Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium.

2019-02-21 Thread bill-auger
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 23:10:35 +0100 Marius wrote:
> Do you feel that I have not been cooperative?

well, kinda - i have never built a guix package before, or read any
guix packaging scripts; and i fully admit that i have not looked at it
yet - i was assuming that anyone interested will need to learn this new
trick before we could even begin to discuss your work, let alone
evaluate it

are guix packaging scripts really so self-explanatory that there is
zero learning curve? - we are all busy with our things, and not
everyone reading this list is comfortable reading scheme - some are not
even developers - i was really just hoping for a brief plain language
explanation



Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium.

2019-02-21 Thread Giovanni Biscuolo
Hello all,

I really appreciate the efforts of everyone involved in checking
possible FSDG issues in Guix ungoogled-chromium, seriuosly

anyway I find this thread is way too long to be useful in addressing
FSDG issues in that package, so they can be **tacked** and 
**referenced** properly

I humbly invite anyone finding _specific_ issues to file a bug to
bug-g...@gnu.org, as I did myself here
http://issues.guix.info/issue/34605 (forwarding one behalf of Luke
report)

this will be my last message in this thread

Marius Bakke  writes:

[...]

>> ;; Note: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/h264-patent-license:
>> "use_openh264=false"
>> "rtc_use_h264=false"
>
> I'm not an expert, so I'll defer judgement on this topic to someone more
> knowledgeable.  My understanding is that the OpenH264 library in use is
> sufficiently free.  Is that incorrect?

disclaimer: I'm not an expert and not at all knowledgeable :-)

but there's no need for an expert here: the link in the above note
substantially explains that H264 [1] is patent encumbered (thus not
patent-free), anyway GNU FSDG clearly states
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.en.html#patents

--8<---cut here---start->8---
we don't generally ask free system distributions to exclude software
because of possible threats from patents.
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

nonetheless, OpenH264 is free software, so I don't see any FSDG issue in
distributing it

all above said, I do not see FSDG issues in using H264 

HTH!
Giovanni



P.S.: I'm _not_ implying that patents are not a seriuos issue, but that
discussion is OT here :-S



[1] sorry to note the onviuos: it's a video compression format, not a
software (the software is OpenH264)

-- 
Giovanni Biscuolo

Xelera IT Infrastructures


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