Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [gnu.org #871653] End of Ututo distro

2013-11-22 Thread Marcos G.
On Friday 22 November 2013 18:23:11 Marcos G. wrote:
> On Thursday 21 November 2013 18:43:51 Tobias Platen wrote:
> > On 21.11.2013 05:59, Ineiev via RT wrote:
> > > Forwarding to gnu-linux-libre and resolving the RT.
> > > 
> > >> [helle...@gnu.org - Wed Nov 20 13:27:33 2013]:
> > >> http://proyecto.ututo.net/cmsd/ (in Spanish)
> > >> 
> > >> "Dear users, the UTUTO project that developed the first 100% libre
> > >> distribution announces that starting from December 1st 2013, it will
> > >> stop maintaining the official repositories with packages corresponding
> > >> to the ultimate version of the XS distribution, 2012.04.
> > >> 
> > >> The development team and collaborators of Project UTUTO XS is thankful
> > >> for the support over all these years.
> > >> 
> > >> Project UTUTO will keep researching and developing new techniques and
> > >> technologies to share with the Free Software community.
> > >> 
> > >> Proyecto UTUTO XS - Proyecto UTUTO"
> > 
> > UTUTO is not the only unmaintained free distro, Musix seems to be
> > unmaintained too and the latest Dynebolic is two years old.
> 
> Hi
> 
> Thanks for your concern
> 
> Musix never was unmantained, we just slowed down for some months
> 
> Now we have new versions, see our new site:
> 
> http://musixdistro.wordpress.com/
> 
> > I think it is time to start a new free multimedia distro based on
> > Trisquel and Remastersys. It should come with a low latency / realtime
> > kernel by default. Some kind of a free Ubuntustudio replacement.
> 
> Musix is this
> 
> > Tobias Platen

see


http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=musix

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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [gnu.org #871653] End of Ututo distro

2013-11-22 Thread Marcos G.
On Friday 22 November 2013 05:21:31 Jaromil wrote:
> dear Tobias,
> 
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Tobias Platen wrote:
> > UTUTO is not the only unmaintained free distro, Musix seems to be
> > unmaintained too and the latest Dynebolic is two years old.
> 
> Between the last release of dyne:bolic 1 and the first of 2 there have
> been 3 years. Between the 2.5.2 and the 3 there have been 7 years.
> 
> All our users are pretty happy of the fact our distribution doesn't
> changes continuously, also considering the complexity of *binary*
> dependencies in the multimedia field, the hunger for upgrades already
> represent a problem in other distributions that have not understood
> this. There are requests of other kind, but surely not of the
> "maintainance" I think you mean here, which would be updating packages
> like there is no tomorrow I guess.
> 
> > I think it is time to start a new free multimedia distro based on
> > Trisquel and Remastersys. It should come with a low latency / realtime
> > kernel by default. Some kind of a free Ubuntustudio replacement.
> 
> I think the day 100% free distributions will simply be a remastered and
> rebranded version of other distros, especially for complex tasks like
> multimedia production, this very scene will be dead and buried under
> deep ignorance, or surviving depending from a few who know.
> 
> Pardon mon esprit de polémique, I could detail well all the problems
> standing in the field of multimedia if we would have time, having spent
> this last 2 years and more finding our how clunky and inefficient
> maintainance of packages in Debian and Ubuntu (see frei0r-plugins...)
> 
> I wish we could have a more constructive conversation than declaring
> other's project dead and substituting them,





Ahhh, jaja, +1

Cheers!



> if you go on like this be
> sure it will be very easy to trigger even worst reactions from my side.
> 
> ciao

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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [gnu.org #871653] End of Ututo distro

2013-11-22 Thread Marcos G.
On Thursday 21 November 2013 18:43:51 Tobias Platen wrote:
> On 21.11.2013 05:59, Ineiev via RT wrote:
> > Forwarding to gnu-linux-libre and resolving the RT.
> > 
> >> [helle...@gnu.org - Wed Nov 20 13:27:33 2013]:
> >> http://proyecto.ututo.net/cmsd/ (in Spanish)
> >> 
> >> "Dear users, the UTUTO project that developed the first 100% libre
> >> distribution announces that starting from December 1st 2013, it will
> >> stop maintaining the official repositories with packages corresponding
> >> to the ultimate version of the XS distribution, 2012.04.
> >> 
> >> The development team and collaborators of Project UTUTO XS is thankful
> >> for the support over all these years.
> >> 
> >> Project UTUTO will keep researching and developing new techniques and
> >> technologies to share with the Free Software community.
> >> 
> >> Proyecto UTUTO XS - Proyecto UTUTO"
> 
> UTUTO is not the only unmaintained free distro, Musix seems to be
> unmaintained too and the latest Dynebolic is two years old.


Hi

Thanks for your concern

Musix never was unmantained, we just slowed down for some months

Now we have new versions, see our new site:

http://musixdistro.wordpress.com/
 
> I think it is time to start a new free multimedia distro based on
> Trisquel and Remastersys. It should come with a low latency / realtime
> kernel by default. Some kind of a free Ubuntustudio replacement.
> 

Musix is this



> Tobias Platen

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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] help with hosting and testing, Lunar GNU+Linux

2013-09-19 Thread Marcos G.
On Mar 17 Sep 2013 06:35:34 Marcos G. escribió:
> On Mar 17 Sep 2013 03:43:45 christophe.ja...@ouvaton.org escribió:
> > > ...and we need TESTING (in fact, it would be nice to be 100% sure that
> > > there is no propietary software still on the distro (we called it
> > > "Lunar GNU+Linux")).
> > 
> > Be aware that a distribution called Lunar already exists, see
> > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lunar.
> > 
> > Christophe
> 
> oh, thanks
> 
> maybe we can call it Viento Lunar...
> we will see
> 
> for now
> 
> just for testing
> 
> VientoLibre_GNULinux1.1a2.iso (2.39 GB)
> 
> https://mega.co.nz/#!VR8DkTLI!KmWPmEhqOrZ__jR-LBCMfgOye4NnPs92MX-WTXhfgeY


Now we have something really better:

http://lunar.org.ar/?q=node/605



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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] help with hosting and testing, Lunar GNU+Linux

2013-09-17 Thread Marcos G.
On Mar 17 Sep 2013 03:43:45 christophe.ja...@ouvaton.org escribió:
> > ...and we need TESTING (in fact, it would be nice to be 100% sure that
> > there is no propietary software still on the distro (we called it "Lunar
> > GNU+Linux")).
> 
> Be aware that a distribution called Lunar already exists, see
> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lunar.
> 
> Christophe



oh, thanks

maybe we can call it Viento Lunar...
we will see

for now

just for testing

VientoLibre_GNULinux1.1a2.iso (2.39 GB)

https://mega.co.nz/#!VR8DkTLI!KmWPmEhqOrZ__jR-LBCMfgOye4NnPs92MX-WTXhfgeY



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[GNU-linux-libre] help with hosting and testing, Lunar GNU+Linux

2013-09-16 Thread Marcos G.
Hi

I started Musix GNU+Linux 8 or 9 years ago, we did it fine and we are still on 
the road.

But, today, I am writing this mail for another reason: the Argentine "Conectar 
Igualdad"; 
3,500,000 notebooks distributed with Windows and GNU/Linux, first with Rxart 
GNU/Linux, then 
Ubuntu and Mint, and finally the state created a distro itself, called Huayra .

Huayra is no more than a privatized Debian with 30 non-free packages and other 
things, cosmetics 
and programs (assistants) to help newbies.

Then I remastered (a must) this distro removing all proprietary software.

Anyone would like to donate us FTP space to upload the ISO that weighs 2.6 GB? 
Then we would 
climb the sources, 

...and we need TESTING (in fact, it would be nice to be 100% sure that there is 
no propietary 
software still on the distro (we called it "Lunar GNU+Linux")).

I want you to be aware that it is a massive plan for adoption of free software 
in the education 
of a country, perhaps the bigger plan that has been done so far. So it is 
important that students 
and teachers have a 100% free alternative to huayra.

Thanks in advance

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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] etoys

2013-09-16 Thread Marcos G.
On Lun 16 Sep 2013 16:37:23 Matt Lee escribió:
> Wikipedia: "As of 2010, Etoys 4 conforms to the requirements of free
> and open source systems, such as the various Linux distributions."
> 
> It looks like it was under a non-commercial usage license.

thanks

and whay is it non-free on debian?

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[GNU-linux-libre] etoys

2013-09-16 Thread Marcos G.
Hi

vrms tells me that etoys is non-free


why?

Thanks


PD: i am removing some non-free software on Huayra GNU Linux

amd64-microcode Processor microcode firmware for AMD CPUs
atmel-firmware  Firmware for Atmel at76c50x wireless 
networking chips.
bluez-firmware  Firmware for Bluetooth devices
etoys   A media-rich model, simulation construction 
kit and au
firmware-atherosBinary firmware for Atheros wireless cards
firmware-bnx2   Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtremeII
firmware-bnx2x  Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtreme II 
10Gb
firmware-brcm80211  Binary firmware for Broadcom 802.11 
wireless cards
firmware-intelwimax Binary firmware for Intel WiMAX Connection
firmware-ipw2x00Binary firmware for Intel Pro Wireless 
2100, 2200 and
firmware-ivtv   Binary firmware for iTVC15-family MPEG 
codecs (ivtv an
firmware-iwlwifiBinary firmware for Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 
and 802.11
firmware-libertas   Binary firmware for Marvell Libertas 8xxx 
wireless car
firmware-linux  Binary firmware for various drivers in the 
Linux kerne
firmware-linux-nonfree  Binary firmware for various drivers in the 
Linux kerne
firmware-myricomBinary firmware for Myri-10G Ethernet 
adapters
firmware-netxen Binary firmware for QLogic Intelligent 
Ethernet (3000
firmware-qlogic Binary firmware for QLogic IBA7220, 
QLA1xxx, ISP2xxx a
firmware-ralink Binary firmware for Ralink wireless cards
firmware-realtekBinary firmware for Realtek wired and 
wireless network
firmware-siano-rio  Firmware for Siano MDTV Rio tuner
(es libre?) huayra-tpm  Libraries and Agent of Theft 
Deterrent
intel-microcode Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs
programa2mp Permite acceder y utilizae información de 
origen sate
rar Archiver for .rar files
unrar   Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)
zd1211-firmware Firmware images for the zd1211rw wireless 
driver


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