.


Currently possible via nfs but difficult to do easily.
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Re: Two or three things I see coming in gnome-shell

2012-01-29 Thread clemens
hi,

 - Better management of evolution and rhythmbox as background
 Problem:
 There are often many applications already launched and the two
 applications should not remain there permanently open and takes up
 space. Yet we need to open evolution to see if we receive new
 messages. And we keep open rhythmbox since we're listening to music
 Solution:
 Ensure that Evolution is running in the background but without a GUI
 and / or have a daemon that checks the mail. For rhythmbox, make music
 playback or radio is being transferred to a body that plays the songs,
 Rhythmbox will close but in this instance the notification area will
 continue to play songs.

Music playback does not  stop if you close Rhythmbox using alt+f4 or the
x and there are some extensions that allow playback manipulation
through the notification area.

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/55/media-player-indicator/
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/54/mpris-player-control/

cheers


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Re: Two or three things I see coming in gnome-shell

2012-01-29 Thread Julien Olivier
 This is the only proposed way of using the shell that I can't really accept.
 I used to put Thunderbird and Banshee on the last/lowermost desktop and
 tried to ignore them. That lead to me first putting windows on the first
 four desktops to be able to park the named applications on the 5th one
 without having to switch over that desktop all the time. (Having 4
 desktops in a row for regular use.) Now I cannot take advantage of
 dynamic creation of new desktops anymore.
 
 The new approach I use since a few weeks is starting TB/Banshee first
 when I login and using the auto move windows extension to have firefox
 and pidgin (most used applications on my default desktop) on the
 second desktop, which acts as the main one then. Therefore, I can still
 have the shell append new desktops without distracting me by switching
 over desktops I'm supposed to ignore.
 
 Both approaches are more workaround than elegant, so I would love a way
 to have applications run headless. Maybe with some kind of special
 indication in the dash that they are running, everything else can be
 dealt with using normal notifications.
 

According to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=651347#c5 ,
Evolution 3.4 should be able run headless on its own.

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Re: Two or three things I see coming in gnome-shell

2012-01-29 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 11:32 +0100, informalibre montceau wrote:
 Hello, I translated my text translated from French via google, I do
 not know if I'm on the right list
 I use Fedora 16 - 64-Bit
 - Better management of virtual desktops
 When it was launched more than three windows, the behavior of the
 application launcher changes. When you click on an icon of a program,
 it no longer starts in the current desktop mode but remains in
 activity mode. This allows us then to distribute the application to
 the proper desktop.

You can already drag an application icon from the launcher to a
workspace to start a new instance there.

But *nothing* is going to solve the issue of too-many-things-open.  The
ability of the human mind to multitask is severely limited.

 - Better management of the screensaver
 Solution
 Add a button to totem to tell the system that it should not start the
 standby screen and / or warn the user that the screen saver will
 launch and offer to disable the screen saver time of the video.

The screensaver provides a d-bus API;  video players and the like can
disable the screen saver.  I believe most of them do when playing in
full-screen mode.

 - Better management of evolution and rhythmbox as background
 Problem:

I'm pretty sure rythymbox behaves this way already; banshee certainly
does.

 Ensure that Evolution is running in the background but without a GUI
 and / or have a daemon that checks the mail.

Evolution at least spawns the address book and calendar components as
background processes.
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Re: Two or three things I see coming in gnome-shell

2012-01-29 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.netwrote:


  Ensure that Evolution is running in the background but without a GUI and
 /
  or have a daemon that checks the mail. For rhythmbox, make music
 playback or
  radio is being transferred to a body that plays the songs, Rhythmbox will
  close but in this instance the notification area will continue to play
  songs.

 Put them on their own workspace and ignore them?
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That's what I usually do, but it's not quite optimal.  The problem is that
music players aren't a task.  I'll call them distractions in this
particular case.  They break the design because it's one of those passive
applications that we usually manage through media keys or through MPRIS or
what not.  So when they sit in their own workspace they are inserting
themselves between tasks.  So instead of going to one workspace over I
might have to go two workspaces over and skip over dead space.

The best method I've gotten is to put rhythmbox and evolution on the first
workspace since it's the only one that isn't affected by the dynamic
workspace management.  My optimal solution for music players is to
intellegently use the overview search to manage music.  An app is required
to manage songs, playlists and albums but execution could be done from the
overview using rhythmbox as a data source.  (I understand we are not using
tracker directly but through the application, so I'm respecting that)
Something along the lines of play favorite songs from led zeppelin or
awesome songs, or album Octavarium...


sri
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