Re: [GNU-linux-libre] FSF endorsement request for Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre

[Jason Self]

Hello, I wanted to check in and report that I've not yet found any problems 
to report. I'm wondering if anyone else is looking into Hyperbola and can 
share if they've identified anything?

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] FSF endorsement request for Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre

[Jaromil]

re all,

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, André Silva wrote:

> * What is Hyperbola?
> 
> Hyperbola (https://www.hyperbola.info) is a Free Software and Free
> Culture project aiming to provide a fully free as in freedom GNU/Linux
> distribution called Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre. It is based on the
> packages of the Arch GNU/Linux plus security and stability patches of
> Debian GNU/Linux under a Long Term Support (LTS) way. Our next version
> (Milky Way v0.2) we will support OpenRC as our main dependency-based
> init instead of systemd. [2]

I haven't tested this yet, however I am very curious to see how
security patches from Debian are integrated into Arch.

>From its on-line documentation and plans Hyperbola looks like a solid
start and this is an exemplary submission. I sincerely hope it passes
the review and most importantly the distribution thrives. Its a great
addition not only to 100% free/libre distros, but also to the Init
Freedom family of distros.  Thanks for taking this step.

ciao

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] FSF endorsement request for Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre

[Dika SP]

Greeaat, another new fsf endorsed distro after long awaited years. Cant
wait to test it :)

Happy to see you back Andre (thumbs up)

Rabu, 27 September 2017, André Silva  menulis:

> Hi for all, since i've promised to Félicien begin the FSF endorsement
> request for Hyperbola after we've fixed up our services such as mailing
> lists [0] and bug-tracker [1], i'm here to begin the needed steps to do
> it; so the following lines are related about the project and our
> commitment that we, the Hyperbola Project, make to the Free Software
> Community in general and our users in particular:
>
> -
>
> * What is Hyperbola?
>
> Hyperbola (https://www.hyperbola.info) is a Free Software and Free
> Culture project aiming to provide a fully free as in freedom GNU/Linux
> distribution called Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre. It is based on the
> packages of the Arch GNU/Linux plus security and stability patches of
> Debian GNU/Linux under a Long Term Support (LTS) way. Our next version
> (Milky Way v0.2) we will support OpenRC as our main dependency-based
> init instead of systemd. [2]
>
> In short, our distro is a new paradigm:
>
> Hyperbola = Arch snapshots + Debian patches and development + OpenRC
> from Gentoo + freedom (GNU FSDG) + privacy + LTS + stability [3]
>
> * Privacy?
>
> Hyperbola's objective is to support the privacy of its community,
> therefore all software in Hyperbola will be built and patched to be
> secure from global data surveillance revealed in the publication of
> Snowden's NSA documents [4], as well as additional hardened packages
> which remove lower level protocols that may cause privacy leaks,
> metadata/fingerprinting, and vulnerabilities.
>
> * What is the meaning about a LTS distro?
>
> Long-term support (LTS) is a type of special versions or editions of
> software designed to be supported for a longer than normal period.
>
> Unlike distros such as Parabola and Arch which are rolling release
> models, our goal is extend the period of software maintenance; it also
> alters the type and frequency of software updates (patches) to reduce
> the risk, expense, and disruption of software deployment, while
> promoting the dependability of the software.
>
> * Why Hyperbola will remove systemd support in its next stable version
> if it is free software?
>
> Hyperbola's objective is to support init freedom. It is about restoring
> a sane approach to PID1, one that respects diversity and freedom of
> choice. Hyperbola refuses init systems that breaks portability, ignores
> backwards compatibility, and replaces existing services, forcing into
> adoption.
>
> * Is Hyperbola a distro based on Parabola?
>
> No, it isn't a Parabola-based distro, we are only using a blacklist
> based on Parabola to make it a fully free distro [5] and your-freedom
> that helps you identify nonfree packages that are installed on your
> system at the time of its installation, as well as protecting you from
> (accidentally) installing them.[6]
>
> We are using libretools too that is a packaging tool made by them, but
> we have plans to create a new one called hypertools adapted to use lxc
> instead of systemd-spawn. For now, coadde is developing chroot-nspawn as
> systemd-spawn replacement for libretools.
>
> * Is Hyperbola following the GNU FSDG?
>
> Yes, it is our main goal. We have a social contract [7] that is our
> commitment that we make to follow the philosophy of Free Software Movement.
>
> Also we have a wiki [8] with our documentation handled and moderated by
> our sysadmin team to follow the GNU FSDG guidelines.
>
> Another things are available to follow it are:
>
> a) Source code packages in stable [9] and testing [10] versions
> b) Source development [11]
> c) Tarballs deblobbed by us [12]
> d) Bug tracker to report freedom issues [13]
>
> * Hyperbola Social Contract says: "other free software projects are to
> be cooperated with, not competed with".
>
> Is Hyperbola doing it?
>
> Our security, developer and support teams are comprised mostly of fully
> free distros devs and activists such as Gaming4JC [14][15], Megver83
> [16][17], heckyel [18][19].
>
> It means if they need help, we are available to help them, in short it
> is help their development in another fully free distro where they are
> maintainers and otherwise they helps us too because they are in our team
> too, so our 6th amendment from our social contract is working well.
>
> -
>
> [0]:https://www.hyperbola.info/news/the-mailing-lists-are-functional-now/
> [1]:https://www.hyperbola.info/news/hypertask-and-
> hyperforum-are-functional-now/
> [2]:https://www.hyperbola.info/news/end-of-systemd-support/
> [3]:https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:hyperbola_
> packaging_guidelines
> [4]:https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/
> nov/01/snowden-nsa-files-surveillance-revelations-decoded
> 

[GNU-linux-libre] FSF endorsement request for Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre

[André Silva]

Hi for all, since i've promised to Félicien begin the FSF endorsement
request for Hyperbola after we've fixed up our services such as mailing
lists [0] and bug-tracker [1], i'm here to begin the needed steps to do
it; so the following lines are related about the project and our
commitment that we, the Hyperbola Project, make to the Free Software
Community in general and our users in particular:

-

* What is Hyperbola?

Hyperbola (https://www.hyperbola.info) is a Free Software and Free
Culture project aiming to provide a fully free as in freedom GNU/Linux
distribution called Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre. It is based on the
packages of the Arch GNU/Linux plus security and stability patches of
Debian GNU/Linux under a Long Term Support (LTS) way. Our next version
(Milky Way v0.2) we will support OpenRC as our main dependency-based
init instead of systemd. [2]

In short, our distro is a new paradigm:

Hyperbola = Arch snapshots + Debian patches and development + OpenRC
from Gentoo + freedom (GNU FSDG) + privacy + LTS + stability [3]

* Privacy?

Hyperbola's objective is to support the privacy of its community,
therefore all software in Hyperbola will be built and patched to be
secure from global data surveillance revealed in the publication of
Snowden's NSA documents [4], as well as additional hardened packages
which remove lower level protocols that may cause privacy leaks,
metadata/fingerprinting, and vulnerabilities.

* What is the meaning about a LTS distro?

Long-term support (LTS) is a type of special versions or editions of
software designed to be supported for a longer than normal period.

Unlike distros such as Parabola and Arch which are rolling release
models, our goal is extend the period of software maintenance; it also
alters the type and frequency of software updates (patches) to reduce
the risk, expense, and disruption of software deployment, while
promoting the dependability of the software.

* Why Hyperbola will remove systemd support in its next stable version
if it is free software?

Hyperbola's objective is to support init freedom. It is about restoring
a sane approach to PID1, one that respects diversity and freedom of
choice. Hyperbola refuses init systems that breaks portability, ignores
backwards compatibility, and replaces existing services, forcing into
adoption.

* Is Hyperbola a distro based on Parabola?

No, it isn't a Parabola-based distro, we are only using a blacklist
based on Parabola to make it a fully free distro [5] and your-freedom
that helps you identify nonfree packages that are installed on your
system at the time of its installation, as well as protecting you from
(accidentally) installing them.[6]

We are using libretools too that is a packaging tool made by them, but
we have plans to create a new one called hypertools adapted to use lxc
instead of systemd-spawn. For now, coadde is developing chroot-nspawn as
systemd-spawn replacement for libretools.

* Is Hyperbola following the GNU FSDG?

Yes, it is our main goal. We have a social contract [7] that is our
commitment that we make to follow the philosophy of Free Software Movement.

Also we have a wiki [8] with our documentation handled and moderated by
our sysadmin team to follow the GNU FSDG guidelines.

Another things are available to follow it are:

a) Source code packages in stable [9] and testing [10] versions
b) Source development [11]
c) Tarballs deblobbed by us [12]
d) Bug tracker to report freedom issues [13]

* Hyperbola Social Contract says: "other free software projects are to
be cooperated with, not competed with".

Is Hyperbola doing it?

Our security, developer and support teams are comprised mostly of fully
free distros devs and activists such as Gaming4JC [14][15], Megver83
[16][17], heckyel [18][19].

It means if they need help, we are available to help them, in short it
is help their development in another fully free distro where they are
maintainers and otherwise they helps us too because they are in our team
too, so our 6th amendment from our social contract is working well.

-

[0]:https://www.hyperbola.info/news/the-mailing-lists-are-functional-now/
[1]:https://www.hyperbola.info/news/hypertask-and-hyperforum-are-functional-now/
[2]:https://www.hyperbola.info/news/end-of-systemd-support/
[3]:https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:hyperbola_packaging_guidelines
[4]:https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/snowden-nsa-files-surveillance-revelations-decoded
[5]:https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/software/blacklist.git/plain/blacklist.txt
[6]:https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/core/any/your-freedom/
[7]:https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:hyperbola_social_contract
[8]:https://wiki.hyperbola.info/
[9]:https://repo.hyperbola.info:50012/gnu-plus-linux-libre/stable/sources/