Re: [GNU-linux-libre] reply FSF

2019-06-20 Thread bill-auger
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:17:53 -0700 Ivan wrote:
> FSF seems to be under the impression that the linked post of
> yours raised an issue that was never resolved.
> Can you please clarify for us in what way, if any, the current
> state of Freenix is in violation of FSDG

the statements in that post were purely generalized (IF->THEN) -
i do not know if the IF condition is actually the case - i never
looked into freenix personally - the wording of my comment looks
quite clear to me; but i will re-phrase it

i dont remember exactly, but it appears to be in response to
someones concern that the freenix documentation is incomplete,
which is not a problem on its own; but that, more importantly, it
directs users to the slackware documentation to provide its
missing information

the point i made on that post was: IF that above is true THEN the
FSFs objection is the same as with debian, in that their
documentation describes how and/or recommends using non-free
software - for that reason, an FSDG distro should not direct
their users to read such documentation

that was in regards to the criteria: "shall not recommend or
lead user toward non-free"; but documentation is also related to
the "self-sufficiency" criteria, such that the distro is not
merely a "spin" of another distro, or simply a third-party repo
for another distro - it needs to be a complete distro, with all
software and documentation hosted by the project - i.e. if
slackware stopped publishing freely, freenix should be able to
continue operating completely and independently

again, i dont know what is the actual state of freenix - these
are just my interpretations of the FSDG criteria



[GNU-linux-libre] Fwd: reply FSF

2019-06-20 Thread Ivan Zaigralin
Hi Bill,

FSF seems to be under the impression that the linked post of yours raised an 
issue that was never resolved. As I told FSF before, I don't understand what 
they want us to do, because I don't understand what issue was raised. Freenix 
has no outstanding bug reports concerning freedom or FSDG.

Can you please clarify for us in what way, if any, the current state of 
Freenix is in violation of FSDG, so that we can start working on concrete 
mitigation measures.

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Subject: reply FSF
Date: Thursday, June 20, 2019, 18:36:31
From: Childebert 
To: Ivan Zaigralin 
CC: Matt Samudio 

Le Thu, 20 Jun 2019 08:21:01 -0700,
Ivan Zaigralin  a écrit :

I received the message from the FSF he say this :"With Freenix, a year
ago an issue was raised on gnu-linux-libre@ that remained unresolved
there,

https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2018-07/msg00023.html


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