Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Recognizing the GNU system as a free distro
Jason Self ja...@bluehome.net skribis: Ludovic Courtès said: Yes, I understand this, but my question was more about how this occurs technically. My understanding is that Debian-based distros provide the unmodified upstream source, with a debian/patches tree containing patches they apply. Do I get it right? Ah, I see. In the case of, say, the Linux kernel it's not really possible to provide the unmodified source code because that would mean Trisquel would be distributing that non-free software. So, their orig.tar.gz isn't the unmodified upstream source but rather the deblobbed version. Yes, but we have Linux-Libre, which exists as a project of its own and handles all that for us anyway. Thanks, Ludo’.
Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Recognizing the GNU system as a free distro
Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be skribis: Op Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:01:13 +0200 schreef l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès): My understanding is that Debian-based distros provide the unmodified upstream source, with a debian/patches tree containing patches they apply. Do I get it right? For gNewSense we do as follows. If the software recommends non-free software then 'apt-get source' will give you the unmodified upstream source + a debian/patches tree with a fix to remove the reference. If the upstream source contains blobs or non-free code then 'apt-get source' will give you the upstream source without the troublesome bits (+ a debian/patches tree if there are also issues like the former). Thanks for the explanation. I’ve come up with a plan that will allow Guix to behave similarly [0]. Ludo’. [0] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2013-09/msg00137.html
[GNU-linux-libre] etoys
Hi vrms tells me that etoys is non-free why? Thanks PD: i am removing some non-free software on Huayra GNU Linux amd64-microcode Processor microcode firmware for AMD CPUs atmel-firmware Firmware for Atmel at76c50x wireless networking chips. bluez-firmware Firmware for Bluetooth devices etoys A media-rich model, simulation construction kit and au firmware-atherosBinary firmware for Atheros wireless cards firmware-bnx2 Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtremeII firmware-bnx2x Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtreme II 10Gb firmware-brcm80211 Binary firmware for Broadcom 802.11 wireless cards firmware-intelwimax Binary firmware for Intel WiMAX Connection firmware-ipw2x00Binary firmware for Intel Pro Wireless 2100, 2200 and firmware-ivtv Binary firmware for iTVC15-family MPEG codecs (ivtv an firmware-iwlwifiBinary firmware for Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 and 802.11 firmware-libertas Binary firmware for Marvell Libertas 8xxx wireless car firmware-linux Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kerne firmware-linux-nonfree Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kerne firmware-myricomBinary firmware for Myri-10G Ethernet adapters firmware-netxen Binary firmware for QLogic Intelligent Ethernet (3000 firmware-qlogic Binary firmware for QLogic IBA7220, QLA1xxx, ISP2xxx a firmware-ralink Binary firmware for Ralink wireless cards firmware-realtekBinary firmware for Realtek wired and wireless network firmware-siano-rio Firmware for Siano MDTV Rio tuner (es libre?) huayra-tpm Libraries and Agent of Theft Deterrent intel-microcode Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs programa2mp Permite acceder y utilizae información de origen sate rar Archiver for .rar files unrar Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) zd1211-firmware Firmware images for the zd1211rw wireless driver -- Marcos Guglielmetti ▲ :: M U S I X : ▼ ((*J*)) www.musix.org.ar www.ovejafm.com www.softwarelibre.org.ar ___ Para encontrarte con activistas del movimiento social del software libre: http://listas.softwarelibre.org.ar/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/movimiento The beginning of the mistake is from growing meat for the king and wine for the church. http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC14/Fukuoka.htm
Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Recognizing the GNU system as a free distro
Ludovic Courtès said: I’ve come up with a plan that will allow Guix to behave similarly [0]. Good good. :) I do have another question about how to apply the FSDG guidelines to Guix. Specifically in the Complete Distros section it mentions that if using it requires further work or presupposes installing other software as well — then it doesn't belong in this list, even if it is free software. Guix is currently not bootable - you install it along with another distribution that is. Does this mean that Guix doesn't meet criteria until it is bootable? Or is being installable alongside a 100% free distro acceptable? Or...? I guess I'm not sure what the intention behind this part is. With Ludovic's change I think Guix would otherwise meet all of the criteria.
Re: [GNU-linux-libre] etoys
Wikipedia: As of 2010, Etoys 4 conforms to the requirements of free and open source systems, such as the various Linux distributions. It looks like it was under a non-commercial usage license.
Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Recognizing the GNU system as a free distro
Or is being installable alongside a 100% free distro acceptable? Or...? My understanding was always that a distro had to be bootable to be listed. Complete in themselves ..., and self-hosting both seem pretty clear to me. But you, or whomever, could always ask rms if you think there's an argument otherwise. I have no particular opinion personally. karl
